Joint letter to NASA Administrator blasts agency’s policy of ignoring empirical evidence

Looks like another GISS miss, more than a few people are getting fed up with Jim Hansen and Gavin Schmidt and their climate shenanigans. Some very prominent NASA voices speak out in a scathing letter to current NASA administrator Charles Bolden, Jr.. When Chris Kraft, the man who presided over NASA’s finest hour, and the engineering miracle of saving Apollo 13 speaks, people listen

Former NASA scientists, astronauts admonish agency on climate change position

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Contact: Blanquita Cullum 703-307-9510 bqview at mac.com

49 former NASA scientists and astronauts sent a letter to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden last week admonishing the agency for it’s role in advocating a high degree of certainty that man-made CO2 is a major cause of climate change

while neglecting empirical evidence

that calls the theory into question.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/10/hansen-and-schmidt-of-nasa-giss-under-fire...

(Attached signatures)

CC: Mr. John Grunsfeld, Associate Administrator for Science

CC: Ass Mr. Chris Scolese, Director, Goddard Space Flight Center

Ref: Letter to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden, dated 3-26-12, regarding a request for NASA to refrain from making unsubstantiated claims that human produced CO2 is having a catastrophic impact on climate change.

/s/ Jack Barneburg, Jack – JSC, Space Shuttle Structures, Engineering Directorate, 34 years

/s/ Larry Bell – JSC, Mgr. Crew Systems Div., Engineering Directorate, 32 years

/s/ Dr. Donald Bogard – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 41 years

/s/ Jerry C. Bostick – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 23 years

/s/ Dr. Phillip K. Chapman – JSC, Scientist – astronaut, 5 years

/s/ Michael F. Collins, JSC, Chief, Flight Design and Dynamics Division, MOD, 41 years

/s/ Dr. Kenneth Cox – JSC, Chief Flight Dynamics Div., Engr. Directorate, 40 years

/s/ Walter Cunningham – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 7, 8 years

/s/ Dr. Donald M. Curry – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Leading Edge, Thermal Protection Sys., Engr. Dir., 44 years

/s/ Leroy Day – Hdq. Deputy Director, Space Shuttle Program, 19 years

/s/ Dr. Henry P. Decell, Jr. – JSC, Chief, Theory & Analysis Office, 5 years

/s/Charles F. Deiterich – JSC, Mgr., Flight Operations Integration, MOD, 30 years

/s/ Dr. Harold Doiron – JSC, Chairman, Shuttle Pogo Prevention Panel, 16 years

/s/ Charles Duke – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 16, 10 years

/s/ Anita Gale

/s/ Grace Germany – JSC, Program Analyst, 35 years

/s/ Ed Gibson – JSC, Astronaut Skylab 4, 14 years

/s/ Richard Gordon – JSC, Astronaut, Gemini Xi, Apollo 12, 9 years

/s/ Gerald C. Griffin – JSC, Apollo Flight Director, and Director of Johnson Space Center, 22 years

/s/ Thomas M. Grubbs – JSC, Chief, Aircraft Maintenance and Engineering Branch, 31 years

/s/ Thomas J. Harmon

/s/ David W. Heath – JSC, Reentry Specialist, MOD, 30 years

/s/ Miguel A. Hernandez, Jr. – JSC, Flight crew training and operations, 3 years

/s/ James R. Roundtree – JSC Branch Chief, 26 years

/s/ Enoch Jones – JSC, Mgr. SE&I, Shuttle Program Office, 26 years

/s/ Dr. Joseph Kerwin – JSC, Astronaut, Skylab 2, Director of Space and Life Sciences, 22 years

/s/ Jack Knight – JSC, Chief, Advanced Operations and Development Division, MOD, 40 years

/s/ Dr. Christopher C. Kraft – JSC, Apollo Flight Director and Director of Johnson Space Center, 24 years

/s/ Paul C. Kramer – JSC, Ass.t for Planning Aeroscience and Flight Mechanics Div., Egr. Dir., 34 years

/s/ Alex (Skip) Larsen

/s/ Dr. Lubert Leger – JSC, Ass’t. Chief Materials Division, Engr. Directorate, 30 years

/s/ Dr. Humbolt C. Mandell – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Program Control and Advance Programs, 40 years

/s/ Donald K. McCutchen – JSC, Project Engineer – Space Shuttle and ISS Program Offices, 33 years

