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Reply #30 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 5:09pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 4:59pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:46pm:

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:22pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:05pm:

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

The chinks would do do it becasue a) they've already spent the $$$ and b) their satellite needs are likely to be much greater than ours.

You do understand that what suits china might not necessarily suit other countries? Should samoa have it's own space program?

what a load of bullshit. The french and the poms have been launching satellites from as early as the 1960's.

Yes, indeed they have. Your point?

you have no excuses as to why Australia never entered the space race apart from the fact that we talk big but do nothing.

I think you are confusing Australia with YOURSELF.

Australia never entered the space race because we needed the money for other things like nation building, because others that are allies are doing it well and it is cheaper for us because our need is so small to pay them and the excessive cost made the program illogical for a nation with limited financial resources also. Considering we have a net debt to GDP ratio of 8% while most of Europe and the Uass all are at about 60% such selfish and indulgent spending would be stupid.

Most of this sounds like penis envy to me. What a pack of prats. They have one and so should I, or is it more sinister than that is it bigoted hate and a determination that the people of Iran must be dumb. Persia has been one of the greatest empires with some of the most interesting philosophers.

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Reply #31 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 8:19pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 2:04pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:05pm:

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

The chinks would do do it becasue a) they've already spent the $$$ and b) their satellite needs are likely to be much greater than ours.

You do understand that what suits china might not necessarily suit other countries? Should samoa have it's own space program?

what a load of bullshit. The french and the poms have been launching satellites from as early as the 1960's.

Yes nails....but they don't launch from their own countries...
The British 'Black Arrow' launch vehicles from the 1960's/1970's (the first British satellite launches) all took place in Woomera in SA...

ALL of the British satellites have been launched by other countries....Australia, the US and an Italian owned floating space centre of the coast of Kenya...

There are NO launch facilities in Britain

so what happened after the poms vacated Australia ?? Did the aussies continue on with the program or did they do what they did with cars and rely on foreign corporations to run the show ??

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Reply #32 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 8:23pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 3:11pm:

Nail is right again.
We should be part of the space race &
not just a quarry for the Chinese.

Nails is WRONG again...we ARE part of the 'space race'...

Many countries were part of the space race if you include those 3rd world countries that hosted telemetry stations so the capsule pilots could communicate with the ground stations. But that doesn't mean they were part of any hi tech development.

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Reply #33 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 8:26pm

nairbe wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 5:09pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 4:59pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:46pm:

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:22pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:05pm:

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

The chinks would do do it becasue a) they've already spent the $$$ and b) their satellite needs are likely to be much greater than ours.

You do understand that what suits china might not necessarily suit other countries? Should samoa have it's own space program?

what a load of bullshit. The french and the poms have been launching satellites from as early as the 1960's.

Yes, indeed they have. Your point?

you have no excuses as to why Australia never entered the space race apart from the fact that we talk big but do nothing.

I think you are confusing Australia with YOURSELF.

Australia never entered the space race because we needed the money for other things like nation building, because others that are allies are doing it well and it is cheaper for us because our need is so small to pay them and the excessive cost made the program illogical for a nation with limited financial resources also. Considering we have a net debt to GDP ratio of 8% while most of Europe and the Uass all are at about 60% such selfish and indulgent spending would be stupid.

Most of this sounds like penis envy to me. What a pack of prats. They have one and so should I, or is it more sinister than that is it bigoted hate and a determination that the people of Iran must be dumb. Persia has been one of the greatest empires with some of the most interesting philosophers.

you are just making excuses for australia's mediocrity and poor education standards.

All australia has got is aussie rules, a pile of unprocessed minerals and a housing bubble with the most unafordable housing in the whole world.

You should feel good about that achievement Wink

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perceptions_now Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11694 Perth WA Gender:	Re: Iran Launches Satellite but we can't do this ! Reply #34 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 9:25pm I would suggest that some countries, such as the USA & Israel, would be viewing these developments more from the perspectives of - 1) The distance & technology that the rocket delivers. 2) The payload capability of the rocket.
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Reply #35 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 9:47pm

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 9:25pm:

I would suggest that some countries, such as the USA & Israel, would be viewing these developments more from the perspectives of -
1) The distance & technology that the rocket delivers.
2) The payload capability of the rocket.

Also:
Israel is spying on Iran using satellites every day.
Now Iran can do the same.

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Reply #37 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:15pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 9:47pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 9:25pm:

I would suggest that some countries, such as the USA & Israel, would be viewing these developments more from the perspectives of -
1) The distance & technology that the rocket delivers.
2) The payload capability of the rocket.

