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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21097 Perth Gender:	Re: The Coalitions Economic policies Reply #15 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 1:42pm The Liberal Faithful have an opportunity to debate the benefits of Abbott's economic policies and have remained silent.....Even they know Tony Abbott's policies he has said he will implement are complete crap and cannot be defended!!!
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Re: The Coalitions Economic policies
Reply #16 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 1:52pm

Well Im personally losing faith in the Liberal Party quickly.

Even though I oppose a Carbon Tax, I oppose direct action more. I support a carbon tax, with a government set price, over an ETS. In the market, the strong can manipulate the price and the weak suffer, thats not the results that one wants out of this.

Do not, repeat, do not dump the mining tax.

NBN, dont really care.

What I do want to see is a super profits tax on business. Im sick of seeing companies making billions crying poor.

I also want to see far greater accountability from government departments for "blowouts". You blow it out, you're out. Im sick of public servants throwing money away with ZERO accountability.

Come to think of it, I just want some serious accountability from Government full stop.

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Re: The Coalitions Economic policies
Reply #17 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 1:56pm

GoddyofOz wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 3:26am:

I didn't create this thread to smear the Coalition, I'm seriously just having trouble understanding what the **** their Economic policies are. I hear one thing from Hockey, another thing from Robb and nothing from Abbott.

I'm happy for someone to explain their policies to me, preferably without damaging your own credibility by trying to deflect it back towards Labor.

Any policies from the Coalition won't be written and costed for another year when they move from opposition mode into alternative government mode, so right now they are just flapping their gums.
It's Labors policies which are relevant right now.

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Re: The Coalitions Economic policies
Reply #18 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 2:08pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 1:56pm:

GoddyofOz wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 3:26am:

I didn't create this thread to smear the Coalition, I'm seriously just having trouble understanding what the **** their Economic policies are. I hear one thing from Hockey, another thing from Robb and nothing from Abbott.

I'm happy for someone to explain their policies to me, preferably without damaging your own credibility by trying to deflect it back towards Labor.

Any policies from the Coalition won't be written and costed for another year when they move from opposition mode into alternative government mode, so right now they are just flapping their gums.
It's Labors policies which are relevant right now.

Yet you will not debate the policies Abbott has already stated he will introduce.....why not???

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Re: The Coalitions Economic policies
Reply #19 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 2:25pm

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 2:08pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 1:56pm:

GoddyofOz wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 3:26am:

I didn't create this thread to smear the Coalition, I'm seriously just having trouble understanding what the **** their Economic policies are. I hear one thing from Hockey, another thing from Robb and nothing from Abbott.

I'm happy for someone to explain their policies to me, preferably without damaging your own credibility by trying to deflect it back towards Labor.

Any policies from the Coalition won't be written and costed for another year when they move from opposition mode into alternative government mode, so right now they are just flapping their gums.
It's Labors policies which are relevant right now.

Yet you will not debate the policies Abbott has already stated he will introduce.....why not???

Because he's a politician Phil.

I much prefer to see what a politician does rather than what he says.
Particularly when he says it so far out from an election.

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Re: The Coalitions Economic policies
Reply #20 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 2:38pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 2:25pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 2:08pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 1:56pm:

GoddyofOz wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 3:26am:

I didn't create this thread to smear the Coalition, I'm seriously just having trouble understanding what the **** their Economic policies are. I hear one thing from Hockey, another thing from Robb and nothing from Abbott.

I'm happy for someone to explain their policies to me, preferably without damaging your own credibility by trying to deflect it back towards Labor.

Any policies from the Coalition won't be written and costed for another year when they move from opposition mode into alternative government mode, so right now they are just flapping their gums.
It's Labors policies which are relevant right now.

Yet you will not debate the policies Abbott has already stated he will introduce.....why not???

Because he's a politician Phil.

I much prefer to see what a politician does rather than what he says.
Particularly when he says it so far out from an election.

