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Reply #90 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 9:59pm

How does diverting funds from the cash strapped public sector to the most wealthy in our society be considered good policy......If the wealthy want to drop out of private health insurance and pay a higher medicare levy and be penalised if they want to rejoin then the public system will still be stronger.....We have 18 months to see if the wealthy dump their private health insurance and go onto public waiting lists behind everyone else....My guess is most people will understand the gravy train has left the station and it is still better to have private health insurance if you can afford it!!!

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Reply #91 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:05pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 9:49pm:

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 9:43pm:

Only just caught onto this whole thing now, but why is removing the rebate a good thing? Given the current state of the public health system I would have thought anything to relieve the pressure off public hospitals would be a good thing?

Exactly.
This has NOTHING
to do with helping the public health system.

It has EVERYTHING
to do with Labor's burning hatred of the middle income bracket.

In the words of the late Eric Morecombe....

"Rubbish!"

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Reply #92 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:11pm

Kat wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:05pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 9:49pm:

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 9:43pm:

Only just caught onto this whole thing now, but why is removing the rebate a good thing? Given the current state of the public health system I would have thought anything to relieve the pressure off public hospitals would be a good thing?

Exactly.
This has NOTHING
to do with helping the public health system.

It has EVERYTHING
to do with Labor's burning hatred of the middle income bracket.

In the words of the late Eric Morecombe....

"Rubbish!"

*Private healthcare rebate
*Superannuations offset cut
*Baby bonus means tested
*First Homebuyer grant restriction
* Giving out $1,000 to the lower people and excluding those over $100k

Notice which demographic are hit by all this??

Yep those of us in the middle.
The people who pay tax to support the likes of the welfare bludgers that Labor love to help so much.

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #93 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:20pm Quote: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED A true accomplishment the Government can put in the tick column....
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Reply #94 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:22pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:20pm:

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Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED

A true accomplishment the Government can put in the tick column.... Cool

And bang another nail into the coffin that is their re-election hope.

This has been a disastrous Government led by a very unpopular Prime Minister.

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #95 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:24pm Abbott has basically cooked his own goose committing himself against this policy - he is giving people the reason not to vote for him.
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Reply #96 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:27pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:22pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:20pm:

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Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED

A true accomplishment the Government can put in the tick column.... Cool

And bang another nail into the coffin that is their re-election hope.

This has been a disastrous Government led by a very unpopular Prime Minister.

Lol - working families that were conned and forced onto Private healthcover by Howard are cheering from the rafters at this reform. Cool

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Reply #97 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:35pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:11pm:

Kat wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:05pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 9:49pm:

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 9:43pm:

Only just caught onto this whole thing now, but why is removing the rebate a good thing? Given the current state of the public health system I would have thought anything to relieve the pressure off public hospitals would be a good thing?

Exactly.
This has NOTHING
to do with helping the public health system.

It has EVERYTHING
to do with Labor's burning hatred of the middle income bracket.

In the words of the late Eric Morecombe....

"Rubbish!"

*Private healthcare rebate
*Superannuations offset cut
*Baby bonus means tested
*First Homebuyer grant restriction
* Giving out $1,000 to the lower people and excluding those over $100k

Notice which demographic are hit by all this??

Yep those of us in the middle.
The people who pay tax to support the likes of the welfare bludgers that Labor love to help so much.

And EVERY BIT of it is WEALTHFARE.

YOU are rich enough to not NEED it, so YOU shouldn't GET it.

And if it hadn't been for Howard buying votes, you would never
have HAD nit in the first place.

ALL wealthfare should be means-tested, and the cutoff point
should be well below what you claim to earn.

And the money saved should go to the WELfare
recipients that you despise so much.

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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21097 Perth Gender:	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #98 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:42pm Tony Abbott will have to argue why high income earners deserve a taxpayer funded hand out for their private health insurance and tell taxpayers what he will cut to provide this necessity.....I doubt he will convince the majority of people he is correct!!!
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GoddyofOz Gold Member Offline Vote 1 for Sex, cause you're gay if you don't Posts: 2397	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #99 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:42pm You're pretty much correct Kat. All this is is undoing the unfairness Howards reforms swept into the Healthcare system. Why should the taxpayer pay to keep others rich?
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Reply #100 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:42pm

Here is my point though Kat.

What have these people done to deserve to get all this and the rest of us should get nothing?

What help did I get from the Government in my life?

My schooling was paid for by my parents, so the Government provided nothing there.

My university was paid by my parents - so again nothing from the Government there.

My professional qualifications were paid for by my employer - no Government help.

What have the Labor Government ever done for me??

Nothing but take things off me.

Then give to people who, with the greatest respect, are not more than scum.

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Reply #101 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:44pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:42pm:

Here is my point though Kat.

What have these people done to deserve to get all this and the rest of us should get nothing?

What help did I get from the Government in my life?

My schooling was paid for by my parents, so the Government provided nothing there.

My university was paid by my parents - so again nothing from the Government there.

My professional qualifications were paid for by my employer - no Government help.

What have the Labor Government ever done for me??

Nothing but take things off me.

Then give to people who, with the greatest respect, are not more than scum.

Keep peddling that sweeping generalisation if it lets you sleep well at night.

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Reply #102 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:44pm

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 9:43pm:

Only just caught onto this whole thing now, but why is removing the rebate a good thing? Given the current state of the public health system I would have thought anything to relieve the pressure off public hospitals would be a good thing?

But Matty, you were talking to us just a minute ago. What happened?

You were going to give up politics and become a specialist, remember?

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Reply #103 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:45pm

GoddyofOz wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:44pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:42pm:

Here is my point though Kat.

What have these people done to deserve to get all this and the rest of us should get nothing?

What help did I get from the Government in my life?

My schooling was paid for by my parents, so the Government provided nothing there.

My university was paid by my parents - so again nothing from the Government there.

My professional qualifications were paid for by my employer - no Government help.

What have the Labor Government ever done for me??

Nothing but take things off me.

Then give to people who, with the greatest respect, are not more than scum.

Keep peddling that sweeping generalisation if it lets you sleep well at night.

I sleep soundly thanks young man.

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Reply #104 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 10:48pm

Most people on here who support do not reflect the majority out there in Australia.

When you look at it - you have lower echelon folk, youngsters who have never really lived or run a family and dropouts like Buzz.

Real everyday families who will be excluded with this stupid decision will not be happy.

In short this Government has not a cat's chance in hell of re-election.

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