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Reply #15 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:05pm

Verge wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:58am:

Im getting a sick and tired of Abbott promising to recind everything the Greens put in place, even if its a good idea.

I have no problems recinding poor policy, but you shouldnt recind bad.

This, and the mining tax are good policy.

Agreed. Was just thinking along similar lines myself.

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Reply #16 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:15pm

Kat wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:05pm:

Verge wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:58am:

Im getting a sick and tired of Abbott promising to recind everything the Greens put in place, even if its a good idea.

I have no problems recinding poor policy, but you shouldnt recind bad.

This, and the mining tax are good policy.

Agreed. Was just thinking along similar lines myself.

He is going to spend 3 yrs wiping the previous 6 yrs off the face of the earth instead of getting on with the job and governing without explaining what he is going to replace everything with.
Expensive, wastefull and time consuming comes to mind.

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #17 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:18pm Any Policy that redirects money from the Mining sector to the welfare of the Political class or other corporate welfare sectors should be rescinded. If this revenue is to be used for the common good, then I am all for it, but no corporate welfare scams at the tax payers expense.
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Reply #18 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:18pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:01pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:58am:

Cant believe labor policies at all.

The opposition launched an attack yesterday on the means test, saying it was in breach of Julia Gillard's ''ironclad'' promise before the 2007 election not to touch the insurance rebate.

got a link ?

You do realize, even if true, that is 2 elections ago.

yet you claim the 2007 election was a mandate for an ETS. yu cant haev it both ways.

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #19 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:21pm Quote: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Groovy man - chew on that Longweakend you bitter small minded person.
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Reply #20 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:22pm

Well in his first opportunity to show what kind of backbone he had, Andrew Wilkie showed why both sides of politics think he has the spine of a jellyfish. Fresh from having his own legislation torpedoed and the raison d etre for support Gillard in the first place, broken, his first act is to support her in legislation he previously opposed.

The man is a wimp, with no apparent policy position. But then what do you expect from a man who finished in third place in his electorate on primaries yet has the audacity to make demands.

He is in the Rob Oakeshott mold of independant.

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Reply #21 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:25pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:22pm:

Well in his first opportunity to show what kind of backbone he had, Andrew Wilkie showed why both sides of politics think he has the spine of a jellyfish. Fresh from having his own legislation torpedoed and the raison d etre for support Gillard in the first place, broken, his first act is to support her in legislation he previously opposed.

The man is a wimp, with no apparent policy position. But then what do you expect from a man who finished in third place in his electorate on primaries yet has the audacity to make demands.

He is in the Rob Oakeshott mold of independent.

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Yet they are having more of an affect on policy than Tony Abbott who is opposing everything even good policies....Abbott has nothing to offer the Australian people!!!

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Reply #22 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:26pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:21pm:

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Groovy man - chew on that Longweakend you bitter small minded person. Cool

firstly, it doesnt apply to me and secondly, I can leave my own house without a double axle trailer to carry me - unlike you. AND i dont have to get committed twice a year as you do.

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Reply #23 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:28pm

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:22pm:

Well in his first opportunity to show what kind of backbone he had, Andrew Wilkie showed why both sides of politics think he has the spine of a jellyfish. Fresh from having his own legislation torpedoed and the raison d etre for support Gillard in the first place, broken, his first act is to support her in legislation he previously opposed.

The man is a wimp, with no apparent policy position. But then what do you expect from a man who finished in third place in his electorate on primaries yet has the audacity to make demands.

He is in the Rob Oakeshott mold of independent.

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Yet they are having more of an affect on policy than Tony Abbott who is opposing everything even good policies....Abbott has nothing to offer the Australian people!!!

how about we leave such assessments to the next electio where the voters will finally be able to cast THEIR judgment. do you expect ANY of those independents to survive? no one else does.

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Reply #24 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:29pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:22pm:

Well in his first opportunity to show what kind of backbone he had, Andrew Wilkie showed why both sides of politics think he has the spine of a jellyfish. Fresh from having his own legislation torpedoed and the raison d etre for support Gillard in the first place, broken, his first act is to support her in legislation he previously opposed.