In question time today Abbott suspended standing orders because he claimed the Prime Minister lied to the Australian people about the proposed changes to private health insurance (Not Julia Gillard as Kevin Rudd was leader) Yet before the 2010 election Julia Gillard flagged changes to the policy which is why Abbott had to refer to 2007.....All I can say is GST Mr Abbott.....what about the GST that Howard said he would never introduce and then took to a subsequent election.....Abbott is a total flake who is treating Parliament with contempt....The commitment was made by Kevin Rudd not Julia Gillard!!!

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Re: The Coalitions Economic policies
Reply #21 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 3:24pm

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 2:38pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 2:25pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 2:08pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 1:56pm:

GoddyofOz wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 3:26am:

I didn't create this thread to smear the Coalition, I'm seriously just having trouble understanding what the **** their Economic policies are. I hear one thing from Hockey, another thing from Robb and nothing from Abbott.

I'm happy for someone to explain their policies to me, preferably without damaging your own credibility by trying to deflect it back towards Labor.

Any policies from the Coalition won't be written and costed for another year when they move from opposition mode into alternative government mode, so right now they are just flapping their gums.
It's Labors policies which are relevant right now.

Yet you will not debate the policies Abbott has already stated he will introduce.....why not???

Because he's a politician Phil.

I much prefer to see what a politician does rather than what he says.
Particularly when he says it so far out from an election.

In question time today Abbott suspended standing orders because he claimed the Prime Minister lied to the Australian people about the proposed changes to private health insurance (Not Julia Gillard as Kevin Rudd was leader) Yet before the 2010 election Julia Gillard flagged changes to the policy which is why Abbott had to refer to 2007.....All I can say is GST Mr Abbott.....what about the GST that Howard said he would never introduce and then took to a subsequent election.....Abbott is a total flake who is treating Parliament with contempt....The commitment was made by Kevin Rudd not Julia Gillard!!!

So you are prepared to live by this standard phil?

Whereby you cannot quote anything that happened while Abbott was not the leader?!

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: The Coalitions Economic policies Reply #22 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 3:27pm Is it coincidence that - a) We were always better off under a Liberal Government. b) As soon as Labor came into power they took aim at the benefits we, as taxpaying citizens and a family unit, were getting. Labor does tend to focus on looking after losers.
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Re: The Coalitions Economic policies
Reply #23 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 6:28pm

Maqqa wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 3:24pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 2:38pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 2:25pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 2:08pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 1:56pm:

GoddyofOz wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 3:26am:

I didn't create this thread to smear the Coalition, I'm seriously just having trouble understanding what the **** their Economic policies are. I hear one thing from Hockey, another thing from Robb and nothing from Abbott.

I'm happy for someone to explain their policies to me, preferably without damaging your own credibility by trying to deflect it back towards Labor.

Any policies from the Coalition won't be written and costed for another year when they move from opposition mode into alternative government mode, so right now they are just flapping their gums.
It's Labors policies which are relevant right now.

Yet you will not debate the policies Abbott has already stated he will introduce.....why not???

Because he's a politician Phil.

I much prefer to see what a politician does rather than what he says.
Particularly when he says it so far out from an election.

In question time today Abbott suspended standing orders because he claimed the Prime Minister lied to the Australian people about the proposed changes to private health insurance (Not Julia Gillard as Kevin Rudd was leader) Yet before the 2010 election Julia Gillard flagged changes to the policy which is why Abbott had to refer to 2007.....All I can say is GST Mr Abbott.....what about the GST that Howard said he would never introduce and then took to a subsequent election.....Abbott is a total flake who is treating Parliament with contempt....The commitment was made by Kevin Rudd not Julia Gillard!!!

So you are prepared to live by this standard phil?

Whereby you cannot quote anything that happened while Abbott was not the leader?!

Are you???

Read what I said Macca......John Howard said he would never ever introduce the GST then went to the next election and introduced the GST......Kevin Rudd said he would not make changes to the private health rebate before the 2007 election.....Julia Gilllard went to the 2010 election saying she would make changes to the private health rebate so it is not a broken promise unless you want to also claim John Howard broke his commitment on the GST.....OK!!!

