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Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED
Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:17am

Mark Metherell
February 15, 2012 -

About 2 million people face higher health insurance premiums after the Gillard government finally secured passage through the House of Representatives of its plan to means test the health insurance rebate.

The measure, which has still to pass the Senate — expected to be a formality — will mean that single people on incomes above $83,000 a year and families above $166,000 a year will begin to lose the rebate, typically worth $1000 a year to families.

Under the measures, to take effect next financial year, the rebate cuts out altogether for singles on $129,000, and families on $258,000.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott this morning committed to restoring the full rebate for all, when financial circumstances permit a Coalition government to do so.

"Private health insurance is in our DNA," he told Macquarie Radio. Grin

"It is our raison d'etre, that is why we exist as a political movement, to give more support and encourage for people who want to get ahead."

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/means-test-on-private-health-rebate-finally-passes-lower-house-20120215-1t557.html#ixzz1mPPIXOaL

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chicken_lipsforme Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7090 Townsville NQ Gender:	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #1 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:19am There's one good policy from the Gillard government.
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #2 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:19am All govt handouts should be means tested and anyone that disagrees is just addicted to middle class welfare.
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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #3 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:20am Congratulations labor and the Australian Greens. Good news. Well done.
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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #4 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:21am Quote: Opposition Leader Tony Abbott this morning committed to restoring the full rebate for all, when financial circumstances permit a Coalition government to do so.
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #5 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:22am The ALP and Greens have just re-ignited the class wars Don't get me wrong - I am all for it. But it could have been handled alot better
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #6 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:24am Maqqa wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:22am: The ALP and Greens have just re-ignited the class wars A war on welfare leeches more like it.
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Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED
Reply #7 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:42am

adelcrow wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:19am:

All govt handouts should be means tested and anyone that disagrees is just addicted to middle class welfare.

Couldnt agree more. This is not a view I get because I am in the "lower" classes. I'm well into middle to upper in terms of income.
But this middle class welfare brought about by the howard government is the biggest hurdle this country faces. Billions of tax payer money is wasted.

Health is just the start. Excessive tax payer financing of elitist private schools, and limitless negative gearing are the other "reverse" taxation issues which distribute tax dollars to the rich.

It will take decades to unravel the mess Howard made by buying votes over the decade of his tenure.

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Verge Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6329 Gender:	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #8 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:58am Im getting a sick and tired of Abbott promising to recind everything the Greens put in place, even if its a good idea. I have no problems recinding poor policy, but you shouldnt recind bad. This, and the mining tax are good policy.
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #9 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:58am Cant believe labor policies at all. The opposition launched an attack yesterday on the means test, saying it was in breach of Julia Gillard's ''ironclad'' promise before the 2007 election not to touch the insurance rebate.
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Reply #10 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:00pm

adelcrow wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:24am:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:22am:

The ALP and Greens have just re-ignited the class wars

A war on welfare leeches more like it.

Macca, made a good point, but nice work to smear there crowy.

Like he said, its a good policy handled poorly.

Macca deserves a pat on the back for bipartisanship for the first time in a while, and you make a sly backhander.

No wonder this board turns into a right versus left as opposed to good policy versus bad.

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And why not, if you will permit me; why shouldn’t I, if you will permit me; spend my first week as prime minister, should that happen, on this, on your, country - Abbott with the Garma People Aug 13

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Reply #11 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:01pm

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:58am:

Cant believe labor policies at all.

The opposition launched an attack yesterday on the means test, saying it was in breach of Julia Gillard's ''ironclad'' promise before the 2007 election not to touch the insurance rebate.

got a link ?

You do realize, even if true, that is 2 elections ago.

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Reply #12 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:02pm

Verge wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:24am:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:22am:

The ALP and Greens have just re-ignited the class wars

A war on welfare leeches more like it.

Macca, made a good point, but nice work to smear there crowy.

Like he said, its a good policy handled poorly.

How is it handled poorly ?

The only way it could be handled better would be by bipartisan approval. That seems to be an impossibility in the present term.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #13 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:04pm As a doctor said on tv yesterday...I pay more to insure my car than it costs for my health insurance and the govt doesnt subsidise me to do that so why should they subsidise my health insurance.
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FriYAY Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7395	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #14 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:05pm A familiy 4 on 168,000..... Yeah, sock it to that middle calss leech.
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