The man is a wimp, with no apparent policy position. But then what do you expect from a man who finished in third place in his electorate on primaries yet has the audacity to make demands.

He is in the Rob Oakeshott mold of independant.

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Why is it a surprise that Wilkie would support the beginning of the dismantling of middle class welfare?
Good on him..he's one of the few decent honest pollies in our federal parliament.

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Reply #25 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:32pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 8:24pm:

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A few FACTS
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to dispel a lot of MYTHS

From 1 July 2010, the Government will introduce three new ‘Private Health Insurance Incentive Tiers’ –

• Tier 1: for singles earning more than $75,000 (couples $150,000), the Private HealthInsurance Rebate will be 20 per cent for those up to 65 years (25 per cent for those over65, and 30 per cent for those over 70 years). The Surcharge for avoiding private healthinsurance will remain at one per cent.

• Tier 2: for singles earning more than $90,000 (couples $180,000), the Private HealthInsurance Rebate will be 10 per cent, for those up to 65 years (15 per cent for thoseover 65, and 20 per cent for those over 70 years). The Surcharge for avoiding privatehealth insurance will be increased to 1.25 per cent.

• Tier 3: for singles earning more than $120,000 (couples $240,000), no Private HealthInsurance Rebate will be provided. The Surcharge for avoiding private health insurancewill be increased to 1.5 per cent.

All income thresholds would continue to remain indexed to wages, keeping these changesfair and sustainable into the future.

These changes will affect around 10 per cent of Australian adults

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http://www.health.gov.au/internet/budget/publishing.nsf/Content/D150DB5236393187...

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Reply #26 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:37pm

I wonder if Abbott is going to help Australias wealthy insure their new Mercs and BMWs because if he doesnt they might drop their insurance.
Abbott reckons Australias wealthy are going to drop their health insurance simply because they cant suck at the teat of the poorest in our community..thats another blatent lie from Abbott.

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Reply #27 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:38pm

Abbott has already said he will wind back the policy if he wins Government and restore the rebate to high income earners.....The hole is getting bigger for the Mad Monk......Pretty soon budget revenue will be solely for the purpose of supporting the wealthy if Abbott keeps going the way he is.....Australia cannot afford Tony Abbott!!!

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Reply #28 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:40pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:22pm:

Well in his first opportunity to show what kind of backbone he had, Andrew Wilkie showed why both sides of politics think he has the spine of a jellyfish. Fresh from having his own legislation torpedoed and the raison d etre for support Gillard in the first place, broken, his first act is to support her in legislation he previously opposed.

The man is a wimp, with no apparent policy position. But then what do you expect from a man who finished in third place in his electorate on primaries yet has the audacity to make demands.

He is in the Rob Oakeshott mold of independent.

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Yet they are having more of an affect on policy than Tony Abbott who is opposing everything even good policies....Abbott has nothing to offer the Australian people!!!

how about we leave such assessments to the next electio where the voters will finally be able to cast THEIR judgment. do you expect ANY of those independents to survive? no one else does.

Shouldnt you wait until we see Abbotts policies and costings before you predict the make up of the next parliament?
So far he has to find more than 100 billion just to wind back all of Labors policies before he even starts on his own.

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Reply #29 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:43pm

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 12:22pm:

Well in his first opportunity to show what kind of backbone he had, Andrew Wilkie showed why both sides of politics think he has the spine of a jellyfish. Fresh from having his own legislation torpedoed and the raison d etre for support Gillard in the first place, broken, his first act is to support her in legislation he previously opposed.

The man is a wimp, with no apparent policy position. But then what do you expect from a man who finished in third place in his electorate on primaries yet has the audacity to make demands.

He is in the Rob Oakeshott mold of independent.

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Yet they are having more of an affect on policy than Tony Abbott who is opposing everything even good policies....Abbott has nothing to offer the Australian people!!!

I wish they were more like Tony Abbott. Maybe we would not be in so much debt. I so look forward to having to pay labor incompetency back.

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