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Question: Should we be launching satellites?

yes    
  5 (55.6%)
no    
  4 (44.4%)




Total votes: 9
« Created by: Bobby. on: Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:02pm »

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Reply #75 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:00pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 11:39am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 11:34am:
You sound gay.

You sound like you jerk off after you think you have won an argument Cheesy LOL

I don't recall you winning anything ever.





That's better, back to personal abuse to support your feeble arguments.  Grin


For a minute there I was scared you would continue to defeat me at every turn with your masterful use of the rubber / glue gambit, I thank you for showing me mercy.  Grin




How about driving a jeep wankler only 10k's a week in order to avoid the rising cost of fossil fool.

I think you well and truly won that argument Smiley LOL
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Reply #76 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:02pm
 
I added a poll:

Should we be launching satellites?
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Reply #77 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:03pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:00pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 11:21am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 11:09am:
Big ol wanker is only satisfied when everyone is taking it up the arse that is why he is so against electric vehicles and the manufacture thereof. And what was big ol wankers solution to the rising cost of fossil fools ??

Lets see. Hmm. It went something like:-

By a jeep wrangler  and only drive 10 k's a week Cheesy LOL

That's really helpful to the majority who drive 50k's to work each day through peak hour stop start traffic.

What a visionary Big ol wanker Sad

Apparently I have lost the argument for the manufacture of EV's in this country Wink



I'm not against  EV's, actually looking forward to HFC EVs, I am against whiny little b1tches constantly harping on about sh1t they know very little about.

Since when did my job description include visionary?

Actually my mileage increased just recently to 1000 kms a week, more than happy to pay for fuel; fat lot of good a battery EV would have done me, hey. Thats the flexible application of the internal combustion engine at work.

In all the years you have whinged about EV's and now space rockets, I have not seen one person consider your argument as valid and reasonable, not one person has concluded that you have made a worthwhile contribution to these boards.

You must feel like a winner.  Grin




One person?

Nail & I agree - that's 2 people plus all the wall flowers who have no comment.




We'll see if it's one person big dick!
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Re: Iran Launches Satellite but we can't do this !
Reply #78 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:12pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 11:11am:
... wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 11:01am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 10:11pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 5:06pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 4:52pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 12:43pm:
Mostly that we don't enough space work to justify building (or in the case of Woomera, REbuilding) a space launch centre of our own.....
Billions of dollars in infrastructure and employees for something that would only be used a couple of times a decade....Can you imagine the howls about government waste??? It be even worse than the screaming about the money given to the car makers....

It's far easier and cheaper to rent the space and time from the NASA or the European space agencies.....
And before you say it....Iran HAD to build their own, because no one is likely to help them, or allow them to launch military hardware, given the current world opinion of the Iranian Government....


What do you mean we don't have enough space ?? How much space do you need ??

You are an idiot. Stop wasting my time with your pathetic attempts at being contrary.


Space WORK nails..not space on the ground....

We don't launch enough space hardware to justify it....

It's not like we have a moon landing program or anything......we launched the occasion satellite, but no capsules, shuttles or manned craft....

And it's not being 'contrary' when you correct someone who keeps saying that 2+2=5.....it's just being realistic...


so you don't consider launching satellites or other payloads for other countries an incentive ??

Maybe the chinese and the US shouldn't do that either. They should knock back requests from other countries to launch payloads into space because some brain dead moron in Australia thinks it's a bad idea.



The very fact that the US and China, among others are already sending satellites into space commercially just makes it even less economical.  Theres a limited market for satellites you know.  For Oz to get in on the rcaket, they'd need to set up the whole operation, costing 10s of billions. 
Meanwhile, the americans and chinese, with their existing facilities, and existing customers have the business sewn up for years to come.  How are we going to recoup the cost of the infrastructure?


ahhh why do we bother?


The chinese launching satellitres is only a recent event. What was your excuse before the chinks got involved ??

Why would the chinese bother when the yanks could have done it ?? Why bother ??


April 24th1970 is recent???
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Reply #79 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:13pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:02pm:
I added a poll:

Should we be launching satellites?


Since you left out the fact that we have done and currently do....your poll is useless...
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Reply #80 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:31pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:13pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:02pm:
I added a poll:

Should we be launching satellites?


Since you left out the fact that we have done and currently do....your poll is useless...



