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Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate.
Reply #15 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 6:25am

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:43am:

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:25am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:22am:

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:19am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:12am:

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:08am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:00am:

12/09/2006

Shall we debate the GST under these terms Matty???

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Did she then publicly change her mind, prior to the 2010 election?

No she change her position due to the political situation she was faced with to form a minority Government....In the end we still got a better policy than direct action!!!

So then it's just another lie, akin to the carbon tax. Don't compare it to the GST, when Mr Howard had the guts and integrity to actually take it to an election.

Look here little boy....you provided a clip from 2006 two elections before Julia Gillard became PM.....Completely irrelevant....Julia Gillard changed her position due to the political situation she was faced with to form a minority Government!!!

If she didn't publicly declare before the 2010 election, that she had changed her mind about the health rebate, then it makes no difference - she lied, just like she did with the carbon tax. A rose is a rose is a rose is a rose.

So Howard lied about work choices then and invoked the biggest fraud on the Australian public in its history before Julia Gillard.....Howard set the standard we must now accept from our leaders then!!!

Smiley

phil with the best will in the world.. I dont recall the Libs ganging up on Howard.... ever..I do not recall the leadership talk... all we get from them is leadership talk.. very unsettling.

I just dont recall all this during the Howard years..

like it or not her backflips have been amazing..even the pokermachine reform.. she waited until she got slipper on the chair..[still wondering who came up with that]..

and then she could discard him.. all pretty obvious and not unexpected from this women anymore..

I am not to sure how many trust a word that comes out of her mouth..but I know I dont.

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Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate.
Reply #16 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 6:28am

cods wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 6:25am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:43am:

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:25am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:22am:

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:19am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:12am:

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:08am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:00am:

12/09/2006

Shall we debate the GST under these terms Matty???

Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Did she then publicly change her mind, prior to the 2010 election?

No she change her position due to the political situation she was faced with to form a minority Government....In the end we still got a better policy than direct action!!!

So then it's just another lie, akin to the carbon tax. Don't compare it to the GST, when Mr Howard had the guts and integrity to actually take it to an election.

Look here little boy....you provided a clip from 2006 two elections before Julia Gillard became PM.....Completely irrelevant....Julia Gillard changed her position due to the political situation she was faced with to form a minority Government!!!

If she didn't publicly declare before the 2010 election, that she had changed her mind about the health rebate, then it makes no difference - she lied, just like she did with the carbon tax. A rose is a rose is a rose is a rose.

So Howard lied about work choices then and invoked the biggest fraud on the Australian public in its history before Julia Gillard.....Howard set the standard we must now accept from our leaders then!!!

Smiley

phil with the best will in the world.. I dont recall the Libs ganging up on Howard.... ever..I do not recall the leadership talk... all we get from them is leadership talk.. very unsettling.

I just dont recall all this during the Howard years..

like it or not her backflips have been amazing..even the pokermachine reform.. she waited until she got slipper on the chair..[still wondering who came up with that]..

and then she could discard him.. all pretty obvious and not unexpected from this women anymore..

I am not to sure how many trust a word that comes out of her mouth..but I know I dont.

Trust was never an issue raised in the media about Howard - the same cannot be said of Gillard, who is regularly called a liar in the media.

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Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate.
Reply #17 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 6:30am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 6:28am:

cods wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 6:25am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:43am:

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:25am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:22am:

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:19am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:12am:

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:08am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:00am:

12/09/2006

Shall we debate the GST under these terms Matty???

Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Did she then publicly change her mind, prior to the 2010 election?

No she change her position due to the political situation she was faced with to form a minority Government....In the end we still got a better policy than direct action!!!

So then it's just another lie, akin to the carbon tax. Don't compare it to the GST, when Mr Howard had the guts and integrity to actually take it to an election.

Look here little boy....you provided a clip from 2006 two elections before Julia Gillard became PM.....Completely irrelevant....Julia Gillard changed her position due to the political situation she was faced with to form a minority Government!!!

If she didn't publicly declare before the 2010 election, that she had changed her mind about the health rebate, then it makes no difference - she lied, just like she did with the carbon tax. A rose is a rose is a rose is a rose.

So Howard lied about work choices then and invoked the biggest fraud on the Australian public in its history before Julia Gillard.....Howard set the standard we must now accept from our leaders then!!!