Also:
Israel is spying on Iran using satellites every day.
Now Iran can do the same.

They certainly can't rely on buying satellite time from the yanks Wink

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Reply #38 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:27pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 8:23pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 3:11pm:

Nail is right again.
We should be part of the space race &
not just a quarry for the Chinese.

Nails is WRONG again...we ARE part of the 'space race'...

Many countries were part of the space race if you include those 3rd world countries that hosted telemetry stations so the capsule pilots could communicate with the ground stations. But that doesn't mean they were part of any hi tech development.

No, I don't include countries that host telemetry stations....I only include countries that build satellites.....And Australia is one of them...

Buliding the hardware or infrastructure to launch a space vehicle isn't really necessary, not if we have 'friends' who already have the mechanics to do the launches....

We could build it...we have the skills (and the technology to rebuild him, to make him better than he was before. Better...stronger...faster lol)...it's just there wasn't any reason to spend the dollars on the infrastructure....

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Reply #39 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:44pm

Australia launches secret state of the art submersible but no-one else can.
Australia has the 2 best Commercial Dive Academies in the world, but no-one else has. We used to have the 3 best until Descend in Albury (inland) sold up.
Australia has the best 'live catch' Fishing Fleet, but no-one else has and no-one else has better fish stocks.
Australia has the best Rice (Sunrice in the Riverina) quality in the world ...no-one else has.
etc,
etc,

...Australia also has 'Polaris', which can nullify incoming 'Nukes' (ThunderDome Wink

).

Australia also has a high quality of living for lack of population growth besides boat people.

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Reply #40 - Feb 8^th, 2012 at 7:57am

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 8:19pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 2:04pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:05pm:

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

The chinks would do do it becasue a) they've already spent the $$$ and b) their satellite needs are likely to be much greater than ours.

You do understand that what suits china might not necessarily suit other countries? Should samoa have it's own space program?

what a load of bullshit. The french and the poms have been launching satellites from as early as the 1960's.

Yes nails....but they don't launch from their own countries...
The British 'Black Arrow' launch vehicles from the 1960's/1970's (the first British satellite launches) all took place in Woomera in SA...

ALL of the British satellites have been launched by other countries....Australia, the US and an Italian owned floating space centre of the coast of Kenya...

There are NO launch facilities in Britain

so what happened after the poms vacated Australia ?? Did the aussies continue on with the program or did they do what they did with cars and rely on foreign corporations to run the show ??

Yes, we did continue, our latest satellite was launched in 2003, and there are 2 more under construction in the US...

http://www.asri.org.au/australianspace/satellites

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #41 - Feb 8^th, 2012 at 10:53am

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:44pm:

Australia launches secret state of the art submersible but no-one else can.
Australia has the 2 best Commercial Dive Academies in the world, but no-one else has. We used to have the 3 best until Descend in Albury (inland) sold up.
Australia has the best 'live catch' Fishing Fleet, but no-one else has and no-one else has better fish stocks.
Australia has the best Rice (Sunrice in the Riverina) quality in the world ...no-one else has.
etc,
etc,

...Australia also has 'Polaris', which can nullify incoming 'Nukes' (ThunderDome Wink

).

Australia also has a high quality of living for lack of population growth besides boat people.

You can count all of those achievements on one hand of course. But you forgot to add the Akubera hat to those achievements Wink

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Reply #42 - Feb 8^th, 2012 at 10:54am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 8^th, 2012 at 7:57am:

Yes, we did continue, our latest satellite was launched in 2003, and there are 2 more under construction in the US...

http://www.asri.org.au/australianspace/satellites

No rocket technology and no launch capabilities of course. Why not ?? Here come the manufactured excuses to manufacture nothing Sad

Your excuse for this is what ??

Quote:

US firm pace Systems/Loral wins $620m NBN contract

US firm Space Systems/Loral has won the $620 million contract for two satellites to provide high-speed broadband to areas in remote Australia.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard, Communications Minister Stephen Conroy and NBN Co chief Mike Quigley made the announcement in Canberra today.

The subsidiary of California-based group Loral Space and Communications, will launch two satellites to provide high-speed internet by 2015 under the national broadband network (NBN).

NBN Co is the federal government-owned enterprise charged with rolling out fibre optic cable broadband to 93 per cent of Australia's 13 million homes, schools and businesses by 2021.

Fixed wireless technology will provide high-speed internet to four per cent of premises while the remaining three per cent will be supplied by satellite technology to remote areas.peSenator Stephen Conroy said Australians were a step closer to fast and affordable broadband services.

