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ACTU suspend HSU
Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:24pm

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/13355563/actu-votes-to-suspend-hsu/

The ACTU says its decision to suspend the Health Services Union (HSU) reinforces its "zero tolerance" stance on corruption but the embattled union's members should not be disadvantaged by the move.

ACTU secretary Jeff Lawrence said the executive voted overwhelmingly to suspend the HSU at a meeting in Melbourne on Thursday until the union can resolve issues of governance and financial management.

The HSU, which represents 77,000 aged care and health sector workers, has been the subject of two Fair Work Australia investigations into workplace law breaches and financial mismanagement.

It is also facing police probes in NSW and Victoria and an independent investigation, instigated by concerned HSU officials, by former anti-corruption boss Ian Temby QC.

"(The suspension) restates our zero tolerance for corruption and our commitment to transparent and accountable use of members' funds'" Mr Lawrence told reporters in Melbourne.

"We make no suggestion of guilt with respect to any individuals associated and we recognise the work that's happened particularly within the HSU national office to address issues.

"But the executive was of the view overwhelmingly that it was important for us to make a clear statement and has therefore suspended the HSU as an affiliated union effective immediately."

Mr Lawrence said the decision effectively meant the HSU would not be represented at the ACTU's highest representative bodies, including the executive and ACTU Congress to be held in May.

He also said the ACTU executive would monitor the situation.

"If and when the HSU as a whole is able to demonstrate that it's addressed these issues and that it's got a plan for the future of the union and the executive, we'll reconsider this matter."

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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: ACTU suspend HSU Reply #1 - Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:27pm What corruption? Apparently there wasn't any by fairwork.
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: ACTU suspend HSU Reply #2 - Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:31pm Wow..you fellas are suddenly concerned about union members. If Abbott is to impatient to wait until the next election to claim his birthright then he should take some Valium and have a good lie down for 18mths.
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Re: ACTU suspend HSU
Reply #3 - Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:36pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:31pm:

Wow..you fellas are suddenly concerned about union members.
If Abbott is to impatient to wait until the next election to claim his birthright then he should take some Valium and have a good lie down for 18mths.

you might get some credibility if you could address the reason HSU have been suspended rather than attack everyone else.

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Reply #4 - Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:44pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:36pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:31pm:

Wow..you fellas are suddenly concerned about union members.
If Abbott is to impatient to wait until the next election to claim his birthright then he should take some Valium and have a good lie down for 18mths.

you might get some credibility if you could address the reason HSU have been suspended rather than attack everyone else.

Why would I care..Im not a member of the HSU and Im guessing none of you are either.
Its up to the members to sort their own crap out and I doubt Abbott gives a toss about any of them. If there was more than 1 seat between him and his birthright there wouldn't even be a murmur about it from the coalition.
Abbott..a friend of the average union member...give me a break.

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Re: ACTU suspend HSU
Reply #5 - Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:36pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:44pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:36pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:31pm:

Wow..you fellas are suddenly concerned about union members.
If Abbott is to impatient to wait until the next election to claim his birthright then he should take some Valium and have a good lie down for 18mths.

you might get some credibility if you could address the reason HSU have been suspended rather than attack everyone else.

Why would I care..Im not a member of the HSU and Im guessing none of you are either.
Its up to the members to sort their own crap out and I doubt Abbott gives a toss about any of them. If there was more than 1 seat between him and his birthright there wouldn't even be a murmur about it from the coalition.
Abbott..a friend of the average union member...give me a break.

given the way the ALP and ACTU have had to be dragged kicking and screaming to this point, Id say Abbott is a far better friend to them than the ALP have been.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: ACTU suspend HSU
Reply #6 - Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:43pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:36pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:44pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:36pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:31pm:

Wow..you fellas are suddenly concerned about union members.
If Abbott is to impatient to wait until the next election to claim his birthright then he should take some Valium and have a good lie down for 18mths.

you might get some credibility if you could address the reason HSU have been suspended rather than attack everyone else.

Why would I care..Im not a member of the HSU and Im guessing none of you are either.
Its up to the members to sort their own crap out and I doubt Abbott gives a toss about any of them. If there was more than 1 seat between him and his birthright there wouldn't even be a murmur about it from the coalition.
Abbott..a friend of the average union member...give me a break.

given the way the ALP and ACTU have had to be dragged kicking and screaming to this point, Id say Abbott is a far better friend to them than the ALP have been.

The ALP is no friend of union members either..both parties are playing a pathetic political game at the expense of a group of low paid union members.
Both Abbott and Gillard are dogs.

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Reply #7 - Apr 5^th, 2012 at 7:31pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:43pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:36pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:44pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:36pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:31pm:

Wow..you fellas are suddenly concerned about union members.
If Abbott is to impatient to wait until the next election to claim his birthright then he should take some Valium and have a good lie down for 18mths.

you might get some credibility if you could address the reason HSU have been suspended rather than attack everyone else.

