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Reply #135 - Feb 16^th, 2012 at 8:41am

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:40pm:

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buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 7:40pm:

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When "Miss Piggy" Rinehart and "Porky" Palmer - the Rudds and the Turnbulls - are receiving government assistance to help them "make ends meet" on the cost of private medical insurance - there is OBVIOUSLY something VERY wrong with the Howard Government introduced rebate model

The portion of the health budget being given to the wealthy ( ... and MEGA-wealthy), could be WAY better allocated ELSEWHERE

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when a person like reinhardt whose personal income tax is more than the welfare bill of a small city, isnt entitled to a small and trivial rebate, then something is wrong.

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Dirty Paki Khunt Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103108	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #136 - Feb 16^th, 2012 at 8:59am skippy. wrote on Feb 16^th, 2012 at 8:26am: I see the screeching from the right is still at fever pitch, "how dare those socialists take away our welfare". It's class warfare. Andre has taken to calling his international tax-avoiding class his "demographic." And Matty is madly creating socks to agree.
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LDiorenderjustcallmeLD Ex Member	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #137 - Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:17am Expect to see a huge increase in company directors resigning from their boards to go and live on the dole at $16 a day. Instead of paying a few dollars extra for their premium healthcare coverage.
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LDiorenderjustcallmeLD Ex Member	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #138 - Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:21am It is in the Liberal Party's DNA- say's Mr Abbott . Extra taxpayer money for the rich to maintain their privileges over everyone else. American healthcare. Be aware.
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Reply #139 - Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:24am

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It is in the Liberal Party's DNA- say's Mr Abbott . Extra taxpayer money for the rich to maintain their privileges over everyone else. American healthcare.

Totally, totally not understanding people's point as usual.

It is not the 'rich' who suffer with this.

No Director is going to resign etc as your hysterical response notes.

It is those of us in the middle incomes, those of us struggling with a family, high interest rates, mortgages, children to send to school etc.

Those of us in the middle bracket of between $180,000 and $250,000 per annum single wage earner.

The Rich will not suffer. Those like my boss on $450k + 50% bonus are not going to give a monkey's toss about this change. He can afford it.

Those of us on the middle bracket - this is a big change.

Stop looking at it as "The Rich" - they will escape fine. We will not.

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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #140 - Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:28am Those of us on the middle bracket - this is a big change. Stop looking at it as "The Rich" - they will escape fine. We will not. Yes and start thinking about the poor.
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Dirty Paki Khunt Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103108	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #141 - Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:29am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:24am: Those of us in the middle bracket of between $180,000 and $250,000 per annum single wage earner. !
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Reply #142 - Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:30am

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when a person like Rinehart whose personal income tax is more than the welfare bill of a small city, isnt entitled to a small and trivial rebate, then something is wrong.

It is small and trivial to Gina Rinehart but it costs the budget billions of dollars a year.....I fail to see why you have any sympathy for people like her mate.....When some kid is waiting for an operation to save his life but must wait because the public system cannot cope I have no problem seeing the system changed to support people who NEED the help???

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/12805697/son-breaks-his-silence-in...

Mr Hancock said he was prompted to speak after his mother used a security consultancy report- code-named Project Tara - to argue that her four children and five grandchildren faced heightened security risks, including kidnapping, murder and terrorism as a result of publicity surrounding the case.

"I can support my wife and children in a modest manner from the work I do but I can't provide the level of funds required to deal with security issues - real or imagined - associated with being the son of a woman worth more than $20 billion," he said in a statement.

"When my mother buys a few hundred million dollars worth of Fairfax, it's going to draw some attention.

"But she won't share a penny to help protect her grandchildren from the risks she - the trustee of our family trust - is creating by her own actions.

"Even the production of this expensive report causes more problems - her very conduct puts us in more jeopardy.

"What more can I do than communicate to any kidnappers out there - over my dead body and you will be wasting your time anyway. If you think you're going to get anything from my mother, good luck."

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Andrei.Hicks

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Reply #143 - Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:30am

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Those of us on the middle bracket - this is a big change.

Stop looking at it as "The Rich" - they will escape fine. We will not.
Yes and start thinking about the poor. Sad

People are poor for a reason mate, usually their own doing.
I wasn't given any extra help by the Government in my life yet I knuckled down and attained the qualifications needed not to be a toilet cleaner.

There is too much "something for nothing" in today's society.
Look after yourself and then look to others.

I get sick and tired of sob stories from losers.

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Dirty Paki Khunt Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103108	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #144 - Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:31am And upper class specialist, Matty, is currently getting youth allowance of - How much are you getting, Matty?
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Reply #145 - Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:32am

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:29am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:24am:

Those of us in the middle bracket of between $180,000 and $250,000 per annum single wage earner.

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You add it up.
When living in Melbourne our mortgage was over $4,500 per month.
Add on school fees, health insurance, energy bills to run that home, petrol, two cars etc etc.

You would be surprised (well you shouldn't be) that it is NOT plain sailing on that wage by any means.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Private Health Means Test - Its PASSED Reply #146 - Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:33am Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:31am: And upper class specialist, Matty, is currently getting youth allowance of - How much are you getting, Matty? It's not about class. I am a working class kid. It's about fairness.
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Reply #147 - Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:37am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:33am:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:31am:

And upper class specialist, Matty, is currently getting youth allowance of -

How much are you getting, Matty?

It's not about class.
I am a working class kid. It's about fairness.

What about your current "demographic"?

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Reply #148 - Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:41am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:32am:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:29am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:24am:

Those of us in the middle bracket of between $180,000 and $250,000 per annum single wage earner.

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You add it up.
When living in Melbourne our mortgage was over $4,500 per month.
Add on school fees, health insurance, energy bills to run that home, petrol, two cars etc etc.

You would be surprised (well you shouldn't be) that it is NOT plain sailing on that wage by any means.

When you live beyond your means do not expect taxpayers to support your lifestyle.....I heard a couple in Sydney crying poor when the GFC hit because they could not afford to keep up the payments on their $750 000 dollar investment property.....I have no sympathy for people who think they are entitled because they are wealthy.....Pay for your own extravagant lifestyle or live within your means like the rest of us FFS!!!

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imcrookonit

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Reply #149 - Feb 16^th, 2012 at 9:41am

You add it up.
When living in Melbourne our mortgage was over $4,500 per month.
Add on school fees, health insurance, energy bills to run that home, petrol, two cars etc etc.

You would be surprised (well you shouldn't be) that it is NOT plain sailing on that wage by any means.
Is it plain sailing for someone on the minimum wage of $15.51 an hour?. I think you would be surprised also. Sad

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