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Question: Should we be launching satellites?

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« Created by: Bobby. on: Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:02pm »

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Reply #45 - Feb 8th, 2012 at 12:43pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 10:54am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 7:57am:
Yes, we did continue, our latest satellite was launched in 2003, and there are 2 more under construction in the US...

http://www.asri.org.au/australianspace/satellites


No rocket technology and no launch capabilities of  course. Why not ?? Here come the manufactured excuses to manufacture nothing Sad

Your excuse for this is what ??

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US firm pace Systems/Loral wins $620m NBN contract

US firm Space Systems/Loral has won the $620 million contract for two satellites to provide high-speed broadband to areas in remote Australia.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard, Communications Minister Stephen Conroy and NBN Co chief Mike Quigley made the announcement in Canberra today.

The subsidiary of California-based group Loral Space and Communications, will launch two satellites to provide high-speed internet by 2015 under the national broadband network (NBN).

NBN Co is the federal government-owned enterprise charged with rolling out fibre optic cable broadband to 93 per cent of Australia's 13 million homes, schools and businesses by 2021.

Fixed wireless technology will provide high-speed internet to four per cent of premises while the remaining three per cent will be supplied by satellite technology to remote areas.peSenator Stephen Conroy said Australians were a step closer to fast and affordable broadband services.

"This will ensure high speed broadband is delivered to Australia's remotest towns, such as Calvert in the Northern Territory and Bandya in Western Australia,'' he said in a statement.

Mr Quigley said the satellites were designed to deliver initial peak speeds of 12 megabytes download and one megabyte upload.

"It will be possible for retail service providers to offer services to homes and businesses in the satellite footprint that are as good or better than the services many city people currently experience,'' he said.
Space Systems/Loral president John Celli said the two companies shared a commitment to the highest quality performance.

"We're delighted to play a part in helping to deliver much-needed hi-speed broadband communities in regional and remote areas,'' he said.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/us-firm-wins-620m-nbn-contract/story-e6frfku0-1226265579248#ixzz1lkRVklFc




Mostly that we don't enough space work to justify building (or in the case of Woomera, REbuilding) a space launch centre of our own.....
Billions of dollars in infrastructure and employees for something that would only be used a couple of times a decade....Can you imagine the howls about government waste??? It be even worse than the screaming about the money given to the car makers....

It's far easier and cheaper to rent the space and time from the NASA or the European space agencies.....
And before you say it....Iran HAD to build their own, because no one is likely to help them, or allow them to launch military hardware, given the current world opinion of the Iranian Government....
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Reply #46 - Feb 8th, 2012 at 1:42pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 12:43pm:
Mostly that we don't enough space work to justify building (or in the case of Woomera, REbuilding) a space launch centre of our own.....
Billions of dollars in infrastructure and employees for something that would only be used a couple of times a decade....Can you imagine the howls about government waste??? It be even worse than the screaming about the money given to the car makers....

It's far easier and cheaper to rent the space and time from the NASA or the European space agencies.....
And before you say it....Iran HAD to build their own, because no one is likely to help them, or allow them to launch military hardware, given the current world opinion of the Iranian Government....



Geez there ya go bringin in rational debate to counter nail's mindless rants.

The only thing that matters is that we're a luddite country because we don't launch rockets into space.

The fact we don't need them and they're bloody expensive is irrelevant.

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Reply #47 - Feb 8th, 2012 at 1:48pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 1:42pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 12:43pm:
Mostly that we don't enough space work to justify building (or in the case of Woomera, REbuilding) a space launch centre of our own.....
Billions of dollars in infrastructure and employees for something that would only be used a couple of times a decade....Can you imagine the howls about government waste??? It be even worse than the screaming about the money given to the car makers....

It's far easier and cheaper to rent the space and time from the NASA or the European space agencies.....
And before you say it....Iran HAD to build their own, because no one is likely to help them, or allow them to launch military hardware, given the current world opinion of the Iranian Government....



Geez there ya go bringin in rational debate to counter nail's mindless rants.

The only thing that matters is that we're a luddite country because we don't launch rockets into space.

The fact we don't need them and they're bloody expensive is irrelevant.




Oh rats...yeah sorry...I forgot and tried to use logic and rational thought....Should have remembered it was Bobby/Lastnails I was talking too....
My bad...
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Reply #48 - Feb 8th, 2012 at 2:49pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 1:48pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 1:42pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 12:43pm:
Mostly that we don't enough space work to justify building (or in the case of Woomera, REbuilding) a space launch centre of our own.....
Billions of dollars in infrastructure and employees for something that would only be used a couple of times a decade....Can you imagine the howls about government waste??? It be even worse than the screaming about the money given to the car makers....

It's far easier and cheaper to rent the space and time from the NASA or the European space agencies.....
And before you say it....Iran HAD to build their own, because no one is likely to help them, or allow them to launch military hardware, given the current world opinion of the Iranian Government....



Geez there ya go bringin in rational debate to counter nail's mindless rants.

The only thing that matters is that we're a luddite country because we don't launch rockets into space.