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Re: The Coalitions Economic policies
Reply #24 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 6:31pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 3:27pm:

Is it coincidence that -

a) We were always better off under a Liberal Government.

b) As soon as Labor came into power they took aim at the benefits we, as taxpaying citizens and a family unit, were getting.

Labor does tend to focus on looking after losers.

Yet taxes where higher and interest rates where higher under the Howard Government....despite the fact Australia is in the middle of a global financial crisis that Labor has been able to handle with astounding success!!!

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Re: The Coalitions Economic policies
Reply #25 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 6:31pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 1:56pm:

GoddyofOz wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 3:26am:

I didn't create this thread to smear the Coalition, I'm seriously just having trouble understanding what the **** their Economic policies are. I hear one thing from Hockey, another thing from Robb and nothing from Abbott.

I'm happy for someone to explain their policies to me, preferably without damaging your own credibility by trying to deflect it back towards Labor.

Any policies from the Coalition won't be written and costed for another year when they move from opposition mode into alternative government mode, so right now they are just flapping their gums.
It's Labors policies which are relevant right now.

Mr 1950s thinks he was born to rule, LOL!

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Re: The Coalitions Economic policies
Reply #26 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 6:34pm

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 2:38pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 2:25pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 2:08pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 1:56pm:

GoddyofOz wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 3:26am:

I didn't create this thread to smear the Coalition, I'm seriously just having trouble understanding what the **** their Economic policies are. I hear one thing from Hockey, another thing from Robb and nothing from Abbott.

I'm happy for someone to explain their policies to me, preferably without damaging your own credibility by trying to deflect it back towards Labor.

Any policies from the Coalition won't be written and costed for another year when they move from opposition mode into alternative government mode, so right now they are just flapping their gums.
It's Labors policies which are relevant right now.

Yet you will not debate the policies Abbott has already stated he will introduce.....why not???

Because he's a politician Phil.

I much prefer to see what a politician does rather than what he says.
Particularly when he says it so far out from an election.

In question time today Abbott suspended standing orders because he claimed the Prime Minister lied to the Australian people about the proposed changes to private health insurance (Not Julia Gillard as Kevin Rudd was leader) Yet before the 2010 election Julia Gillard flagged changes to the policy which is why Abbott had to refer to 2007.....All I can say is GST Mr Abbott.....what about the GST that Howard said he would never introduce and then took to a subsequent election.....Abbott is a total flake who is treating Parliament with contempt....The commitment was made by Kevin Rudd not Julia Gillard!!!

INYA GUTS YAKNOW HE'S NUTS!!

INYA GUTS YAKNOW HE'S NUTS!!

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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is. It wouldn't be there without the tax payer. Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know.... (swaggy) *

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Reply #27 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 6:36pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 3:27pm:

Is it coincidence that -

a) We were always better off under a Liberal Government.

b) As soon as Labor came into power they took aim at the benefits we, as taxpaying citizens and a family unit, were getting.

Labor does tend to focus on looking after losers.

GO AWAY WAR MONGER!!

DID YOU KNOW THE WORLD LAUGHS AT THE IMPOTENCE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS..., BEFORE REALISING THEY MAKE A GREAT TARGET??

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Reply #28 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 6:40pm

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 6:31pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 3:27pm:

Is it coincidence that -

a) We were always better off under a Liberal Government.

b) As soon as Labor came into power they took aim at the benefits we, as taxpaying citizens and a family unit, were getting.

Labor does tend to focus on looking after losers.

Yet taxes where higher and interest rates where higher under the Howard Government....despite the fact Australia is in the middle of a global financial crisis that Labor has been able to handle with astounding success!!!

BE CAREFUL, if Andrei gets angry he will might will want to do something to you with his impotent nucler weapons!

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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is. It wouldn't be there without the tax payer. Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know.... (swaggy) *

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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: The Coalitions Economic policies Reply #29 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 6:45pm Is it coincidence that - a) We were always better off under a Liberal Government. Were we?. What about work choices (No choices )
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