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Re: The two party system no longer works
Reply #45 - May 5^th, 2012 at 5:27pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 6:16pm:

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that link said almost nothing on the topic. I am guessing (because the story doesnt say) that to be a political party that is registered by the Electoral Commission you ahve to have 500 financial members. Been that way for some time. That is all.

That may be it - since howard. I dunno i wasnt the one making the big deal about it.

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then perhaps repeating it wasnt a great idea.

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Re: The two party system no longer works
Reply #47 - May 5^th, 2012 at 5:35pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 5:27pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 6:16pm:

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that link said almost nothing on the topic. I am guessing (because the story doesnt say) that to be a political party that is registered by the Electoral Commission you ahve to have 500 financial members. Been that way for some time. That is all.

That may be it - since howard. I dunno i wasnt the one making the big deal about it.

SOB

then perhaps repeating it wasnt a great idea.

WTF are you talking about?

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Re: The two party system no longer works
Reply #48 - May 5^th, 2012 at 5:42pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 5:40pm:

Gist wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 5:32pm:

hawil wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

You call yourself "borntorule".
Can you please tell me and others of some of your achievements, or what you have written; I,am always prepared to read other people s views.

He's a "published author". He is! Just ask him!!

I think that means he wrote a letter to the editor at the SMH and it got published.

Its on amazon and sold world-wide. and no, Im not telling you what it is.

Are you batting for borntorule; can't she do it herself.
I still do not think much of anybody, who goes about calling other people idiots.
I must admit, that I never heard of her or her books.

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Re: The two party system no longer works
Reply #49 - May 5^th, 2012 at 6:56pm

hawil wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 5:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 5:40pm:

Gist wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 5:32pm:

hawil wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

You call yourself "borntorule".
Can you please tell me and others of some of your achievements, or what you have written; I,am always prepared to read other people s views.

He's a "published author". He is! Just ask him!!

I think that means he wrote a letter to the editor at the SMH and it got published.

Its on amazon and sold world-wide. and no, Im not telling you what it is.

Are you batting for borntorule; can't she do it herself.
I still do not think much of anybody, who goes about calling other people idiots.
I must admit, that I never heard of her or her books.

Id say there are probably 5 million books of which you are unaware. several thousand of them a mullion sellers. Perhaps 'never heard of..' is not such a great criteria to rely on.

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Re: The two party system no longer works
Reply #50 - May 5^th, 2012 at 8:16pm

hawil wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 5:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 5:40pm:

Gist wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 5:32pm:

hawil wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

You call yourself "borntorule".
Can you please tell me and others of some of your achievements, or what you have written; I,am always prepared to read other people s views.

He's a "published author". He is! Just ask him!!

I think that means he wrote a letter to the editor at the SMH and it got published.

Its on amazon and sold world-wide. and no, Im not telling you what it is.

Are you batting for borntorule; can't she do it herself.
I still do not think much of anybody, who goes about calling other people idiots.
I must admit, that I never heard of her or her books.

hawil, wrongweekend and borntolose are the same person. I guess that being a born loser with no friends, it has no choice except to make up imaginary friends.

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Re: The two party system no longer works
Reply #51 - May 6^th, 2012 at 6:22pm

Gist wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 8:16pm:

hawil wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 5:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 5:40pm:

Gist wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 5:32pm:

hawil wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

You call yourself "borntorule".
Can you please tell me and others of some of your achievements, or what you have written; I,am always prepared to read other people s views.

He's a "published author". He is! Just ask him!!

I think that means he wrote a letter to the editor at the SMH and it got published.

Its on amazon and sold world-wide. and no, Im not telling you what it is.

Are you batting for borntorule; can't she do it herself.
I still do not think much of anybody, who goes about calling other people idiots.
I must admit, that I never heard of her or her books.

hawil, wrongweekend and borntolose are the same person. I guess that being a born loser with no friends, it has no choice except to make up imaginary friends.

If you are right, I,am surprised that an author of several books will go on forums like this and call people like John Pilger, or anyone else for that matter, idiots.
It does not make a good impression.
When logweekend states that there are millions of books that I never heard of, he is definitely right.

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Re: The two party system no longer works
Reply #52 - May 6^th, 2012 at 6:30pm

hawil wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 6:22pm:

Gist wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 8:16pm:

hawil wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 5:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 5:40pm:

Gist wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 5:32pm:

hawil wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

You call yourself "borntorule".
Can you please tell me and others of some of your achievements, or what you have written; I,am always prepared to read other people s views.

He's a "published author". He is! Just ask him!!

I think that means he wrote a letter to the editor at the SMH and it got published.

Its on amazon and sold world-wide. and no, Im not telling you what it is.

Are you batting for borntorule; can't she do it herself.
I still do not think much of anybody, who goes about calling other people idiots.
I must admit, that I never heard of her or her books.

hawil, wrongweekend and borntolose are the same person. I guess that being a born loser with no friends, it has no choice except to make up imaginary friends.

If you are right, I,am surprised that an author of several books will go on forums like this and call people like John Pilger, or anyone else for that matter, idiots.
It does not make a good impression.
When logweekend states that there are millions of books that I never heard of, he is definitely right.

People whose books he hasnt even read.

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Re: The two party system no longer works
Reply #53 - May 6^th, 2012 at 9:24pm

Pilger's just another left wing hypocrite and nihilist who has absolutely no practical solutions to the problems he points out.
He thinks he's morally superior by whining about America and whatever other authority figure has got his goat on a particular day. All the while provides no solutions to the human rights abuses he goes on about. And at the same time rolling in the money in his comfortable home in the West. His fellow hypocritical nihilist, Chomsky, gets thousands of dollars from universities for speaking: something like $9,000 an appearance. He has a personal fortune in the hundreds of thousands.
Funny how they think capitalism is evil then take full advantage of it.