The fact we don't need them and they're bloody expensive is irrelevant.




Oh rats...yeah sorry...I forgot and tried to use logic and rational thought....Should have remembered it was Bobby/Lastnails I was talking too....
My bad...



Gizmo & Bigol -
get a life & stop arguing the contrary point of view just for the sake of it.

You know that Nail is right.
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Reply #49 - Feb 8th, 2012 at 3:07pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 2:49pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 1:48pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 1:42pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 12:43pm:
Mostly that we don't enough space work to justify building (or in the case of Woomera, REbuilding) a space launch centre of our own.....
Billions of dollars in infrastructure and employees for something that would only be used a couple of times a decade....Can you imagine the howls about government waste??? It be even worse than the screaming about the money given to the car makers....

It's far easier and cheaper to rent the space and time from the NASA or the European space agencies.....
And before you say it....Iran HAD to build their own, because no one is likely to help them, or allow them to launch military hardware, given the current world opinion of the Iranian Government....



Geez there ya go bringin in rational debate to counter nail's mindless rants.

The only thing that matters is that we're a luddite country because we don't launch rockets into space.

The fact we don't need them and they're bloody expensive is irrelevant.




Oh rats...yeah sorry...I forgot and tried to use logic and rational thought....Should have remembered it was Bobby/Lastnails I was talking too....
My bad...



Gizmo & Bigol -
get a life & stop arguing the contrary point of view just for the sake of it.

You know that Nail is right.


Sorry Bobby..I HAVE a life....and nothing Nails has ever said was 'right'.....
My views are my views...and aren't 'contrary fo the sake of it'....
They might be contrary to yours and nails...but that's just because you two are wrong, stupid and uneducated.....
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Reply #50 - Feb 8th, 2012 at 3:08pm
 


That Australia has NEVER been in the space race; well with the help of Google and 10 minutes to spare I PROVED that nail was wrong.

It's all well and good to jump up and down like 2 yr old on crack about all sorts of issues, this like so many of his rants doesn't seem to have a point.

Yes we don't have a space program; we can't afford one

Yes we don't have advanced Tech industries; and?

Yes nail and bobby always believe nail is ALWAYS right about everything; little evidence is submitted to prove that hypothesis, if fact most evidence is to the contrary

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Reply #51 - Feb 8th, 2012 at 4:38pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 1:42pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 12:43pm:
Mostly that we don't enough space work to justify building (or in the case of Woomera, REbuilding) a space launch centre of our own.....
Billions of dollars in infrastructure and employees for something that would only be used a couple of times a decade....Can you imagine the howls about government waste??? It be even worse than the screaming about the money given to the car makers....

It's far easier and cheaper to rent the space and time from the NASA or the European space agencies.....
And before you say it....Iran HAD to build their own, because no one is likely to help them, or allow them to launch military hardware, given the current world opinion of the Iranian Government....



Geez there ya go bringin in rational debate to counter nail's mindless rants.

The only thing that matters is that we're a luddite country because we don't launch rockets into space.

The fact we don't need them and they're bloody expensive is irrelevant.



here we go again, manufacturing excuses not to manufacture anything.

How long would a useless imbecile such as yourself last in china ? What could someone like you possibly offer them ?
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Reply #52 - Feb 8th, 2012 at 4:40pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 3:08pm:
That Australia has NEVER been in the space race; well with the help of Google and 10 minutes to spare I PROVED that nail was wrong.

It's all well and good to jump up and down like 2 yr old on crack about all sorts of issues, this like so many of his rants doesn't seem to have a point.

Yes we don't have a space program; we can't afford one

Yes we don't have advanced Tech industries; and?

Yes nail and bobby always believe nail is ALWAYS right about everything; little evidence is submitted to prove that hypothesis, if fact most evidence is to the contrary



but we are the economic envy of the world and we can't afford to be part of the space race but we can dump trillions into overpriced old junk property Cheesy LOL
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Reply #53 - Feb 8th, 2012 at 4:43pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 3:07pm:
Sorry Bobby..I HAVE a life....and nothing Nails has ever said was 'right'.....
My views are my views...and aren't 'contrary fo the sake of it'....
They might be contrary to yours and nails...but that's just because you two are wrong, stupid and uneducated.....


What am I not right right in ??

The context of this thread is about Iran launching a satellite and we can't do this. Which part of the thread topic do you have trouble understanding ??

To add to that, we have to go cap in hand to the yanks and pay them over 600 mill to launch two communications satellites for the NBN !!
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Reply #54 - Feb 8th, 2012 at 4:52pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 12:43pm:
Mostly that we don't enough space work to justify building (or in the case of Woomera, REbuilding) a space launch centre of our own.....
Billions of dollars in infrastructure and employees for something that would only be used a couple of times a decade....Can you imagine the howls about government waste??? It be even worse than the screaming about the money given to the car makers....

It's far easier and cheaper to rent the space and time from the NASA or the European space agencies.....
And before you say it....Iran HAD to build their own, because no one is likely to help them, or allow them to launch military hardware, given the current world opinion of the Iranian Government....


