Progressiveslol feels it is much better for people to remain ignorant. It's a blessing he would like to share.

MOTR wrote on Apr 20^th, 2012 at 10:10am:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 20^th, 2012 at 11:19am:

   

 

     

MOTR wrote on Apr 20^th, 2012 at 12:04pm:


It won't do us any good: humans can't change the climate (don't confuse weather with climate).

MOTR wrote on Apr 20^th, 2012 at 12:04pm:


Quite possibly (although still not enough credible evidence to say for sure, in terms of climate).

MOTR wrote on Apr 20^th, 2012 at 12:04pm:


Nowhere near enough credible evidence to confirm that hypothesis.  And that's what AGW is: merely an hypothesis.

MOTR wrote on Apr 20^th, 2012 at 12:04pm:


Not necessarily so.  It's merely a prediction, and humans have been adapting to changing conditions for a long time now.

MOTR wrote on Apr 20^th, 2012 at 12:04pm:


Absolutely.  However, not enough evidence exists to suggest that this wolf is real.  Moreover, even if it is real (i.e. the world is warming) humans do not have the capability to change the climate.

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 20^th, 2012 at 12:24pm:


 



 

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 20^th, 2012 at 12:24pm:


Your conclusion that there is not enough evidence to support anthropogenic warming is not the conclusion of the vast bulk of climate scientists. I think it's something like 97% of published climate scientists support the AGW hypothesis. That focusses a lot of attention on the papers that don't. I'd love you to point me to the papers that you believe have stood up to rigorous analysis. I'm yet to find one that gives us an excuse to not act on the warnings that keep and keep on coming.

I'm posting a lengthy video which I hope you might take the time to watch. I apologise for it's length, but it will perhaps help you understand the position I have taken and why I believe we must act now to reduce atmospheric CO2.

Barry Bickmore is Associate Professor of Geological Sciences at Brigham Young University. His research specialties are low-temperature geochemistry and geoscience education. In this presentation, he discusses how he moved from being a climate change "skeptic" to being an outspoken advocate of mainstream climate science. He then discusses how it is that people like him can so effectively avoid the truth about climate change.

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 20^th, 2012 at 1:14pm:


Believing that smoking causes cancer is a hypothesis does not protect you from the dangers of smoking. It is a hypothesis that I believe has been proven through multiple lines of independent evidence. The physics, I believe, is indisputable.

MOTR wrote on Apr 20^th, 2012 at 1:52pm:


Bad example since "smoking causes cancer" is an outright lie put out by govts and media propaganda and climate science is an actual science which we can actually observe.

SOB

Any video that says there is not much of a debate going on or there is not as much support for the skeptic view in climate science, is obviously not worth watching. It was a bit hard to go past the 3 minute mark with the stupid points put up on the screeen. It sounded like the good Dr was looking at the world through a 5 year olds eyes.

I dont know how good this list is, but it is a start.
http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 20^th, 2012 at 2:19pm:

I don't see how it could be any clearer.

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 20^th, 2012 at 2:11pm:


The 97% figure comes from two independent studies. One study surveyed all climate scientists who have publicly signed declarations supporting or rejecting the consensus (Anderegg 2010). Another study directly asked earth scientists the following question "Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?" They found 97% of actively publishing climate scientists answered yes, 2% were unsure, only 1% said no (Doran 2009).

The reality is that there is not much debate going on. How can you ever expect to learn the truth when you turn off the moment someone offers a different perspective to your world view. Ironically, if you had continued watching the video you would have found out it specifically refers to the list you have linked in your post.

MOTR wrote on Apr 20^th, 2012 at 8:49pm:


And that's the whole problem.

AGW disciples say the science is in, and anyone who disagrees is a "denier"

The AGW hypothesis may be correct, however, at this stage it doesn't have enough credible evidence to back it up.

Therefore, we need to continue the debate.

Well if the US does not believe in climate change there is no question, it must be a hoax!

More hand me down delusion for the flock of sheep so tight no member steps out lockstep with the flock even over international distances. Cyborg sheep of BEEP BOOP.

We import so much quality thinking from that rotting right wing cesspit we might as well scoop our own brains out and have American brains implanted.

On a more serious less frothing at the mouth note it is just the short attention span of people so lucky they don't get engrossed in this rotten politics stuff.