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Question: Should Women be Allowed to Fight ont he Front Lines?



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Should women be allowed to fight on the front line
May 4th, 2012 at 3:55pm
 
I dont see why not. They are people and if ppl want to fight then let them. Why should some ppl be exempt? I dont see why anyone would want to fight on the front lines @ all but thats just me. There are men who want to fight and kill and there are women who want to fight and kill. If theres pollies to die for and ppl willing to die then let them.

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Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line
Reply #1 - May 4th, 2012 at 4:14pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 3:55pm:
I dont see why not.



Nor me.  Let 'em do whatever they like.

However, you'll get the usual arguments from the conservatives:

1) They'll get their periods
2) They'll distract the male soldiers
3) They'll be too emotional
4) They'll get raped
5) They'll get pregnant
6) They'll want separate toilets
7) They're not physically capable

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Reply #2 - May 4th, 2012 at 4:15pm
 
I couldn't care less. Same attitude towards war as you SOB.
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Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line
Reply #3 - May 4th, 2012 at 4:16pm
 
No.

Back into the kitchen and raising the kids and we’d all be better off.
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Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line
Reply #4 - May 4th, 2012 at 4:42pm
 
Uncle Meat wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 4:14pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 3:55pm:
I dont see why not.



Nor me.  Let 'em do whatever they like.

However, you'll get the usual arguments from the conservatives:

1) They'll get their periods
2) They'll distract the male soldiers
3) They'll be too emotional
4) They'll get raped
5) They'll get pregnant
6) They'll want separate toilets
7) They're not physically capable

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Some of those are real problems.
Women aren't required to do the same physical tests and drills men are, so there is a problem with "equality" there. I've read numerous stories where men have had to carry women's backpack due to them not having the physical endurance to do so.

It would be interesting to see if women can face some of the conditions in trench warfare like where you all have to sh*t and piss in an open latrine. 
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Reply #5 - May 4th, 2012 at 4:47pm
 
I don't see any problem with the last one there. Women are game, army ones especially, I would imagine.

I went to a metal weapons medieval event in Armidale once, and the toilet accommodations for everyone was a single log over a trench.
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Reply #6 - May 4th, 2012 at 4:48pm
 
Uncle Meat wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 4:14pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 3:55pm:
I dont see why not.



Nor me.  Let 'em do whatever they like.

However, you'll get the usual arguments from the conservatives:

1) They'll get their periods
2) They'll distract the male soldiers
3) They'll be too emotional
4) They'll get raped
5) They'll get pregnant
6) They'll want separate toilets
7) They're not physically capable

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Amazing how you grasp the fact these issues exist, yet dismiss them with a roll of your eyes. 

But as part of female-only units, sure.  why not?
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Reply #7 - May 4th, 2012 at 4:50pm
 
...and prisons? If we take all this 'equality' business really seriously, are we going to stop segregating male and female prisoners?

It makes a mockery of "equal" rights to not desegregate the prison population.

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Reply #8 - May 4th, 2012 at 4:51pm
 
It would certainly cut down on the rampant sodomy of young men.
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Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line
Reply #9 - May 4th, 2012 at 4:52pm
 
Uncle Meat wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 4:14pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 3:55pm:
I dont see why not.



Nor me.  Let 'em do whatever they like.

However, you'll get the usual arguments from the conservatives:

1) They'll get their periods
2) They'll distract the male soldiers
3) They'll be too emotional
4) They'll get raped
5) They'll get pregnant
6) They'll want separate toilets
7) They're not physically capable

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Good points.
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Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line
Reply #10 - May 4th, 2012 at 4:58pm
 
Honky wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 4:48pm:
Amazing how you grasp the fact these issues exist, yet dismiss them with a roll of your eyes. 

But as part of female-only units, sure.  why not?



Here, this guy gives a bit more than a roll of the eyes:

http://www.mamamia.com.au/news/arguments-against-women-on-the-front-line-and-why...
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Reply #11 - May 4th, 2012 at 5:12pm
 
Uncle Meat wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 4:58pm:
Honky wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 4:48pm:
Amazing how you grasp the fact these issues exist, yet dismiss them with a roll of your eyes. 

But as part of female-only units, sure.  why not?



Here, this guy gives a bit more than a roll of the eyes:

http://www.mamamia.com.au/news/arguments-against-women-on-the-front-line-and-why...


Good one uncle meat

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Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line
Reply #12 - May 4th, 2012 at 5:17pm
 
A link to comedy routine will solve the problems of women on the front line.  Roll Eyes
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Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line
Reply #13 - May 4th, 2012 at 5:21pm
 
Uncle Meat wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 4:14pm:
1) They'll get their periods

Obviously, but how could this be a problem?

Uncle Meat wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 4:14pm:
2) They'll distract the male soldiers

Maybe the male soldiers need to be disciplined a bit better then.

Uncle Meat wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 4:14pm:
3) They'll be too emotional

Somehow I think any woman who would be too emotional wouldn't join the armed forces in the first place.

Uncle Meat wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 4:14pm:
4) They'll get raped

I have to admit that this would concern me.  Part of the process of training a soldier involves dehumanising them to a degree, which could encourage them to sexually abuse others - and, whether we like it or not, rape has been used as a tool of war.

Uncle Meat wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 4:14pm:
5) They'll get pregnant

Not by themselves they can't.

Uncle Meat wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 4:14pm:
6) They'll want separate toilets

So what?  And, on the battlefield, all you could expect would be a bit of privacy while you squat behind a bush.....

Uncle Meat wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 4:14pm:
7) They're not physically capable

Maybe if the tasks allotted involved lifting heavy weights there might be a few issues here, but nothing that couldn't be sorted out by a competent commanding officer.
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Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line
Reply #14 - May 4th, 2012 at 5:26pm
 
Uncle Meat wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 4:58pm:
Honky wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 4:48pm:
Amazing how you grasp the fact these issues exist, yet dismiss them with a roll of your eyes. 

But as part of female-only units, sure.  why not?



Here, this guy gives a bit more than a roll of the eyes:

http://www.mamamia.com.au/news/arguments-against-women-on-the-front-line-and-why...



Not very impressive. 

1. Women aren’t as strong as men!

True - does anyone dispute this?  Doesn't matter for pulling the trigger, but tends to become a problem on 30km march with full kit. 

2. Women are more likely to get raped.

I agree Thats not much of a reason, so long as she knows the risk.

3. But they’ll get their period!

mock all you like "mamamia" irrational behaviour will go a good way to getting you and your colleagues killed.

4. Islamic fighters rarely surrender to female soldiers.

Never heard this as a reaosn before.  If you have to make up reasons to debunk, just don't bother.

5. Having women in troops will ruin the ‘mateship’ in the ranks and lower morale.

yes, undoubtedly.  But could be overcome with female-only units.

6. But what if the women start up romances, or get pregnant?

groups of men tend to get disgruntled when people around them are getting laid and they're not.   And if more than one is rooting the same shiela - look out.
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