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Re: Let's talk about Indonesia, East Timor and Balibo
Reply #45 - Apr 8th, 2012 at 10:13am
 
red baron wrote on Apr 7th, 2012 at 3:11pm:
Hey falah....I know you like to post. But buddy...this is about Indonesia...INDONESIA...get it?

Not freaking the Middle East which I know you like to bang on about...BUT INDONESIA...GET IT? 

I..N...D..O..N..E...S...I..A


I lived in I..N..D..O..N..E..S..I..A for nearly two years, and I can tell you that most Indonesians love Australians.

I personally got invited to have lunch with a government minister in his house solely on the basis of being an Australian.

The idea that there will be a war between Australia and Indonesia is far-fetched. I don't think that they are really that pissed off about Schappelle Corby smuggling marijuana into Bali.

There are only two countries at the moment with the ability to invade Australia - China and the US.
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Reply #46 - Apr 8th, 2012 at 1:39pm
 
And did you assure him of the harmony in multi-cultural relations between religions in Oz and Islamic freedoms in this tolerant democracy?
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Reply #47 - Apr 8th, 2012 at 2:09pm
 
No. I don't believe that the number of mosques that have suffered arson and shooting attacks in Australia came up in our conversations.

Do you think I should have mentioned it?
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Reply #48 - Apr 8th, 2012 at 2:27pm
 
Google search for [2012 attack arson] shows 1 attack on : synagogue; mosque; and Hindu temple, on 2 pages of search for each. There may well be more, but evidently the ratio is equal for each religion. The attacks are rare and treated with equal disapproval. Do you disapprove?
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Reply #49 - Apr 8th, 2012 at 6:58pm
 
chimera wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 2:27pm:
Google search for [2012 attack arson] shows 1 attack on : synagogue; mosque; and Hindu temple, on 2 pages of search for each. There may well be more, but evidently the ratio is equal for each religion. The attacks are rare and treated with equal disapproval. Do you disapprove?


So as long as Australian persecute all minorities equally, shouldn't complain? Is that your gist?


     
Firebugs threaten mosque attacks


Arsonists who firebombed a Melbourne mosque overnight have threatened further attacks on Islamic sites, community leaders said today.

The arsonists vandalised the Umma Islamic Centre in East Doncaster with anti-Islamic slogans and left threatening notes before setting the mosque alight about 4.45am (AEST), centre spokesman Noor Dean said.

The attack, which caused minor damage to the centre, was a backlash against the Islamic community in response to the Bali bombings last Saturday, he said.

The Melbourne firebombing follows a vandal attack on a school and the home of a Muslim cleric in Sydney on Tuesday...

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/10/17/1034561262558.html


Mosque firebombed in Australia


SYDNEY, Australia -- A mosque was firebombed in Australia overnight as race hate against Muslims simmered...

Police in the eastern state of Queensland said two Molotov cocktails were thrown at the mosque in the city of Brisbane...

Police were looking for a male caucasian who was seen in a car outside the mosque at the time...

http://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/auspac/09/13/attack.australia.muslims/...



Australian Muslims attacked


Australian authorities have stepped up security around mosques and Islamic schools after a series of assaults on Muslims.

A mosque in the eastern city of Brisbane was destroyed by suspected arson at the weekend in apparent retaliation for the US terror attacks.

Other mosques have been daubed with anti-Muslim graffitti and there have also been reports of verbal and physical attacks on Muslims.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1560639.stm

Judge urges tougher sentences for race crimes


December 11 2002

Legislation should be changed to allow tougher sentences to be imposed for racially motivated crimes, a judge said yesterday.

District Court Judge Manus Boyce was sentencing Terence George Hanlon, 24, for the arson of the Kuraby Mosque on Brisbane's southside on September 22 last year...Hanlon had pleaded not guilty, but was convicted by a jury in October.

Judge Boyce, sentencing Hanlon to six years' jail with no recommendation for parole, said Queensland should follow the example of England and adopt tougher penalties if an attack was motivated by racial hatred.

"Australia prides itself on being fair, just and tolerant. Racial intolerance is a threat to the maintenance of a safe and decent society," Judge Boyce told Hanlon. "I urge that the Queensland Criminal Code be amended to provide for more severe sentences for attacks that are racially motivated. The fact that a crime is racially motivated should be a serious circumstance of aggravation."

Hanlon had told his girlfriend just hours before the fire that he wanted the mosque burnt down, and had yelled out "let the war begin" to a woman passing by the mosque.

One week later Hanlon told a friend "we should nuke them all", and displayed great glee at the burning of the mosque, the judge said. The mosque was uninsured and suffered $113,000 damage.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/12/10/1039379840173.html

Man sentenced for mosque attack


A 24-year-old man with links to a national extremist group has been given a suspended prison sentence for an attack on a Perth mosque earlier this year.

Jacob Marshall Holt and 25-year-old Bradley Neil Trappitt fired three shots into the roof of the Canning Mosque in Queens Park in February.

The men are alleged to be members of Combat 18, which is an international neo-Nazi organisation.

Holt pleaded guilty to the attack and was sentenced to seven months jail, suspended for 12 months.

Trappit has also pleaded guilty and will be sentenced in August.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-07-30/man-sentenced-for-mosque-attack/926048


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Reply #50 - Apr 8th, 2012 at 7:32pm
 
So that's about 5 in 11 years.
I said they're rare and equally disapproved. Probably about similar to the Indonesian experience of such crimes.
Do you disapprove of all these attacks?
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Reply #51 - Apr 8th, 2012 at 11:00pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 6th, 2012 at 6:37pm:
MOTR wrote on Apr 6th, 2012 at 5:43pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 6th, 2012 at 5:11pm:
Indonesia is roughly the 18th strongest military in the world, Australia 24th.

Compare the two militaries here:

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison.asp


Focus on the middle of the list and it's pretty obvious there is no real threat from Indonesia.

They could smash us in a ground invasion tho, wouldnt be too hard for them to take a northern town like Darwin.




Taking it wouldn't be hard.
Holding it would be impossible.

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Reply #52 - Apr 8th, 2012 at 11:02pm
 
falah wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 6:58pm:
     
Firebugs threaten mosque attacks

Mosque firebombed in Australia


Australian Muslims attacked


Judge urges tougher sentences for race crimes


Man sentenced for mosque attack




Muslims are being loved.
The Muslim way. (The Leb way, dare I say it).

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Reply #53 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 11:47am
 
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Let's talk INDONESIA and its THREAT TO AUSTRALIA.


I would hate to be a right wing conservative and live in a state of constant fear and paranoia. It seems their whole ideology is based on spreading hate and fear of anything that isnt a WASP.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #54 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 12:03pm
 
I'm an extreme left-field commo plastic recycler. Indonesia makes me paranoid which says something.
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Reply #55 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 12:25pm
 
chimera wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 12:03pm:
I'm an extreme left-field commo plastic recycler. Indonesia makes me paranoid which says something.


...and Alan Jones is a tree-hugging hippie.
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Reply #56 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 3:40pm
 
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what's your opinion about attacks on synagogues?
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Reply #57 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 4:11pm
 
I am rolling around on the floor laughing at your last comment falah, Alan Jones a tree hugging hippie...mate you weren't sucking the pipe when you wrote that were you?
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