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Grand Mufti: "women are Satan's soldiers" (Read 9626 times)
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Reply #15 - Apr 4th, 2012 at 10:57am
 
Frances wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 12:23am:
Reading through falah's latest posts I was reminded of someone we haven't heard from for a while:  Sheik Taj el-din al Hilaly, former Grand Mufti of Australia and New Zealand who said, amongst other things that:

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Jews try to control the world through sex, then sexual perversion, then the promotion of espionage, treason, and economic hoarding

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11 September is God's work against oppressors

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the Holocaust was a "Zionist lie" and Israel a "cancer"

and, on the subject of rape victims: Quote:
If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats' or the uncovered meat? The uncovered meat is the problem. If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred."


Here's an interesting overview, which contains a curious statement that "Islam has deep roots in Australian soil that were there before the English arrived".  I have no idea what that one is all about.....

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The controversial Muslim leader Sheik Taj el-din al Hilaly has savaged Australia in an interview on Egyptian television, claiming there is no freedom or democracy for Muslims here and that English people are the most unjust and dishonest.

The senior cleric said Muslims were more Australian than Anglo-Saxons because they came here voluntarily, that Australians played the "fear card" to keep Muslims down, and that racial prejudice was the reason for the 55-year sentence given to the gang rapist Bilal Skaf.

"Anglo-Saxons came to Australia in chains, while we paid our way and came in freedom. We are more Australian than them. Australia is not an Anglo-Saxon country - Islam has deep roots in Australian soil that were there before the English arrived," Sheik Hilaly said.

Australia's most controversial cleric was talking on the Egyptian news program Cairo Today, shown in Australia on the Orbit satellite network on Tuesday morning.

The interview, in Arabic, was about the furore he created in October with a Ramadan sermon in which he compared scantily clad women with "uncovered meat", suggesting they were responsible for rape, called women Satan's soldiers to deceive men, and said thieves often stole because they were pressured by greedy women.

After the "uncovered meat" sermon Sheik Hilaly offered to stand down as mufti if an independent panel found he had blamed women for rape. His future will be decided next month by the eight-man executive of a new national board of imams, of which he is a member.

In the half-hour program Sheik Hilaly said the controversy showed how standards were skewed and claims were fabricated. "There is no freedom and no democracy [for Muslims] - the most dishonest and unjust people are Western people and the English in particular."

He said Australian law allowed freedoms that at times were "close to madness", and that Australia had a third gender of "in-between people who are not male or female".

The Prime Minister, John Howard, asked about the sheik's reference to convicts, said: "I think it will bring a wry smile, if it's true … to the face of many Australians who sort of don't actually feel the least bit offended that many of our ancestors came here as convicts."


http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/01/11/1168105115861.html


Sheikh hilaly was saying anyone who does not like uncovered meat must be a vegetarian homo.

As for the article on deep roots that is just Islam trying to rewrite history so they can claim they were here first.
The niqab wearing Aboriginal women are proof Islam was here before white man..

The muslims will say the afghan cameleers were responsible for exploring Australia, the Burke and Wills expedition had no Afghan cameleers yet it did have a few indians who rode camels.
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Re: Grand Mufti: "women are Satan's soldiers"
Reply #16 - Apr 4th, 2012 at 1:50pm
 
Actually European explorers/settlers did find Indigenous Muslims in Arnhem Land during the 1820's and 1830's.

Carbon-dating of pictures of Indonesian perahus found in Arhmen Land prove that the Indigenous people of Arnhem Land had been trading with Macassan Muslim for about 400 years.

Evidence of Muslim Macassan trading camps have been found as far East as the Queensland border, and as far West as Broome in Western Australia.

Quranic recitations and Islamic prayers have been found by anthropolgists in the burial rituals of the Indigenous Yolngu people in Arnhem land.

The Yolngu people are the only Indigenous people to have successfully prevented White invasion of productive fertile lands in Australia.
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Reply #17 - Apr 4th, 2012 at 1:54pm
 
See how Muslims see their women!
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Reply #18 - Apr 4th, 2012 at 1:56pm
 
Do you have any Muslim friends, Avram?
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Reply #19 - Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:02pm
 
MOTR wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 1:56pm:
Do you have any Muslim friends, Avram?


There is a guy here in Australia in my class who I am good acquaintance he is from morocco
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Reply #20 - Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:05pm
 
MOTR wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 1:56pm:
Do you have any Muslim friends, Avram?

