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Reply #15 - Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:51am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:48am:

____ wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:46am:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:35am:

____ wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:18am:

Yet when asked how is Bob Brown dishonest, the Regressives run for the hills.

meanwhile, the full address

Bob Brown delivers the 3rd annual Green Oration
23 Mar | General
The full text of Bob's speech is below:

http://greensmps.org.au/content/news-stories/bob-brown-delivers-3rd-annual-green...

Unlike the old parties, Greens have long term aims for the planet besides destroying in via greed.

then why dont YOU start a poll 'Is Bob Brown dishonest?' or is the outcome too distasteful for you? I see you ahve NEVER asked that question.

Longest serving leader and no lies.

Thats why Greens core support is solid.
Green supporters don't like being lied to.

What about his ultimatum to Gillard that forced her to break her promise? Clearly, promises mean little if nothing to him.

Ditto to the last Post, Greens had already sided via Adam stating he sided with Labor rather than Liberal.

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Reply #16 - Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:52am

____ wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:50am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:44am:

I sure as hell don't trust Gillard. Neither do I trust Brown. Why? He knew very well that Gillard made an iron-clad promise NOT to introduce a carbon tax. Yet he saw the hung parliament as an opportunity to blackmail the gullible Gillard into breaking her promise. Clearly, promises mean little to him.

Incorrect.

Greens MP had stated to the Melbourne electorate that he would support Labor if required, prior to the election.

After the result, Labor new Greens were going to support them.

Greens had no bargaining so did not have leverage.

If you don't believe me, search for yourself.

Part of the agreement that Gillard signed with Brown to win office following a hung parliament result was that she introduce a carbon tax by a specific date - DESPITE having promised not to do so!

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Reply #17 - Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:56am

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:51am:

Have a look at the dishonesty of greens_slime.

The original subject question is "who do you trust"

Then the poll question is "Who is the most dishonest politician"

You are a BLIPPEN dishonest little shi.

Was it on purpose, sure it was.

Do you trust the most dishonest person ... who do you trust?

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Reply #18 - Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:57am

____ wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:46am:

Longest serving leader and no lies.

Thats why Greens core support is solid.
Green supporters don't like being lied to.

Except when it comes to protecting the environment, that you are more than happy to lie about. I told you we Queenslanders never forget and rarely forgive.

As for being rock solid, the QLD election begs to differ.

But since you can't actually recognise a lie when you hear it or tell it, you will continue to post this sort of crap.

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Reply #19 - Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:59am

____ wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:46am:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:35am:

____ wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:18am:

Yet when asked how is Bob Brown dishonest, the Regressives run for the hills.

meanwhile, the full address

Bob Brown delivers the 3rd annual Green Oration
23 Mar | General
The full text of Bob's speech is below:

http://greensmps.org.au/content/news-stories/bob-brown-delivers-3rd-annual-green...

Unlike the old parties, Greens have long term aims for the planet besides destroying in via greed.

then why dont YOU start a poll 'Is Bob Brown dishonest?' or is the outcome too distasteful for you? I see you ahve NEVER asked that question.

Longest serving leader and no lies.

Thats why Greens core support is solid.
Green supporters don't like being lied to.

Who cares if half a dozen or so out of every hundred people think Back Door Bob and his party are the bees knees. The undenialable truth is that the rest of the population DON'T.

They've seen how he plays politics and they don't like it. Why would they trust the leader of a secretive party?

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Reply #20 - Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:02am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:52am:

____ wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:50am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:44am:

I sure as hell don't trust Gillard. Neither do I trust Brown. Why? He knew very well that Gillard made an iron-clad promise NOT to introduce a carbon tax. Yet he saw the hung parliament as an opportunity to blackmail the gullible Gillard into breaking her promise. Clearly, promises mean little to him.

Incorrect.

Greens MP had stated to the Melbourne electorate that he would support Labor if required, prior to the election.

After the result, Labor new Greens were going to support them.

Greens had no bargaining so did not have leverage.

If you don't believe me, search for yourself.

Part of the agreement that Gillard signed with Brown to win office following a hung parliament result was that she introduce a carbon tax by a specific date - DESPITE having promised not to do so!

So this is Gillard's issue. not the Greens.

Stop treating Gillard and Abbott as victims of being too stupid in knowing what they do.

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Reply #21 - Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:04am

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:57am:

____ wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:46am:

Longest serving leader and no lies.

Thats why Greens core support is solid.
Green supporters don't like being lied to.

Except when it comes to protecting the environment, that you are more than happy to lie about. I told you we Queenslanders never forget and rarely forgive.

As for being rock solid, the QLD election begs to differ.

But since you can't actually recognise a lie when you hear it or tell it, you will continue to post this sort of crap.

Bob Brown didn't lie.

The policy was a Labor policy and Greens did not preference the Qld Labor candidate in that seat because they did not support that policy.

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Reply #22 - Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:07am

Guildford wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:59am:

____ wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:46am:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:35am:

____ wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:18am:

Yet when asked how is Bob Brown dishonest, the Regressives run for the hills.

meanwhile, the full address

Bob Brown delivers the 3rd annual Green Oration
23 Mar | General
The full text of Bob's speech is below:

http://greensmps.org.au/content/news-stories/bob-brown-delivers-3rd-annual-green...

Unlike the old parties, Greens have long term aims for the planet besides destroying in via greed.

then why dont YOU start a poll 'Is Bob Brown dishonest?' or is the outcome too distasteful for you? I see you ahve NEVER asked that question.

