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blackadder Gold Member Offline Posts: 1977	Re: Should taxpayer pay for private education? Reply #15 - May 7^th, 2012 at 9:44am I dont care about the propaganda or the statistics. A private school is a private school it should not receive public money. I have caught one bus in the last 23 years and maybe 4 trains but I still subsidise them. Don't know why if you say we should have user pays with private schools..
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Reply #16 - May 7^th, 2012 at 9:52am

blackadder wrote on May 7^th, 2012 at 9:44am:

I dont care about the propaganda or the statistics. A private school is a private school it should not receive public money.

I have caught one bus in the last 23 years and maybe 4 trains but I still subsidise them. Don't know why if you say we should have user pays with private schools..

We pay for the public stuff. Private stuff is privately funded. Thats what private means.

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Reply #17 - May 7^th, 2012 at 10:05am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 7^th, 2012 at 9:52am:

blackadder wrote on May 7^th, 2012 at 9:44am:

I dont care about the propaganda or the statistics. A private school is a private school it should not receive public money.

I have caught one bus in the last 23 years and maybe 4 trains but I still subsidise them. Don't know why if you say we should have user pays with private schools..

We pay for the public stuff. Private stuff is privately funded. Thats what private means.

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What about when the State Government builds a hospital and gives it to the Catholic Church to run and the Hospital refuse to do terminations there?

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Reply #19 - May 7^th, 2012 at 10:21am

blackadder wrote on May 7^th, 2012 at 10:05am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 7^th, 2012 at 9:52am:

blackadder wrote on May 7^th, 2012 at 9:44am:

I dont care about the propaganda or the statistics. A private school is a private school it should not receive public money.

I have caught one bus in the last 23 years and maybe 4 trains but I still subsidise them. Don't know why if you say we should have user pays with private schools..

We pay for the public stuff. Private stuff is privately funded. Thats what private means.

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What about when the State Government builds a hospital and gives it to the Catholic Church to run and the Hospital refuse to do terminations there?

I wouldn't like the govt giving things to a religious organisation anyway. But I addressed that earlier in the thread im sure.

Yeah I did: "It should be made to follow a state curriculum though to avoid having a country like america where students only get taught subjects "approved" by their nutter parents."

Private means private. You arent forced to go to a religious hospital though. 7th day adventists have their own hospitals. We dont interfere.

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Reply #20 - May 7^th, 2012 at 10:23am

blackadder wrote on May 7^th, 2012 at 9:07am:

It should be made to follow a state curriculum though to avoid having a country like america where students only get taught subjects "approved" by their nutter parents.

Oh dear, another dummy from the public system.

Private schools do follow the State curriculum.

Do you really think the private schools set their own HSC exams??

I didnt say they didnt. But the yanks do not. Im just saying we shouldn't bring in their system. "Dummy".

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blackadder Gold Member Offline Posts: 1977	Re: Should taxpayer pay for private education? Reply #21 - May 7^th, 2012 at 10:42am It should be made to follow a state curriculum though to avoid having a country like america where students only get taught subjects "approved" by their nutter parents. Do you not comprehend the highlighted section. It is aquote from your post.
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Reply #22 - May 7^th, 2012 at 10:46am

blackadder wrote on May 7^th, 2012 at 10:42am:

It should be made to follow a state curriculum though to avoid having a country like america where students only get taught subjects "approved" by their nutter parents.

Do you not comprehend the highlighted section. It is aquote from your post.

Yeah but taken WITH THE REST OF THE SENTENCE it says what i said it says.

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Reply #23 - May 7^th, 2012 at 10:51am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 7^th, 2012 at 10:46am:

blackadder wrote on May 7^th, 2012 at 10:42am:

It should be made to follow a state curriculum though to avoid having a country like america where students only get taught subjects "approved" by their nutter parents.

Do you not comprehend the highlighted section. It is aquote from your post.

Yeah but taken WITH THE REST OF THE SENTENCE it says what i said it says.

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Reply #24 - May 7^th, 2012 at 11:00am

Uncle Meat wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 9:25pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 9:19pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 9:12pm:

bludger wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 7:10pm:

My taxes pay for everyones children to be educated at a public school including rich peoples kids. Why should I cough up to help pay for rich peoples kids to be educated at a private school? Angry

Because it's cheaper than building more public schools.

Bullshit.

No, it's a fact.

The kids have to go to school somewhere.

If the private schools didn't exist, more public schools would have to be built.
The cost of building and maintaining public schools is much higher than the contributions given to the private schools.

No BS. All quite simple.

No it's bullshit.

Schools should be run as an essential service to the public. They should NOT be run as a business trying to extract the last cent out of the government and parents.

The money that has been doled out to private schools for decades could have been used to build more public schools.

The idea that the more money you pay the better the education is totally absurd. All kids should have the best education irrespective of socio economic background.

Just look at the Finnish school system. All publicly owned and run with the best teachers money can buy and no daggy uniforms which is just another scam to make money Sad

You definitely must be a liberal voter.

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Reply #25 - May 7^th, 2012 at 11:04am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 7^th, 2012 at 9:52am:

blackadder wrote on May 7^th, 2012 at 9:44am:

I dont care about the propaganda or the statistics. A private school is a private school it should not receive public money.

I have caught one bus in the last 23 years and maybe 4 trains but I still subsidise them. Don't know why if you say we should have user pays with private schools..

We pay for the public stuff. Private stuff is privately funded. Thats what private means.

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If they want to run it as a business then there should be no government funding for any of it !!

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blackadder Gold Member Offline Posts: 1977	Re: Should taxpayer pay for private education? Reply #26 - May 7^th, 2012 at 11:04am Nails owns a condom recycling company. That makes him an international businessman with knowledge that is far superior to us mere mortals.
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Reply #27 - May 7^th, 2012 at 11:08am

If you run a private-public education system, it should be two tier.

That's the whole of market economics - you pay for something, you get it better.

So the Government if it wishes to fund education should fund each pupil the same amount.

Then the amount you pay in private education is the difference.
It's equality - you pay everyone the same.

I don't see why tax dollars should go to one set of people and not the other.
How is that fair?

Let's give everyone the same go in life.

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LifeMasque Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 223 Gender:	Re: Should taxpayer pay for private education? Reply #28 - May 7^th, 2012 at 11:08am I have seen several articles over the years indicating that private schools receive MORE funding per student than public schools from taxes.
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blackadder Gold Member Offline Posts: 1977	Re: Should taxpayer pay for private education? Reply #29 - May 7^th, 2012 at 11:11am LifeMasque wrote on May 7^th, 2012 at 11:08am: I have seen several articles over the years indicating that private schools receive MORE funding per student than public schools from taxes. WRONG.
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Question: Should taxpayers money pay for private education ?
Yes 11 (35.5%) No 20 (64.5%) Total votes: 31 « Created by: Sir lastnail on: May 7^th, 2012 at 11:47am »