Why would I care..Im not a member of the HSU and Im guessing none of you are either.
Its up to the members to sort their own crap out and I doubt Abbott gives a toss about any of them. If there was more than 1 seat between him and his birthright there wouldn't even be a murmur about it from the coalition.
Abbott..a friend of the average union member...give me a break.

given the way the ALP and ACTU have had to be dragged kicking and screaming to this point, Id say Abbott is a far better friend to them than the ALP have been.

The ALP is no friend of union members either..both parties are playing a pathetic political game at the expense of a group of low paid union members.
Both Abbott and Gillard are dogs.

ah!!! the usual endgame for losers. 'they asre all the same'. Expect to be hearing that a LOT from former labor voters in the next little while!

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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tonegunman1 Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 427	Re: ACTU suspend HSU Reply #8 - Apr 5^th, 2012 at 7:39pm In any case it's a case of closing prostitutes legs after Thompson has shot through. But apparently he is still a member...
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Re: ACTU suspend HSU
Reply #9 - Apr 5^th, 2012 at 7:41pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:44pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:36pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:31pm:

Wow..you fellas are suddenly concerned about union members.
If Abbott is to impatient to wait until the next election to claim his birthright then he should take some Valium and have a good lie down for 18mths.

you might get some credibility if you could address the reason HSU have been suspended rather than attack everyone else.

Why would I care..Im not a member of the HSU and Im guessing none of you are either.
Its up to the members to sort their own crap out and I doubt Abbott gives a toss about any of them. If there was more than 1 seat between him and his birthright there wouldn't even be a murmur about it from the coalition.
Abbott..a friend of the average union member...give me a break.

the oh so caring lefty...what a joke..

reading these pages over time its only ever been a righty that has shown one ounce of concern about these low paid workers....dont forget the hospitals would close without them..

at least the ACTU is doing something sorry its the members though they are still paying dues into this shonky bloody union and we can see how much FAIRWORK or the govt cares about that cant we???

its corruption and stealing but that doesnt bother you does it adel..just like the rest of the lefties on here..

not my problem...lets talk about the GST..

I wondered why THOMO appeared to be so chipper when this came out.. he claimed he didnt know anymore than the rest of us...

yeah right THOMO we believe you, millions wouldnt.

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29115 Gender:	Re: ACTU suspend HSU Reply #10 - Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:17am progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:27pm: What corruption? Apparently there wasn't any by fairwork. Should change the name to UWA - Unfair Work Australia.
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Reply #11 - Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:25am

What a bunch of hypocritical arseh....s the ACTU is.

I can remember way back when Bob Hawke was President of the ACTU. I was in Ansett then and the Federated Clerks Union which represented Traffic Staff at the airport wasn't doing its job.

Think Hayman Island holidays for selected people up the ladder and work from that point on.

In any case we formed the Airline Employees Association. Ansett Airlines sacked the Traffic Staff who joined nationwide.

We used a QC to go to the ACTU and Bob Hawke didn't want to know about us. Even though we were totally in the right.

The ACTU is the biggest can of worms you are ever likely to stumble across, it's like falling in a sh.t pit, dealing with them.

We didn't get our jobs back and I ended up joining the Police where the recruiting officer told, "you won't have to worry about crooked unions here." Which I didn't, the Police Association were great for the length of my career, in fact I am still a member.

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Reply #12 - Apr 6^th, 2012 at 4:03pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:44pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:36pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:31pm:

Wow..you fellas are suddenly concerned about union members.
If Abbott is to impatient to wait until the next election to claim his birthright then he should take some Valium and have a good lie down for 18mths.

you might get some credibility if you could address the reason HSU have been suspended rather than attack everyone else.

Why would I care..Im not a member of the HSU and Im guessing none of you are either.
Its up to the members to sort their own crap out and I doubt Abbott gives a toss about any of them. If there was more than 1 seat between him and his birthright there wouldn't even be a murmur about it from the coalition.
Abbott..a friend of the average union member...give me a break.

I used to be a fee-paying member of the HSU due to my occupation at the time Thomson was misusing members' funds to finance his sexual desires. It upsets me greatly that my payments were not used for their stated purpose, but were instead used because Thomson was too horny to keep it in his pants.

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Reply #13 - Apr 6^th, 2012 at 4:04pm

red baron wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:25am:

What a bunch of hypocritical arseh....s the ACTU is.

I can remember way back when Bob Hawke was President of the ACTU. I was in Ansett then and the Federated Clerks Union which represented Traffic Staff at the airport wasn't doing its job.

Think Hayman Island holidays for selected people up the ladder and work from that point on.

In any case we formed the Airline Employees Association. Ansett Airlines sacked the Traffic Staff who joined nationwide.

We used a QC to go to the ACTU and Bob Hawke didn't want to know about us. Even though we were totally in the right.

The ACTU is the biggest can of worms you are ever likely to stumble across, it's like falling in a sh.t pit, dealing with them.

We didn't get our jobs back and I ended up joining the Police where the recruiting officer told, "you won't have to worry about crooked unions here." Which I didn't, the Police Association were great for the length of my career, in fact I am still a member.

All of the Unions are the same - interested in only one thing and that is the power that they can wield in Canberra.

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