Longest serving leader and no lies.

Thats why Greens core support is solid.
Green supporters don't like being lied to.

Who cares if half a dozen or so out of every hundred people think Back Door Bob and his party are the bees knees. The undenialable truth is that the rest of the population DON'T.

They've seen how he plays politics and they don't like it. Why would they trust the leader of a secretive party?

Because he doesn't lie and 13% of Australians that support the Greens via their primary vote don't desire to be lied to.

Why do Labor and Liberal voters like being lied to.

Do they have suck a low opinion of themselves that they think they don't deserve honesty from their politicians.

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Reply #23 - Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:08am

____ wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:02am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:52am:

____ wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:50am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:44am:

I sure as hell don't trust Gillard. Neither do I trust Brown. Why? He knew very well that Gillard made an iron-clad promise NOT to introduce a carbon tax. Yet he saw the hung parliament as an opportunity to blackmail the gullible Gillard into breaking her promise. Clearly, promises mean little to him.

Incorrect.

Greens MP had stated to the Melbourne electorate that he would support Labor if required, prior to the election.

After the result, Labor new Greens were going to support them.

Greens had no bargaining so did not have leverage.

If you don't believe me, search for yourself.

Part of the agreement that Gillard signed with Brown to win office following a hung parliament result was that she introduce a carbon tax by a specific date - DESPITE having promised not to do so!

So this is Gillard's issue. not the Greens.

Stop treating Gillard and Abbott as victims of being too stupid in knowing what they do.

No, if Brown had an ounce of integrity in him he'd not have demanded a carbon tax in the knowledge that Gillard had promised not to introduce one prior to the election.

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Kenny New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13	Re: Who Do You Trust Reply #24 - Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:10am You are living in a lala land and you lot should be spray with agent orange
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 29369 Gender:	Re: Who Do You Trust Reply #25 - Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:11am Kenny wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:10am: You are living in a lala land and you lot should be spray with agent orange You're referring to the Greenies, correct?
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Reply #26 - Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:14am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:08am:

____ wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:02am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:52am:

____ wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:50am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:44am:

I sure as hell don't trust Gillard. Neither do I trust Brown. Why? He knew very well that Gillard made an iron-clad promise NOT to introduce a carbon tax. Yet he saw the hung parliament as an opportunity to blackmail the gullible Gillard into breaking her promise. Clearly, promises mean little to him.

Incorrect.

Greens MP had stated to the Melbourne electorate that he would support Labor if required, prior to the election.

After the result, Labor new Greens were going to support them.

Greens had no bargaining so did not have leverage.

If you don't believe me, search for yourself.

Part of the agreement that Gillard signed with Brown to win office following a hung parliament result was that she introduce a carbon tax by a specific date - DESPITE having promised not to do so!

So this is Gillard's issue. not the Greens.

Stop treating Gillard and Abbott as victims of being too stupid in knowing what they do.

No, if Brown had an ounce of integrity in him he'd not have demanded a carbon tax in the knowledge that Gillard had promised not to introduce one prior to the election.

You are so use to voting for a dishonest politician, you expect everyone else to be as low as you.

Greens have had a policy of carbon pricing right through the election campaign. Greens, unlike the old parties, don't sell out and don't sell out their voters.

Greens are the honest party.

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Reply #27 - Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:15am

____ wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:04am:

Bob Brown didn't lie.

The policy was a Labor policy and Greens did not preference the Qld Labor candidate in that seat because they did not support that policy.

See, this is what is known as a lie of omission.

1. Labor will never ever have any chance of winning that seat, greens support was irrelevant.

2. Greens supported labor in 14 marginal seats

3. Without greens support labor would have never won government

4. The LNP were always against labor on the Mary valley dam and offered to side with the greens to prevent this environmental disaster.

5. The greens could have supported the protection of the Mary valley they actively chose not to.

You are lying scum of the highest order and that's why you lost support in an election where you should have gained massively from labor.

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Reply #28 - Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:15am

____ wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:14am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:08am:

____ wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:02am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:52am:

____ wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:50am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:44am:

I sure as hell don't trust Gillard. Neither do I trust Brown. Why? He knew very well that Gillard made an iron-clad promise NOT to introduce a carbon tax. Yet he saw the hung parliament as an opportunity to blackmail the gullible Gillard into breaking her promise. Clearly, promises mean little to him.

Incorrect.

Greens MP had stated to the Melbourne electorate that he would support Labor if required, prior to the election.

After the result, Labor new Greens were going to support them.

Greens had no bargaining so did not have leverage.

If you don't believe me, search for yourself.

Part of the agreement that Gillard signed with Brown to win office following a hung parliament result was that she introduce a carbon tax by a specific date - DESPITE having promised not to do so!

So this is Gillard's issue. not the Greens.

Stop treating Gillard and Abbott as victims of being too stupid in knowing what they do.

No, if Brown had an ounce of integrity in him he'd not have demanded a carbon tax in the knowledge that Gillard had promised not to introduce one prior to the election.

You are so use to voting for a dishonest politician, you expect everyone else to be as low as you.

Greens have had a policy of carbon pricing right through the election campaign. Greens, unlike the old parties, don't sell out and don't sell out their voters.

Greens are the honest party.

Right, you keep on believing that tripe if you must. There, there. Cheesy

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Who Do You Trust Reply #29 - Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:16am Kenny wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:10am: You are living in a lala land and you lot should be spray with agent orange Honesty in the Greens makes the old parties look even worse?
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