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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	What Gillard once said about the health rebate. Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:24pm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvyfQVjV178&feature=channel_video_title
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perceptions_now Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11694 Perth WA Gender:	Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate. Reply #1 - Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:31pm Times change, Matty! Politicians change their minds, Matty! All Politicians tell Porkies, Matty! Get past it & over it, Matty!
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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate. Reply #2 - Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:38pm My only concern is these reforms did not go as far as they needed to, as far as winding back tax payers healthcare subsidies for the rich..
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Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate.
Reply #3 - Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:50pm

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:31pm:

Times change, Matty!
Politicians change their minds, Matty!
All Politicians tell Porkies, Matty!
Get past it & over it, Matty!

Two wrongs don't make a right, pn. Gillard leaves all other pollies for dead when it comes to lying. In the words of Gough Whitlam, "Maintain the rage".

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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21097 Perth Gender:	Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate. Reply #4 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:00am 12/09/2006 Shall we debate the GST under these terms Matty???
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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate. Reply #5 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:08am philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:00am: 12/09/2006 Shall we debate the GST under these terms Matty??? Did she then publicly change her mind, prior to the 2010 election?
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Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate.
Reply #6 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:12am

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:08am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:00am:

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Shall we debate the GST under these terms Matty???

Roll Eyes

Did she then publicly change her mind, prior to the 2010 election?

No she change her position due to the political situation she was faced with to form a minority Government....In the end we still got a better policy than direct action!!!

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Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate.
Reply #7 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:19am

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:12am:

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:08am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:00am:

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Shall we debate the GST under these terms Matty???

Roll Eyes

Did she then publicly change her mind, prior to the 2010 election?

No she change her position due to the political situation she was faced with to form a minority Government....In the end we still got a better policy than direct action!!!

So then it's just another lie, akin to the carbon tax. Don't compare it to the GST, when Mr Howard had the guts and integrity to actually take it to an election.

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Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate.
Reply #8 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:22am

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:19am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:12am:

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:08am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:00am:

12/09/2006

Shall we debate the GST under these terms Matty???

Roll Eyes

Did she then publicly change her mind, prior to the 2010 election?

No she change her position due to the political situation she was faced with to form a minority Government....In the end we still got a better policy than direct action!!!

So then it's just another lie, akin to the carbon tax. Don't compare it to the GST, when Mr Howard had the guts and integrity to actually take it to an election.

Look here little boy....you provided a clip from 2006 two elections before Julia Gillard became PM.....Completely irrelevant....Julia Gillard changed her position due to the political situation she was faced with to form a minority Government!!!

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate. Reply #9 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:24am This corrupt Political class will ensure political, social, economic, housing and employment security and stability or it will receive no cooperation and a growing resistance from the people.
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Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate.
Reply #10 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:25am

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:22am:

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:19am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:12am:

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:08am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:00am:

12/09/2006

Shall we debate the GST under these terms Matty???

Roll Eyes

Did she then publicly change her mind, prior to the 2010 election?

No she change her position due to the political situation she was faced with to form a minority Government....In the end we still got a better policy than direct action!!!

So then it's just another lie, akin to the carbon tax. Don't compare it to the GST, when Mr Howard had the guts and integrity to actually take it to an election.

Look here little boy....you provided a clip from 2006 two elections before Julia Gillard became PM.....Completely irrelevant....Julia Gillard changed her position due to the political situation she was faced with to form a minority Government!!!

If she didn't publicly declare before the 2010 election, that she had changed her mind about the health rebate, then it makes no difference - she lied, just like she did with the carbon tax. A rose is a rose is a rose is a rose.

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Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate.
Reply #11 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:43am

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:25am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:22am:

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:19am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:12am:

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:08am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:00am:

12/09/2006

Shall we debate the GST under these terms Matty???

Roll Eyes

Did she then publicly change her mind, prior to the 2010 election?

No she change her position due to the political situation she was faced with to form a minority Government....In the end we still got a better policy than direct action!!!

So then it's just another lie, akin to the carbon tax. Don't compare it to the GST, when Mr Howard had the guts and integrity to actually take it to an election.

Look here little boy....you provided a clip from 2006 two elections before Julia Gillard became PM.....Completely irrelevant....Julia Gillard changed her position due to the political situation she was faced with to form a minority Government!!!

If she didn't publicly declare before the 2010 election, that she had changed her mind about the health rebate, then it makes no difference - she lied, just like she did with the carbon tax. A rose is a rose is a rose is a rose.

So Howard lied about work choices then and invoked the biggest fraud on the Australian public in its history before Julia Gillard.....Howard set the standard we must now accept from our leaders then!!!

Smiley

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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21097 Perth Gender:	Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate. Reply #12 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:51am
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Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate.
Reply #13 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 3:01am

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:22am:

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:19am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:12am:

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:08am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:00am:

12/09/2006

Shall we debate the GST under these terms Matty???

Roll Eyes

Did she then publicly change her mind, prior to the 2010 election?

No she change her position due to the political situation she was faced with to form a minority Government....In the end we still got a better policy than direct action!!!

So then it's just another lie, akin to the carbon tax. Don't compare it to the GST, when Mr Howard had the guts and integrity to actually take it to an election.

Look here little boy....you provided a clip from 2006 two elections before Julia Gillard became PM.....Completely irrelevant....Julia Gillard changed her position due to the political situation she was faced with to form a minority Government!!!

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Indeed, but her head was not on a block - she didn't have to bribe independents and the Greenurds.

Had she also cheated in her exams to become a solicitor?

Judging by her vocabulary blunders, how had she passed in English, the most essentail subject in the practice of law?

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Re: What Gillard once said about the health rebate.
Reply #14 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 6:22am

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 1:00am:

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Shall we debate the GST under these terms Matty???

Roll Eyes

Sure...

GST - taken to an election and voters given the opportunity to remove Howard.

Carbon tax - not taken to an election, in fact it was introduced by Gillard after it was promised emphatically that there would not be a carbon tax at the last election.

That's not debatable, really.

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