Smiley

phil with the best will in the world.. I dont recall the Libs ganging up on Howard.... ever..I do not recall the leadership talk... all we get from them is leadership talk.. very unsettling.

I just dont recall all this during the Howard years..

like it or not her backflips have been amazing..even the pokermachine reform.. she waited until she got slipper on the chair..[still wondering who came up with that]..

and then she could discard him.. all pretty obvious and not unexpected from this women anymore..

I am not to sure how many trust a word that comes out of her mouth..but I know I dont.

Trust was never an issue raised in the media about Howard - the same cannot be said of Gillard, who is regularly called a liar in the media.

And that says more about the bias of the media than it does about the honesty of our politicians!!

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Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate.
Reply #18 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 6:37am

glee wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 6:30am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 6:28am:

cods wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 6:25am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:43am:

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:25am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:22am:

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:19am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:12am:

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:08am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:00am:

12/09/2006

Shall we debate the GST under these terms Matty???

Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Did she then publicly change her mind, prior to the 2010 election?

No she change her position due to the political situation she was faced with to form a minority Government....In the end we still got a better policy than direct action!!!

So then it's just another lie, akin to the carbon tax. Don't compare it to the GST, when Mr Howard had the guts and integrity to actually take it to an election.

Look here little boy....you provided a clip from 2006 two elections before Julia Gillard became PM.....Completely irrelevant....Julia Gillard changed her position due to the political situation she was faced with to form a minority Government!!!

If she didn't publicly declare before the 2010 election, that she had changed her mind about the health rebate, then it makes no difference - she lied, just like she did with the carbon tax. A rose is a rose is a rose is a rose.

So Howard lied about work choices then and invoked the biggest fraud on the Australian public in its history before Julia Gillard.....Howard set the standard we must now accept from our leaders then!!!

Smiley

phil with the best will in the world.. I dont recall the Libs ganging up on Howard.... ever..I do not recall the leadership talk... all we get from them is leadership talk.. very unsettling.

I just dont recall all this during the Howard years..

like it or not her backflips have been amazing..even the pokermachine reform.. she waited until she got slipper on the chair..[still wondering who came up with that]..

and then she could discard him.. all pretty obvious and not unexpected from this women anymore..

I am not to sure how many trust a word that comes out of her mouth..but I know I dont.

Trust was never an issue raised in the media about Howard - the same cannot be said of Gillard, who is regularly called a liar in the media.

And that says more about the bias of the media than it does about the honesty of our politicians!!

Really? You don't remember the media jumping on the Rudd bandwagon prior to him beating Howard? You don't remember the media sticking by Rudd when he was at his lowest, right up until it was obvious he was a goner? Media bias, my backside!

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate. Reply #19 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 6:38am And that says more about the bias of the media than it does about the honesty of our politicians!! hahahahahaha.. how many of them been taken to task over telling LIES? out and out lies.. and when we look at the ABC.. there is never a complaint from the whingeing left is there??? wonder Y???
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Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate.
Reply #20 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:07am

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Really? You don't remember the media jumping on the Rudd bandwagon prior to him beating Howard? You don't remember the media sticking by Rudd when he was at his lowest, right up until it was obvious he was a goner? Media bias, my backside!

We were talking Howard - Gillard reporting. Not sure why you bring Rudd into it.

Regardless - if the current Govt had lied to the level of the previous coalition Govt, and Howard in particular, the media would have whipped the brainless into a bigger frenzy than they are now over the Carbon "tax". Instead the "children overboard", AWB fiasco, Howards holiday on taxpayer money, WMD, Medicare bulkbilling, University fees, etc, etc, died in the media in very short time. Strange, don't you think?

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Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate.
Reply #21 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:08am

cods wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 6:38am:

And that says more about the bias of the media than it does about the honesty of our politicians!!

hahahahahaha.. how many of them been taken to task over telling LIES? out and out lies..

and when we look at the ABC.. there is never a complaint from the whingeing left is there???

wonder Y???

There was never a complaint from the whinging right when Howard stacked the ABC board with his cronies. Wonder Y???

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Reply #23 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:35am

matty wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:50pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:31pm:

Times change, Matty!
Politicians change their minds, Matty!
All Politicians tell Porkies, Matty!
Get past it & over it, Matty!

