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Conservative and racist beliefs linked to low IQ
Feb 4^th, 2012 at 12:44pm

Well - whodda thunk it? Grin

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/intelligence-study-links-prejudice_n_12...

Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice, he told LiveScience.

Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added.

Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments.

"Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies."

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/484284/thumbs/r-RACISM-IQ-large570.jpg

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Reply #2 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:47pm

I think it sounds great but there are a few questions. Is the average IQ not increasing a few percent with each generation. So how do you explain that the general population are scared of their own shadow and flocking to ultra conservative dogma. Both major parties in this country are very conservative. Any suggestion of progressive values is attacked relentlessly by the media and business.
Then you have the contradiction where the sheep are accepting extreme insecurity in the work place in return for their little bag of gold. Personally i find the population are generally ignorant, don't understand the issues and tie everything to money in their pocket. Life has no meaning to them other wise concepts like deforestation and endanger species would be on the concern list. The truth is they don't care so long as their pocket is full. They would buy an Australian made shoe rather than feed big money to companies that exploit third world workers then pay the few executives big bonuses in the Uass. WE are dumb plain and simple.

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Reply #3 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:52pm

I have 2 degrees, a Masters and am a qualified member of the ICAEW.

I am a Conservative in my core beliefs.

All of this from hard work and getting nothing from a Government.

Yet all the time the Governments are trying to bring the lower people up in education and failing.

Strange eh?
Someone with conservative beliefs can succeed against the odds and yet others fail despite getting so much more.

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Reply #4 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:56pm

Grey wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 12:44pm:

Well - whodda thunk it? Grin

Quote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/intelligence-study-links-prejudice_n_12...

Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice, he told LiveScience.

Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added.

Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments.

"Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies."

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/484284/thumbs/r-RACISM-IQ-large570.jpg

And 'conservative ideologies' in that context means more like fundamental religious beliefs than conservative politics...

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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Conservative and racist beliefs linked to low IQ Reply #5 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:00pm Would you expect anything else from the huff and puff lefty media drongos. Dont forget to bow to the rich man Sorass
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Reply #6 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:10pm

The very intelligent and the very dumb tend to be conservative and/or racists, albeit for different reasons, and it obviously mainfests in different ways.
The unremarkable, average joe schlubs just go along with the groupthink. The bloke even touches on this in the article:

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"Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies."

But being from the huffington post, you'd expect them to spin it that way.

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Reply #7 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:18pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:52pm:

I have 2 degrees, a Masters and am a qualified member of the ICAEW.

I am a Conservative in my core beliefs.

All of this from hard work and getting nothing from a Government.

Yet all the time the Governments are trying to bring the lower people up in education and failing.

Strange eh?
Someone with conservative beliefs can succeed against the odds and yet others fail despite getting so much more.

Your a bloody bean counter Grin

Now i have your 'dregs of the earth' status confirmed Grin

Just because you have a job and can use a calculator means little on the intelligence levels. some of the most brilliant are homeless even a mind like Einstein was a clerk. Intelligence usually allows a much more holistic view of the world and deeper understanding of human nature than the bigotted poor me version you have.

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 22850 A cat with a view	Re: Conservative and racist beliefs linked to low IQ Reply #8 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 3:14pm ......duh, wot ya says ????? You calling me a conservative!!!? That is an outrageous slur.
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Reply #9 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 3:35pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:52pm:

I have 2 degrees, a Masters and am a qualified member of the ICAEW.

I am a Conservative in my core beliefs.

All of this from hard work and getting nothing from a Government.

Yet all the time the Governments are trying to bring the lower people up in education and failing.

Strange eh?
Someone with conservative beliefs can succeed against the odds and yet others fail despite getting so much more.

The research is a generalisation. It's not claiming that all conservatives have lower IQs, just that on average, it is the case.

eg: On average, men are taller than women. That doesn't mean that a woman can't be the tallest person in a room at some point.