Don't think we've done much for quite a while:

http://australia_space.rossjsmith.com/aus_sat_covers.htm
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Reply #81 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:56pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:13pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:02pm:
I added a poll:

Should we be launching satellites?


Since you left out the fact that we have done and currently do....your poll is useless...


so where are the launch facilities ?
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Re: Iran Launches Satellite but we can't do this !
Reply #82 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 1:33pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:31pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:13pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:02pm:
I added a poll:

Should we be launching satellites?


Since you left out the fact that we have done and currently do....your poll is useless...



Don't think we've done much for quite a while:

http://australia_space.rossjsmith.com/aus_sat_covers.htm


But that's not what the poll asks....

"Should be be launching our own satellites" would imply our own facilities, but as it is written.....everytime an Australian owned satellite goes up, we've launched it...
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Re: Iran Launches Satellite but we can't do this !
Reply #83 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 2:13pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 1:33pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:31pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:13pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:02pm:
I added a poll:

Should we be launching satellites?


Since you left out the fact that we have done and currently do....your poll is useless...



Don't think we've done much for quite a while:

http://australia_space.rossjsmith.com/aus_sat_covers.htm


But that's not what the poll asks....

"Should be be launching our own satellites" would imply our own facilities, but as it is written.....everytime an Australian owned satellite goes up, we've launched it...


launched from where ?? Is it from an Australian launch site using Australian rocket technology ??

As the original video displays Iran has launched their own satellite.

anyway which ever way you interpret it you would still vote no because you are a dead beat.
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Reply #84 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 2:15pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 1:33pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:31pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:13pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:02pm:
I added a poll:

Should we be launching satellites?


Since you left out the fact that we have done and currently do....your poll is useless...



Don't think we've done much for quite a while:

http://australia_space.rossjsmith.com/aus_sat_covers.htm


But that's not what the poll asks....

"Should we be launching our own satellites" would imply our own facilities, but as it is written.....everytime an Australian owned satellite goes up, we've launched it...



OK - the poll should read:
should we be making & launching our own satellites from Australian soil
using our own technology?
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Reply #85 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 2:19pm
 
no wonder the US and israel want to attack these

persians

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Re: Iran Launches Satellite but we can't do this !
Reply #86 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 2:21pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 2:15pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 1:33pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:31pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:13pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:02pm:
I added a poll:

Should we be launching satellites?


Since you left out the fact that we have done and currently do....your poll is useless...



Don't think we've done much for quite a while:

http://australia_space.rossjsmith.com/aus_sat_covers.htm


But that's not what the poll asks....

"Should we be launching our own satellites" would imply our own facilities, but as it is written.....every time an Australian owned satellite goes up, we've launched it...



OK - the poll should read:
should we be making & launching our own satellites from Australian soil
using our own technology?


Or even 'should we be launching satellites from Australia' would do...

That's why I said it was no use as it was...
Even if we pay NASA to launch an Australian built/owned satellite, we ARE launching it...just because we're paying NASA to deliver it to orbit, doesn't stop it from being our launch....

If you send a package by courier, do you no longer own the package, when it's in the couriers vehicle????
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Reply #87 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 2:37pm
 
Even if we pay NASA to launch an Australian built/owned satellite, we ARE launching it...just because we're paying NASA to deliver it to orbit, doesn't stop it from being our launch....

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thats quite a stretch

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Reply #88 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 3:14pm
 
[quote author=0A173C0A103C170B063C0F0A040B17630 link=1328534190/87#87 date=1328762264]Even if we pay NASA to launch an Australian built/owned satellite, we ARE launching it...just because we're paying NASA to deliver it to orbit, doesn't stop it from being our launch....

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thats quite a stretch

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Reply #89 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 3:41pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 2:15pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 1:33pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:31pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:13pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:02pm:
I added a poll:

Should we be launching satellites?


Since you left out the fact that we have done and currently do....your poll is useless...



Don't think we've done much for quite a while:

http://australia_space.rossjsmith.com/aus_sat_covers.htm


But that's not what the poll asks....

"Should we be launching our own satellites" would imply our own facilities, but as it is written.....everytime an Australian owned satellite goes up, we've launched it...



OK - the poll should read:
should we be making & launching our own satellites from Australian soil
using our own technology?


Edit the pole bobby otherwise the idiot will be looking for any loophole to argue the contrary Sad
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