Two wrongs don't make a right, pn. Gillard leaves all other pollies for dead when it comes to lying. In the words of Gough Whitlam, "Maintain the rage".

When I comes to dishonesty Gillard does not hold a candle to the Liberals performance. Howard is the record holder in this catagory by a large distance.

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Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate.
Reply #24 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 8:14am

Dnarever wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:35am:

matty wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:50pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:31pm:

Times change, Matty!
Politicians change their minds, Matty!
All Politicians tell Porkies, Matty!
Get past it & over it, Matty!

Two wrongs don't make a right, pn. Gillard leaves all other pollies for dead when it comes to lying. In the words of Gough Whitlam, "Maintain the rage".

When I comes to dishonesty Gillard does not hold a candle to the Liberals performance. Howard is the record holder in this catagory by a large distance.

so you say - that and probably 4 others. The australian electorate however, reveres him as Honest John, australia's favourite PM.

AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate.
Reply #25 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 8:27am

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 8:14am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:35am:

matty wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:50pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:31pm:

Times change, Matty!
Politicians change their minds, Matty!
All Politicians tell Porkies, Matty!
Get past it & over it, Matty!

Two wrongs don't make a right, pn. Gillard leaves all other pollies for dead when it comes to lying. In the words of Gough Whitlam, "Maintain the rage".

When I comes to dishonesty Gillard does not hold a candle to the Liberals performance. Howard is the record holder in this catagory by a large distance.

so you say - that and probably 4 others. The australian electorate however, reveres him as Honest John, australia's favourite PM.

The smart ones in the electorate know him as The Lying Rodent.

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Reply #26 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 8:37am

glee wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 8:27am:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 8:14am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:35am:

matty wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:50pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:31pm:

Times change, Matty!
Politicians change their minds, Matty!
All Politicians tell Porkies, Matty!
Get past it & over it, Matty!

Two wrongs don't make a right, pn. Gillard leaves all other pollies for dead when it comes to lying. In the words of Gough Whitlam, "Maintain the rage".

When I comes to dishonesty Gillard does not hold a candle to the Liberals performance. Howard is the record holder in this catagory by a large distance.

so you say - that and probably 4 others. The australian electorate however, reveres him as Honest John, australia's favourite PM.

The smart ones in the electorate know him as The Lying Rodent.

the smart ones voted him in for 12 years. and anyone who wants to call howard a liar while avoiding the acknowledged master of deciet - Gillard - has a credibility problem.

AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #27 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 8:45am

Gillard has a huge credibility problem.

Watching her in interviews though she doesn't necessarily say any more 'untruths' as any other politician - the problem she has is that she is just so poor at interviewing and speaking that it comes across so badly.

You CANNOT answer "I have answered your question" and then when they follow up with 'You haven't' go and respond with "Well thats the answer I am going to give you".

I mean for fks sake woman, how do you think that is going to play well for you?
Why in your right mind would you think that will come out well when people watch it?

"That's the answer I will give you".

???????????

Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination - Oscar Wilde

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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate. Reply #28 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 9:14am Labor, the party of lies, corruption, debt and taxes. Thanks for the video matty. I looked but couldn't find it. Make sure you put this in your war chest for the next election, along with all the other vids.
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glee

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Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate.
Reply #29 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 9:16am

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 8:37am:

glee wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 8:27am:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 8:14am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:35am:

matty wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:50pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:31pm:

Times change, Matty!
Politicians change their minds, Matty!
All Politicians tell Porkies, Matty!
Get past it & over it, Matty!

Two wrongs don't make a right, pn. Gillard leaves all other pollies for dead when it comes to lying. In the words of Gough Whitlam, "Maintain the rage".

When I comes to dishonesty Gillard does not hold a candle to the Liberals performance. Howard is the record holder in this catagory by a large distance.

so you say - that and probably 4 others. The australian electorate however, reveres him as Honest John, australia's favourite PM.

The smart ones in the electorate know him as The Lying Rodent.

the smart ones voted him in for 12 years. and anyone who wants to call howard a liar while avoiding the acknowledged master of deciet - Gillard - has a credibility problem.

the only people with credibility problems are those who cannot see that they ALL lie. One side is not worse (or better) than the other. If you accept the lying from one side and not the other, then it is you who have a problem.

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