Jews are not allowed to have gentile friends only "aquaintances"
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Reply #21 - Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:15pm
 
falah wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:05pm:
MOTR wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 1:56pm:
Do you have any Muslim friends, Avram?


Jews are not allowed to have gentile friends only "aquaintances"





falah's words are exactly opposite to the truth.




MOSLEMS, commanded by Allah.....


"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51


"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them."
Koran 3.28



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Jews, commanded by the God of Israel.....

Exodus 12:49
One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Exodus 22:21
Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him...

Exodus 23:9
Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger...

Leviticus 19:33
And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
34  But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself...


n.b.
.....and thou shalt love him as thyself


Deuteronomy 1:16
And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

Deuteronomy 10:17-19
For the LORD your God... loveth the stranger, ...Love ye therefore the stranger:
for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

Deuteronomy 24:17
Thou shalt not pervert the judgment of the stranger, nor of the fatherless; nor take a widow's raiment to pledge:
18  But thou shalt remember that thou wast a bondman in Egypt, and the LORD thy God redeemed thee thence: therefore I command thee to do this thing.

Deuteronomy 27:19
Cursed be he that perverteth the judgment of the stranger...





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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: Grand Mufti: "women are Satan's soldiers"
Reply #22 - Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:19pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 1:54pm:
See how Muslims see their women!






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Re: Grand Mufti: "women are Satan's soldiers"
Reply #23 - Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:22pm
 
falah wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 1:50pm:
Actually European explorers/settlers did find Indigenous Muslims in Arnhem Land during the 1820's and 1830's.

Carbon-dating of pictures of Indonesian perahus found in Arhmen Land prove that the Indigenous people of Arnhem Land had been trading with Macassan Muslim for about 400 years.

Evidence of Muslim Macassan trading camps have been found as far East as the Queensland border, and as far West as Broome in Western Australia.





Europeans put a stop to that because they started to impose too many regulations on the trade between the Macassans and the Indigenous Australians. There are dreamtime narratives about Muslim 'brothers'.
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Reply #24 - Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:25pm
 
Why do we never hear academics clutching their pearls about macassan "exploitation" of aborigines?

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Reply #25 - Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:26pm
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:22pm:
falah wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 1:50pm:
Actually European explorers/settlers did find Indigenous Muslims in Arnhem Land during the 1820's and 1830's.

Carbon-dating of pictures of Indonesian perahus found in Arhmen Land prove that the Indigenous people of Arnhem Land had been trading with Macassan Muslim for about 400 years.

Evidence of Muslim Macassan trading camps have been found as far East as the Queensland border, and as far West as Broome in Western Australia.





Europeans put a stop to that because they started to impose too many regulations on the trade between the Macassans and the Indigenous Australians. There are dreamtime narratives about Muslim 'brothers'.


First the Europeans tried to tax the Muslim traders out of their traditional trading areas. Then, when that was not entirely successful, the first peice of legislation passed by the new racist Australian government in 1901 was the Immigration Restriction Act or the White Australia policy.
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Reply #26 - Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:39pm
 
Yadda wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:15pm:
falah's words are exactly opposite to the truth.




MOSLEMS, commanded by Allah.....


"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51


"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them."
Koran 3.28





Yadda you seem to have a learning disability.

I have explained to you before that the word in the Quran "awliya" does not mean "friends".

"Awliya" means "protectors" or "guardians".


The Quran tells Muslims not to take Christians or Jews for guardians or protectors.


The word for friend "sadeeq" does not appear in these verses.

The Quran tells us that:

God does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, God loves those who deal with equity.

The Quran, Al-Mumtahinah, v.8
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Reply #27 - Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:39pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:02pm:
MOTR wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 1:56pm:
Do you have any Muslim friends, Avram?


There is a guy here in Australia in my class who I am good acquaintance he is from morocco


Is this how your "acquaintance" sees women.
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Reply #28 - Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:42pm
 

See how we is with girls?

Muslims they allows them nothing and is treat like 2. Class citizen.

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Reply #29 - Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:48pm
 
falah wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:05pm:
MOTR wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 1:56pm:
Do you have any Muslim friends, Avram?

Jews are not allowed to have gentile friends only "aquaintances"


When I was a kid growing up in a Christian church we were discouraged from making friends outside the congregation. New converts were encouraged to cut their old social ties. Even as a child I knew that was wrong. As an adult I know it was all about social control.
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