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Re: The two party system no longer works
Reply #54 - May 7^th, 2012 at 9:15am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 9:24pm:

Pilger's just another left wing hypocrite and nihilist who has absolutely no practical solutions to the problems he points out.
He thinks he's morally superior by whining about America and whatever other authority figure has got his goat on a particular day. All the while provides no solutions to the human rights abuses he goes on about. And at the same time rolling in the money in his comfortable home in the West. His fellow hypocritical nihilist, Chomsky, gets thousands of dollars from universities for speaking: something like $9,000 an appearance. He has a personal fortune in the hundreds of thousands.
Funny how they think capitalism is evil then take full advantage of it.

I will read just about anything. Thing is if you disagree with one thing someone says it doesnt invalidate everything that person says.

Maybe I will read some pilger and in a few weeks ill come and resurrect this thread.

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Re: The two party system no longer works
Reply #55 - May 7^th, 2012 at 9:29am

The two party system no longer works

Nothing has changed.

In some ways the two party system has served us well.

Iin many ways the two party system never worked.

The people have never been willing to vote in sufficient numbers for a third party.

The Democrats had a chance till Meg committed suicide for them.

We do not have a viable third party on the horizon.

THe greens will not fill this void, while they have great value they are hated by most conservatives and seen to far too many as a one policy area group.

You can not gain sufficient numbers without having support accross the middle ground and the greens will never attract the conservative portion in this area.

I hope that I am wrong but doubt it very much.

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Reply #56 - May 7^th, 2012 at 7:22pm

hawil wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 6:22pm:

Gist wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 8:16pm:

hawil wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 5:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 5:40pm:

Gist wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 5:32pm:

hawil wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

You call yourself "borntorule".
Can you please tell me and others of some of your achievements, or what you have written; I,am always prepared to read other people s views.

He's a "published author". He is! Just ask him!!

I think that means he wrote a letter to the editor at the SMH and it got published.

Its on amazon and sold world-wide. and no, Im not telling you what it is.

Are you batting for borntorule; can't she do it herself.
I still do not think much of anybody, who goes about calling other people idiots.
I must admit, that I never heard of her or her books.

hawil, wrongweekend and borntolose are the same person. I guess that being a born loser with no friends, it has no choice except to make up imaginary friends.

If you are right, I,am surprised that an author of several books will go on forums like this and call people like John Pilger, or anyone else for that matter, idiots.
It does not make a good impression.
When logweekend states that there are millions of books that I never heard of, he is definitely right.

you repeatedly quote from pilger and the same clowns every time. have you only ever read 3 books?

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Re: The two party system no longer works
Reply #57 - May 7^th, 2012 at 7:24pm

Dnarever wrote on May 7^th, 2012 at 9:29am:

The two party system no longer works

Nothing has changed.

In some ways the two party system has served us well.

Iin many ways the two party system never worked.

The people have never been willing to vote in sufficient numbers for a third party.

The Democrats had a chance till Meg committed suicide for them.

We do not have a viable third party on the horizon.

THe greens will not fill this void, while they have great value they are hated by most conservatives and seen to far too many as a one policy area group.

You can not gain sufficient numbers without having support accross the middle ground and the greens will never attract the conservative portion in this area.

I hope that I am wrong but doubt it very much.

so in essence you are saying that there will probably never be a third real party because voters dont want one? Is that not the very ESSENCE of democracy , where the people choose their representatives?

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Re: The two party system no longer works
Reply #58 - May 7^th, 2012 at 7:26pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 7^th, 2012 at 7:24pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 7^th, 2012 at 9:29am:

The two party system no longer works

Nothing has changed.

In some ways the two party system has served us well.

Iin many ways the two party system never worked.

The people have never been willing to vote in sufficient numbers for a third party.

The Democrats had a chance till Meg committed suicide for them.

We do not have a viable third party on the horizon.

THe greens will not fill this void, while they have great value they are hated by most conservatives and seen to far too many as a one policy area group.

You can not gain sufficient numbers without having support accross the middle ground and the greens will never attract the conservative portion in this area.

I hope that I am wrong but doubt it very much.

so in essence you are saying that there will probably never be a third real party because voters dont want one? Is that not the very ESSENCE of democracy , where the people choose their representatives?

So then you do agree our system is not democratic considering that we do not choose who controls the financial system

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Re: The two party system no longer works
Reply #59 - May 7^th, 2012 at 7:45pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 7^th, 2012 at 7:24pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 7^th, 2012 at 9:29am:

The two party system no longer works

Nothing has changed.

In some ways the two party system has served us well.

Iin many ways the two party system never worked.

The people have never been willing to vote in sufficient numbers for a third party.

The Democrats had a chance till Meg committed suicide for them.

We do not have a viable third party on the horizon.

THe greens will not fill this void, while they have great value they are hated by most conservatives and seen to far too many as a one policy area group.

You can not gain sufficient numbers without having support accross the middle ground and the greens will never attract the conservative portion in this area.

I hope that I am wrong but doubt it very much.

so in essence you are saying that there will probably never be a third real party because voters dont want one? Is that not the very ESSENCE of democracy , where the people choose their representatives?

All the parties are real.

I do not see a three sided contest with all more or less equal on the horizon but it could one day happen.

At this time it looks like a popular notion but the people will not vote for it, maybe because there is no third viable option.

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