Lets look at our Muslim and Jew members as a guide. On the one hand we have Avram who has experienced the conflict first hand and who has expressed a desire for peace, for a two state solution, and who has actually demonstrated a willingness to not respond to violence from the other side in an effort to achieve peace. On the other hand we have Falah and Abu, who are busy predicting the total destruction of Israel, who use it's imminent demise as a reason for Palestinians not to surrender in a war they lost decades ago, and who call for the mass forced migration of Israeli Jews out of the area.

Despite the obvious differences in standards, we have people like Spot and puppet who think it is people like Avram who are to blame and who cannot even acknowledge the reality of how the two different sides are approaching the conflict, even when it is right in front of them in black and white.

If they are anything to go by, it is the Muslims that are the problem. Given that the palestinian authorities could not even control their own people if they wanted to, it is hard to see peace in the near future.

■But such borders do not exist and have no basis in history, law, or fact. The only line that ever existed was the 1949 armistice demarcation line, based on the ceasefire lines of the Israeli and Arab armies pending agreement on permanent peace."

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 7:10pm:


Have you stopped the building? Have you released the prisoners? Are you participating in the peace talks?

SOB

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Obviously they do exist and somebody is trying to ignore them. Israel knows fulkl well what is meant but 1967 borders.



SOB

Gist wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 1:48pm:


You think the Nazis were merely taking an eye for an eye? Hitler was much closer to Muhammed. Muhammed had to slaughter a lot of Jews before they finally learnt to welcome him with open arms.

GAZA CITY -- Fifty international aid groups and UN agencies urged Israel Thursday to open Gaza's borders, saying its border blockade violates international law and indiscriminately harms Gaza's 1.6 million people.

The appeal was issued on the fifth anniversary of the imposition of the blockade, triggered by the violent takeover of Gaza by the Islamic militant Hamas in June 2007.

Two years ago, Israel started allowing imports of most consumer goods, but continues to ban virtually all Gaza exports and travel through Israeli crossings.

Israel has said the blockade is meant to prevent Hamas from building up its military arsenal and Gaza militants from carrying out attacks on Israel. The Hamas founding charter calls for the destruction of Israel and over its 25-year history the group has killed hundreds of Israelis in shootings and bombings.

International aid agencies say, however, that the blockade mainly punishes ordinary Gazans by crippling the territory's economy, forcing foreign donors to spend money on humanitarian relief instead of investing in the economy.

"What Gaza needs is real development, but because of the blockade we are obliged to concentrate on humanitarian work," Filippo Grandi, head of the UN Relief and Works Agency, told reporters in Gaza yesterday. Grandi's group is Gaza's biggest foreign agency, supporting some 1.2 million refugees and their descendants in the territory.

Spending on emergency needs, such as food and medicine, does not address fundamental problems, Grandi said. "In fact, it's a waste of money, but a waste we are obliged to make because of the blockade," he added.

He said his agency is running low on funds and, among other things, had to cancel its popular summer camps for tens of thousands of Gaza children.

In its six-decade history in Gaza, the agency's main roles have been supplying refugees with basic food products and operating schools.

One-third of Gaza's labor force is unemployed, and exports are at only 5 percent of what they were in 2007, he said.

The easing of import restrictions spurred some growth, but mainly because Gaza started from a very low baseline, Grandi said, noting that the per capita GDP in 2011 remained at 10 percent below the 2005 level.

About 60 percent of Gazans are under 18 and youth unemployment stands at 51 percent, according to UN figures.

Spot how would you suggest that Israel handle Hamas?

Yadda wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 2:20pm:




You've become what you hate. You are arguing that Hitler was quite justified in exterminating Jews. That his death camps were necessary. Do you also wear the swaztika? You may as well.