"This will ensure high speed broadband is delivered to Australia's remotest towns, such as Calvert in the Northern Territory and Bandya in Western Australia,'' he said in a statement.

Mr Quigley said the satellites were designed to deliver initial peak speeds of 12 megabytes download and one megabyte upload.

"It will be possible for retail service providers to offer services to homes and businesses in the satellite footprint that are as good or better than the services many city people currently experience,'' he said.
Space Systems/Loral president John Celli said the two companies shared a commitment to the highest quality performance.

"We're delighted to play a part in helping to deliver much-needed hi-speed broadband communities in regional and remote areas,'' he said.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/us-firm-wins-620m-nbn-contract/story-e6frfku0-1226265579248#ixzz1lkRVklFc

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Reply #43 - Feb 8^th, 2012 at 11:34am

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 11:16pm:

The so called clever country can't do what Iran can do Cheesy

LOL

We can't even make pulverised sheep sh.t and we have to pay foreign car companies to come here and make cars for us Cheesy

LOL

TEHRAN, Iran — Iran successfully launched a new small satellite into orbit early Friday, state media reported, the latest in the country's ambitious space program that has raised concerns in the West because of its possible military applications.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called in to the launch site, saying he was "hopeful this act will send a signal of more friendship among all human beings," the official IRNA news agency reported.

IRNA said the domestically-made satellite, Navid, or Gospel, was designed to collect data on weather conditions and monitor for natural disasters.

It said the satellite weighs about 110 pounds (50 kilograms) and would orbit Earth at an altitude of up to 234 miles (375 kilometers), circling the planet 15 times a day. It's of a type known as miniaturized or microsatellites, which are cheaper to produce and allow for less costly launch vehicles.

Produced at an Iranian engineering university, Navid is the third small satellite that Iran has launched in recent years and is expected to remain in orbit for about two months. IRNA said Navid has advanced control technology, a higher resolution camera and photocells to generate power.

The satellite was sent into orbit by a missile launch-vehicle dubbed Safir, or Ambassador in Farsi, which IRNA said has 20 percent more launch power compared to earlier versions of satellite carrier missiles.

An Iranian website, Irannuc.ir, claimed Safir was a ballistic missile that can be converted into an intercontinental missile. State TV showed footage of the launch, with a rocket sent off and turning into a light point in the darkness of the skies.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/03/iran-small-satellite-launched_n_1253270...

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Reply #44 - Feb 8^th, 2012 at 12:03pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 8^th, 2012 at 10:54am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 8^th, 2012 at 7:57am:

Yes, we did continue, our latest satellite was launched in 2003, and there are 2 more under construction in the US...

http://www.asri.org.au/australianspace/satellites

No rocket technology and no launch capabilities of course. Why not ?? Here come the manufactured excuses to manufacture nothing Sad

Your excuse for this is what ??

Quote:

US firm pace Systems/Loral wins $620m NBN contract

US firm Space Systems/Loral has won the $620 million contract for two satellites to provide high-speed broadband to areas in remote Australia.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard, Communications Minister Stephen Conroy and NBN Co chief Mike Quigley made the announcement in Canberra today.

The subsidiary of California-based group Loral Space and Communications, will launch two satellites to provide high-speed internet by 2015 under the national broadband network (NBN).

NBN Co is the federal government-owned enterprise charged with rolling out fibre optic cable broadband to 93 per cent of Australia's 13 million homes, schools and businesses by 2021.

Fixed wireless technology will provide high-speed internet to four per cent of premises while the remaining three per cent will be supplied by satellite technology to remote areas.peSenator Stephen Conroy said Australians were a step closer to fast and affordable broadband services.

"This will ensure high speed broadband is delivered to Australia's remotest towns, such as Calvert in the Northern Territory and Bandya in Western Australia,'' he said in a statement.

Mr Quigley said the satellites were designed to deliver initial peak speeds of 12 megabytes download and one megabyte upload.

"It will be possible for retail service providers to offer services to homes and businesses in the satellite footprint that are as good or better than the services many city people currently experience,'' he said.
Space Systems/Loral president John Celli said the two companies shared a commitment to the highest quality performance.

"We're delighted to play a part in helping to deliver much-needed hi-speed broadband communities in regional and remote areas,'' he said.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/us-firm-wins-620m-nbn-contract/story-e6frfku0-1226265579248#ixzz1lkRVklFc

Good post Nail,
It shows these luddites like Longweekend how backward we are.

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