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bobbythefap1

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What do you think about guns?
Feb 17^th, 2012 at 4:53pm

Personally I don’t like guns, but I do believe they should be legal without strict licensing because:

1. Our army and police have them and we should be able to defend ourselves from them if need be.
2. There are always going to be illegal guns, so when you illegalize them you stop law abiding citizens from defending themselves and feeling protected.

If we could get rid of all guns then I would be happy for them to be illegal. But we’re not going to stop the illegal ones and were never going to take them away from our law enforcement.

The government shouldnt infringe on the right of the public for a crime they havent commited.

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Reply #4 - Feb 17^th, 2012 at 5:19pm

http://www.alternativeright.com/main/blogs/district-of-corruption/the-war-on-gun...

More Guns, Less Crime is a book by John Lott that says violent crime rates go down when states pass "shall issue" concealed carry laws. He presents the results of his statistical analysis of crime data for every county in the United States during 18 years from 1977 to 1994. The book expands on an earlier study published in 1997 by Lott and his co-author David Mustard in The Journal of Legal Studies.[1] Lott also examines the effects of gun control laws, including the Brady Law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_Guns,_Less_Crime

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Re: What do you think about guns?
Reply #5 - Feb 17^th, 2012 at 5:52pm

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 5:19pm:

http://www.alternativeright.com/main/blogs/district-of-corruption/the-war-on-gun...

More Guns, Less Crime is a book by John Lott that says violent crime rates go down when states pass "shall issue" concealed carry laws. He presents the results of his statistical analysis of crime data for every county in the United States during 18 years from 1977 to 1994. The book expands on an earlier study published in 1997 by Lott and his co-author David Mustard in The Journal of Legal Studies.[1] Lott also examines the effects of gun control laws, including the Brady Law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_Guns,_Less_Crime

Nice!
I have read a lot of stuff similar too this and with many other good points about guns.
People have been scared silly about guns tho and most people wont budge

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: What do you think about guns? Reply #6 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 6:28am hate them.. they have only ONE purpose in life.. to blow a hole in something.
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Re: What do you think about guns?
Reply #7 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:21am

Criminals will get guns no matter what the 'law' says.

BUT.....

There are a HELL of a lot of smack-wits out there who are not necessarily
'criminals' as such, but who should NEVER be allowed access to guns.

I do not want this country to go down the road America chose, or to end
up like a Middle-Eastern cesspit where firing AK47s into the air seems to
be de rigeur at any public gathering.

One only has to read some of the outright hatred displayed on boards like
this to realise that giving people unrestricted access to guns is one VERY
bad idea.

Daily we see people calling for the death of politicians, paedophiles,
Muslims, Aborigines, the unemployed, 'bogans', exes and any number
of others. Much of this is merely 'hot-air', but by no means all of it.

How long before some nut-bar takes his LEGAL gun and decides to
take things into his own hands?

JUST like they do in the USA.

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Re: What do you think about guns?
Reply #8 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:53am

Kat wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:21am:

Criminals will get guns no matter what the 'law' says.

BUT.....

There are a HELL of a lot of smack-wits out there who are not necessarily
'criminals' as such, but who should NEVER be allowed access to guns.

I do not want this country to go down the road America chose, or to end
up like a Middle-Eastern cesspit where firing AK47s into the air seems to
be de rigeur at any public gathering.

One only has to read some of the outright hatred displayed on boards like
this to realise that giving people unrestricted access to guns is one VERY
bad idea.

Daily we see people calling for the death of politicians, paedophiles,
Muslims, Aborigines, the unemployed, 'bogans', exes and any number
of others. Much of this is merely 'hot-air', but by no means all of it.

How long before some nut-bar takes his LEGAL gun and decides to
take things into his own hands?

JUST like they do in the USA.

Yeah 'cause that happened every other week before the gun buy-back didn't it?

FFS!

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Re: What do you think about guns?
Reply #9 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 8:11am

bobbythefap1 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 5:52pm:

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 5:19pm:

http://www.alternativeright.com/main/blogs/district-of-corruption/the-war-on-gun...

More Guns, Less Crime is a book by John Lott that says violent crime rates go down when states pass "shall issue" concealed carry laws. He presents the results of his statistical analysis of crime data for every county in the United States during 18 years from 1977 to 1994. The book expands on an earlier study published in 1997 by Lott and his co-author David Mustard in The Journal of Legal Studies.[1] Lott also examines the effects of gun control laws, including the Brady Law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_Guns,_Less_Crime

Nice!
I have read a lot of stuff similar too this and with many other good points about guns.
People have been scared silly about guns tho and most people wont budge

It might have some positive effects in places with high gun possession and homicide rates like in the US, but for places like here with relatively low gun possession and homicides rates it would be counter productive.

The US has around eight times the homicide rate than what we have here in Australia - most of them firearm related. Here fireams make up only a minority of homicide cases. If the US had a similar percentage of firearm homicides then they'd only have around an eighth the number of homicides - pretty much the same as here (per capita).

More guns in the community = more gun homicides.

It's damn safe here. Even the areas with bad reps are pretty damn safe. You're eight times less likely to end up a homicide statistic here than what you would be in the US.

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Re: What do you think about guns?
Reply #10 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 8:53am

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What do you think about guns?

At the moment Guns are almost all in the hands of evil - the corrupt Political class dictatorship and while they increasingly build up the fire power supporting their dictatorship they tighten up on ownership laws for citizens outside the political class which is interesting. I am in favor of an unarmed Police force and the military stood down except in times of war. Cool

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20668 Gender:	Re: What do you think about guns? Reply #11 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 9:10am I like the Gun Laws in Bermuda, there is stuff all gun crimes in Bermuda. 5 Years jail for an unlicensed firearm. An additional year for every bullet that is loaded into the gun. A six shot revolver fully loaded gets you 11 years if you dont have a license. Compare that to Australia.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 120874 Melbourne Gender:	Re: What do you think about guns? Reply #12 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 10:04am I don't like any guns being in the hands of irresponsible people - that can include police & security guards. There are too many firearm incidents & it's about time the rules were tightened up.
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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: What do you think about guns? Reply #13 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 10:08am cods wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 6:28am: hate them.. they have only ONE purpose in life.. to blow a hole in something. I agree, but if one person has a right to that power, everyone should
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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: What do you think about guns? Reply #14 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 10:13am Quote: I do not want this country to go down the road America chose, Kat, Atleast they have a way to defend their freedoms; currently our 'governments' are taking our rights away at the edge of the knife and when people finally say enough is enough it will be too late
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Illegal 5 (20.0%) Legal 11 (44.0%) Legal with strict licensing 9 (36.0%) Not sure 0 (0.0%) Dont care 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 25 « Created by: bobbythefap1 on: Feb 17^th, 2012 at 4:56pm »