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Re: A list of Gillard's lies.
Reply #30 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 7:20am

nairbe wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 7:15am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 6:53am:

nairbe wrote on Apr 24^th, 2012 at 8:01pm:

cods wrote on Apr 24^th, 2012 at 7:29pm:

nairbe wrote on Apr 24^th, 2012 at 5:45pm:

matty wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2012 at 9:24pm:

[quote author=26332420351E2E2F24410 link=1333411743/18#18 date=1333451521][quote author=4A4653535E270 link=1333411743/17#17 date=1333450551] she is a narcissistic and psychopathic lying bitch.

You see buy this very statement you discredit yourself. The problem you have is that you will happily elect someone without the competence to do the job out of prejudice. Your hero Howard was a liar, pure and simple. Actually pretty well all the governments i can remember from Whitlam to Gillard have lied and done it constantly. Gillard's misfortune is in the public mood and that she can not lie to save herself. She really would be better off sticking to the truth.

well its good you look at it like that... on the one hand you think all govts lie...

well some truth in that..

BUT NOT QUITE AS BLATANTLY AS THIS ONE>

yet on the other hand you claim she only lies or seems to lie due to the public mood... whatever that means..

I excuse the odd lie or two they are quite often talking on the run...

but some of the actions of gillard are well !!!beyond belief as far as I am concerned,

the fact that she has let slipper suspend himself on full pay and increments..

no balls enough to tell him to ping off until this was sorted...she went after him dont forget... no one pushed him on to her..

she stares the opposition down but stands behind the biggest creeps in parliament THOMO and now SLIPPER..

sorry but thaty might make a great PM to you..

but to me its a weak PM.. hanging by her nails.

I consider she is strong to her convictions but whether they are good convictions or not are what we all enjoy to debate here.

My point about public mood is that they were so sick and tired of the never ending lies and deception of the Howard Government that they dumped them despite how good times were. Rudd then Gillard thought they could just continue the time practiced behaviour of saying one thing and then doing whatever you like.

As for the current government they just can not get their story straight and if you are going to make big changes from what you initially said you need an amazingly good story and stay tight with the detail. They really are hopeless at this.

The big issue i have is that the public are preparing to sacrifice not just a government but democracy in this country for 6 - 10 years when the government though not wonderful have stable economics in the global reality that they work in. Inflation is well in control, employment is stable and low, debt is minor, and vision in things such as the ETS, MRRT, disability insurance, aged care reform and NBN is excellent. The option in Abbott is to destroy everything just to prove a point despite any positives that are there. His absolute attitude leave him open to basically be the most incredible liar ever as if he really follows through we can expect very tough times in the future.

I used to agree with the highlighted statement regarding Gillard's convictions. I used to accept that while she had no freaking idea, at least she stayed true to what she believed in. Not so any more. Now it is all about her desperation to stay in the job - no matter what it takes. She'd sell her partner if it meant another term as PM.

I would agree that is getting sloppy as she tries to keep it together for the term. I doubt even she believes that there is a hope in hell of another term so the imperative is to try and complete this one to make it as hard as possible for Abbott to destroy the reforms and infrastructure building that they have undertaken.

You must realise if Abbott just stops and destroys all that he claims he will he will send this country into recession and will cause increased debt problems. He will have to have some changes of mind or he will be up the creek. I wonder if the electorate will be so hateful toward him or is that just a special event for a woman.

I think you need to give Abbott more credit than that.

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Re: A list of Gillard's lies.
Reply #31 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 8:56am

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2012 at 9:12pm:

matty wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2012 at 8:55pm:

Lol, I love how the lefties on here have deferred to lies told by myself, and lies told by John Howard, many of which, incidentally, have been totally misconstrued, and none anywhere near big as the carbon tax lie. Good to see that you really can defend these lies, guys. Nice work.

I consider the whole 'children overboard 'scandal much worse than the carbon tax .... to claim parents were willing to drown their own kids just to gain some political advantage, when he knew all along that it was a lie ... at least when Gillard promised no carbon tax, she did so without considering what would happen if the election resulted in a hung parliament (no one considered that so she wasn't alone in that department) .... even you moronic liberalites have to admit that the carbon tax was an issue persued by the greens in order for Gillard to form government .... If she had her way, it wouldn't have been a hung parliament and we wouldn't be having this discussion

I thought that the Illegal invasion of Iraq also rates a mention.

We invaded a country in clear breach of international law looking for WMD's which didn't exist and justified by untrue statments. over 100,000 people died.