What do you mean we don't have enough space ?? How much space do you need ??

You are an idiot. Stop wasting my time with your pathetic attempts at being contrary.
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Reply #55 - Feb 8th, 2012 at 5:06pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 4:52pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 12:43pm:
Mostly that we don't enough space work to justify building (or in the case of Woomera, REbuilding) a space launch centre of our own.....
Billions of dollars in infrastructure and employees for something that would only be used a couple of times a decade....Can you imagine the howls about government waste??? It be even worse than the screaming about the money given to the car makers....

It's far easier and cheaper to rent the space and time from the NASA or the European space agencies.....
And before you say it....Iran HAD to build their own, because no one is likely to help them, or allow them to launch military hardware, given the current world opinion of the Iranian Government....


What do you mean we don't have enough space ?? How much space do you need ??

You are an idiot. Stop wasting my time with your pathetic attempts at being contrary.


Space WORK nails..not space on the ground....

We don't launch enough space hardware to justify it....

It's not like we have a moon landing program or anything......we launched the occasion satellite, but no capsules, shuttles or manned craft....

And it's not being 'contrary' when you correct someone who keeps saying that 2+2=5.....it's just being realistic...
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Reply #56 - Feb 8th, 2012 at 7:54pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 4:52pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 12:43pm:
Mostly that we don't enough space work to justify building (or in the case of Woomera, REbuilding) a space launch centre of our own.....
Billions of dollars in infrastructure and employees for something that would only be used a couple of times a decade....Can you imagine the howls about government waste??? It be even worse than the screaming about the money given to the car makers....

It's far easier and cheaper to rent the space and time from the NASA or the European space agencies.....
And before you say it....Iran HAD to build their own, because no one is likely to help them, or allow them to launch military hardware, given the current world opinion of the Iranian Government....


What do you mean we don't have enough space ?? How much space do you need ??

You are an idiot. Stop wasting my time with your pathetic attempts at being contrary.



Nail - they are just wasting our time.
I think I'll spend more time contributing to technical forums
rather than here with all the luddites.
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Reply #57 - Feb 8th, 2012 at 10:11pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 5:06pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 4:52pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 12:43pm:
Mostly that we don't enough space work to justify building (or in the case of Woomera, REbuilding) a space launch centre of our own.....
Billions of dollars in infrastructure and employees for something that would only be used a couple of times a decade....Can you imagine the howls about government waste??? It be even worse than the screaming about the money given to the car makers....

It's far easier and cheaper to rent the space and time from the NASA or the European space agencies.....
And before you say it....Iran HAD to build their own, because no one is likely to help them, or allow them to launch military hardware, given the current world opinion of the Iranian Government....


What do you mean we don't have enough space ?? How much space do you need ??

You are an idiot. Stop wasting my time with your pathetic attempts at being contrary.


Space WORK nails..not space on the ground....

We don't launch enough space hardware to justify it....

It's not like we have a moon landing program or anything......we launched the occasion satellite, but no capsules, shuttles or manned craft....

And it's not being 'contrary' when you correct someone who keeps saying that 2+2=5.....it's just being realistic...


so you don't consider launching satellites or other payloads for other countries an incentive ??

Maybe the chinese and the US shouldn't do that either. They should knock back requests from other countries to launch payloads into space because some brain dead moron in Australia thinks it's a bad idea.




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Reply #58 - Feb 8th, 2012 at 10:15pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 7:54pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 4:52pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 12:43pm:
Mostly that we don't enough space work to justify building (or in the case of Woomera, REbuilding) a space launch centre of our own.....
Billions of dollars in infrastructure and employees for something that would only be used a couple of times a decade....Can you imagine the howls about government waste??? It be even worse than the screaming about the money given to the car makers....

It's far easier and cheaper to rent the space and time from the NASA or the European space agencies.....
And before you say it....Iran HAD to build their own, because no one is likely to help them, or allow them to launch military hardware, given the current world opinion of the Iranian Government....


What do you mean we don't have enough space ?? How much space do you need ??

You are an idiot. Stop wasting my time with your pathetic attempts at being contrary.



Nail - they are just wasting our time.
I think I'll spend more time contributing to technical forums
rather than here with all the luddites.


Note how the same brain dead f,ckwits always reply with the same brain dead lame excuses not to do anything.

These people would be destitute in countries without social security simply because they would be unemployable. Honestly, what would you employ them to do ?? They couldn't even pulverise sheep sh.t !!

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Reply #59 - Feb 8th, 2012 at 10:29pm
 
Nail,
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Note how the same brain dead f,ckwits always reply with the
same brain dead lame excuses not to do anything.

These people would be destitute in countries without social security
simply because they would be unemployable. Honestly,
what would you employ them to do ??
They couldn't even pulverise sheep sh.t !!



I would employ none of them.
I want to see a high tech Australia in a new economy -
not just digging stuff out of the ground -
I want to see value adding -
I want to see science -
rockets firing into space with satelites -
6 submarines  sailing away & not in dry dock being repaired
for 98% of their lives.

This country needs a kick in the backside.
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