/s/ Thomas L. (Tom) Moser – Hdq. Dep. Assoc. Admin. & Director, Space Station Program, 28 years

/s/ Dr. George Mueller – Hdq., Assoc. Adm., Office of Space Flight, 6 years

/s/ Tom Ohesorge

/s/ James Peacock – JSC, Apollo and Shuttle Program Office, 21 years

/s/ Richard McFarland – JSC, Mgr. Motion Simulators, 28 years

/s/ Joseph E. Rogers – JSC, Chief, Structures and Dynamics Branch, Engr. Directorate,40 years

/s/ Bernard J. Rosenbaum – JSC, Chief Engineer, Propulsion and Power Division, Engr. Dir., 48 years

/s/ Dr. Harrison (Jack) Schmitt – JSC, Astronaut Apollo 17, 10 years

/s/ Gerard C. Shows – JSC, Asst. Manager, Quality Assurance, 30 years

/s/ Kenneth Suit – JSC, Ass’t Mgr., Systems Integration, Space Shuttle, 37 years

/s/ Robert F. Thompson – JSC, Program Manager, Space Shuttle, 44 years/s/ Frank Van Renesselaer – Hdq., Mgr. Shuttle Solid Rocket Boosters, 15 years

/s/ Dr. James Visentine – JSC Materials Branch, Engineering Directorate, 30 years

/s/ Manfred (Dutch) von Ehrenfried – JSC, Flight Controller; Mercury, Gemini & Apollo, MOD, 10 years

/s/ George Weisskopf – JSC, Avionics Systems Division, Engineering Dir., 40 years

/s/ Al Worden – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 15, 9 years

/s/ Thomas (Tom) Wysmuller – JSC, Meteorologist, 5 years

It's not rocket science, it's climate science.

Two questions.

1. How many people work or have worked at NASA.

2. Of the 1,000 years of combined professional experience that is represented by this list, how many hours were spent on climate research.

NASA Chief Scientist Waleed Abdalati has issued a response. Essentially saying we are happy to discuss the science, it's a shame you have nothing useful to contribute.


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Seems to be offering the usual climate denier canards. How about when it puts up a legitimate peer reviewed paper you link it here.

You mean loonies like Wolfgang Wagner, editor-in-chief of the journal Remote Sensing, who resigned over the publication of a fundamentally flawed paper contributed by Spencer.

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http://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/3/9/2002/pdf

Sounds like a grounded and principled man to me.

I think these old farts from NASA who want to blast off into Heaven and leave a Hell behind for the rest of us with their lack of 'inner' understanding for the planet they live upon, prefer to promote guys like It_is_the_Light wackos to debunk the threat to our Environment and planet.

Nuclear Holocaust was a very real threat that nearly happened.
The Pollution and over-use of our natural resources is also a very real threat that 'can' happen.

I think NASA should just stick with what it knows and that includes the fact that 'Science' doesn't know everything.

I metaphorically describe the threats of Nuclear Warfare and Pollution as bashing your pregnant wife while allowing her to be a junkie alcoholic.

...humanity can die too you know.

Here is a fairly brutal analysis of the article to which progs is referring.

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http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/07/29/282656/climate-scientists-blow-gapin...

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:33pm:


No, mate. I clearly asked if you would like to start with Dessler 2011. I even kindly provided you with a video of the key findings, so I'm not sure how you missed it.

I foolishly thought you may have some interest in what Spencer's peers actually thought about his last paper.

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MOTR wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 7:37am:

So that is your answer to not showing peer-review when you hypocritically stated that I should.

As far as going through the gatekeeper crap Spencer cops, you can do better research or just be one of the mob. I dont care to tell the truth.

MOTR wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 7:54am:

Sure does and Spencer schooled him. I take it you dont remember that little gatekeeping exercise.

MOTR wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 8:20am:

Go find the information yourself seen as you want to be a smart A. We were talking Spencer and Dessler, not Watts who by the way has done more to fix the crappy land based temperature stations than any pseudo climate scientist that relied on how bad their are/were.

MOTR wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 8:55am:

Good to see Watts knows and can use the word schooled. I am a bit surprised he did not come to me first and ask permission before using it though.

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:07am:


If these are your own conclusions, you can enlighten me as to why Spencer "schooled" Dessler.

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 19^th, 2012 at 11:48pm:

MOTR wrote on Apr 20^th, 2012 at 7:38am:

As this thread is about the NASA employees, what I got is whatever comes along.