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Reply #10 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 4:43pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:52pm:

I have 2 degrees, a Masters and am a qualified member of the ICAEW.

I am a Conservative in my core beliefs.

Yeah, but there are degrees, and there are real degrees.

If you had a degree in dance, visual arts or accounting, I might not be as impressed as I would be if you had a degree in anthropology, history or say physics.

I used to be a conservative. No joke. I was a big proponent of the Liberal party. There were times when I supported Jeff Kennett and John Howard, and encouraged others to vote for them.

I stopped being a conservative in the late '90s. Then I learnt 2 foreign languages. I got my high school certificate via correspondence, while working up to 60 hours per week. Then I went to university got a degree graduating with high distinction honours. I am undertaking a masters degree.

By the grace of God, I certainly seemed to have gotten more educated since I stopped being a conservative.

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Reply #11 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 4:48pm

Grey wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 12:44pm:

Well - whodda thunk it? Grin

Quote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/intelligence-study-links-prejudice_n_12...

Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice, he told LiveScience.

Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added.

Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments.

"Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies."

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/484284/thumbs/r-RACISM-IQ-large570.jpg

So does this apply to the racists in the academe and leftists in general? Because most hold anti-white views.
But let me guess, it only applies to white racists.

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Reply #13 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 5:08pm

falah wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 4:43pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:52pm:

I have 2 degrees, a Masters and am a qualified member of the ICAEW.

I am a Conservative in my core beliefs.

Yeah, but there are degrees, and there are real degrees.

If you had a degree in dance, visual arts or accounting, I might not be as impressed as I would be if you had a degree in anthropology, history or say physics.

I used to be a conservative. No joke. I was a big proponent of the Liberal party. There were times when I supported Jeff Kennett and John Howard, and encouraged others to vote for them.

I stopped being a conservative in the late '90s. Then I learnt 2 foreign languages. I got my high school certificate via correspondence, while working up to 60 hours per week. Then I went to university got a degree graduating with high distinction honours. I am undertaking a masters degree.

By the grace of God, I certainly seemed to have gotten more educated since I stopped being a conservative.

You're a perfect example of where a higher education doesn't equate to intelligence.
Take your rants on violence in the Middle East. Every time it's the West's fault. Even the Egyptian soccer riots you blamed on the West. You have no conception of responsibility.
Not only that, there's something about higher education that makes one turn against their own country (all the while being funded by those you turn against). "Intelligence" in the academe seems to mean "criticize the West or Australia with impunity and side with non-Western countries and peoples." With this "amazing" insight, they then think that they're morally and intellectually superior to all those who support Australia and the West, namely, the conservatives.

In reality, it is a sign of intellectual retardation to turn against one's culture. To set about to destroy the very country and culture that feeds, clothes, and protects you is tantamount to complete idiocy. There's nothing morally or intellectually superior in supporting backward cultures that can't even feed themselves, won't allow women to be educated, won't support innovation and technology, and are in constant civil war.

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Reply #14 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 5:30pm

falah wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 4:43pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:52pm:

I have 2 degrees, a Masters and am a qualified member of the ICAEW.

I am a Conservative in my core beliefs.

Yeah, but there are degrees, and there are real degrees.

If you had a degree in dance, visual arts or accounting, I might not be as impressed as I would be if you had a degree in anthropology, history or say physics.

I used to be a conservative. No joke. I was a big proponent of the Liberal party. There were times when I supported Jeff Kennett and John Howard, and encouraged others to vote for them.

I stopped being a conservative in the late '90s. Then I learnt 2 foreign languages. I got my high school certificate via correspondence, while working up to 60 hours per week. Then I went to university got a degree graduating with high distinction honours. I am undertaking a masters degree.

By the grace of God, I certainly seemed to have gotten more educated since I stopped being a conservative.

Bet you aren't doing your Masters on the English language.

As for the rest of your post.

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