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Re: A list of Gillard's lies.
Reply #32 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 4:31pm

Dnarever wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 8:56am:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2012 at 9:12pm:

matty wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2012 at 8:55pm:

Lol, I love how the lefties on here have deferred to lies told by myself, and lies told by John Howard, many of which, incidentally, have been totally misconstrued, and none anywhere near big as the carbon tax lie. Good to see that you really can defend these lies, guys. Nice work.

I consider the whole 'children overboard 'scandal much worse than the carbon tax .... to claim parents were willing to drown their own kids just to gain some political advantage, when he knew all along that it was a lie ... at least when Gillard promised no carbon tax, she did so without considering what would happen if the election resulted in a hung parliament (no one considered that so she wasn't alone in that department) .... even you moronic liberalites have to admit that the carbon tax was an issue persued by the greens in order for Gillard to form government .... If she had her way, it wouldn't have been a hung parliament and we wouldn't be having this discussion

I thought that the Illegal invasion of Iraq also rates a mention.

We invaded a country in clear breach of international law looking for WMD's which didn't exist and justified by untrue statments. over 100,000 people died.

are you secretly in love with Howard? you mention him as often as booby mentions lastnail and they are a gay couple. how about you try and defend the current govt for a change!

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Re: A list of Gillard's lies.
Reply #33 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 4:36pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 4:31pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 8:56am:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2012 at 9:12pm:

matty wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2012 at 8:55pm:

Lol, I love how the lefties on here have deferred to lies told by myself, and lies told by John Howard, many of which, incidentally, have been totally misconstrued, and none anywhere near big as the carbon tax lie. Good to see that you really can defend these lies, guys. Nice work.

I consider the whole 'children overboard 'scandal much worse than the carbon tax .... to claim parents were willing to drown their own kids just to gain some political advantage, when he knew all along that it was a lie ... at least when Gillard promised no carbon tax, she did so without considering what would happen if the election resulted in a hung parliament (no one considered that so she wasn't alone in that department) .... even you moronic liberalites have to admit that the carbon tax was an issue persued by the greens in order for Gillard to form government .... If she had her way, it wouldn't have been a hung parliament and we wouldn't be having this discussion

I thought that the Illegal invasion of Iraq also rates a mention.

We invaded a country in clear breach of international law looking for WMD's which didn't exist and justified by untrue statments. over 100,000 people died.

are you secretly in love with Howard? you mention him as often as booby mentions lastnail and they are a gay couple. how about you try and defend the current govt for a change!

Is that because you are worried that when real comparisons are made, its obvious that Gillard is actually doing better than you would like us to know?

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Re: A list of Gillard's lies.
Reply #34 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 4:54pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 4:31pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 8:56am:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2012 at 9:12pm:

matty wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2012 at 8:55pm:

Lol, I love how the lefties on here have deferred to lies told by myself, and lies told by John Howard, many of which, incidentally, have been totally misconstrued, and none anywhere near big as the carbon tax lie. Good to see that you really can defend these lies, guys. Nice work.

I consider the whole 'children overboard 'scandal much worse than the carbon tax .... to claim parents were willing to drown their own kids just to gain some political advantage, when he knew all along that it was a lie ... at least when Gillard promised no carbon tax, she did so without considering what would happen if the election resulted in a hung parliament (no one considered that so she wasn't alone in that department) .... even you moronic liberalites have to admit that the carbon tax was an issue persued by the greens in order for Gillard to form government .... If she had her way, it wouldn't have been a hung parliament and we wouldn't be having this discussion

I thought that the Illegal invasion of Iraq also rates a mention.

We invaded a country in clear breach of international law looking for WMD's which didn't exist and justified by untrue statments. over 100,000 people died.

are you secretly in love with Howard? you mention him as often as booby mentions lastnail and they are a gay couple. how about you try and defend the current govt for a change!

I would think that direct comparison with the previous government on a question specifically asked about the government is valid.

love how the lefties on here have deferred to lies told by myself, and lies told by

John Howard

, many of which, incidentally, have been totally misconstrued, and [highlight]none anywhere near big as the carbon tax lie.

How would you propose a responce to this be given without mantioning JH?

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 120451 Melbourne Gender:	Re: A list of Gillard's lies. Reply #35 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 4:56pm Gillard & Howard have both set examples for the young people of today: If you lie & cheat you can get a top job in Australia - you can even be a Prime Minister. Therefore: if you want to get ahead in life - learn how to be a convincing liar.
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Re: A list of Gillard's lies.
Reply #36 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 5:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 4:56pm:

Gillard & Howard have both set examples for the young people of today:

If you lie & cheat you can get a top job in Australia -
you can even be a Prime Minister.

Therefore:
if you want to get ahead in life -

learn how to be a convincing liar.

Yes, extremely bad role models.

Maybe we should use them as examples of what not to do if you want to have credibility and respect.

Politics though, it's always the rats that run the sewer.

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