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Reply #15 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:22pm

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:05pm:

Honky Tonk hillbilly -
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They have their own military satelites to add to their national security.
They can take high resolution photos of other countries &
eavesdrop on phone systems & other communications.

Yeah.

So what? Far easier to pay the chinks to launch any satellites we might want or need.

So what beenfit would we gain from skinking billions upon billions into a space program?

so why would the chinks do it if it is such a silly idea ??

you just want to make excuses as to why we are backward country which is only good for its resources and nothing else Sad

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Reply #16 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:29pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:22pm:

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:05pm:

Honky Tonk hillbilly -
read the thread:

Quote:

They have their own military satelites to add to their national security.
They can take high resolution photos of other countries &
eavesdrop on phone systems & other communications.

Yeah.

So what? Far easier to pay the chinks to launch any satellites we might want or need.

So what beenfit would we gain from skinking billions upon billions into a space program?

so why would the chinks do it if it is such a silly idea ??

you just want to make excuses as to why we are backward country which is only good for its resources and nothing else Sad

The chinks would do do it becasue a) they've already spent the $$$ and b) their satellite needs are likely to be much greater than ours.

You do understand that what suits china might not necessarily suit other countries? Should samoa have it's own space program?

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Reply #17 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:37pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:22pm:

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:05pm:

Honky Tonk hillbilly -
read the thread:

Quote:

They have their own military satellites to add to their national security.
They can take high resolution photos of other countries &
eavesdrop on phone systems & other communications.

Yeah.

So what? Far easier to pay the chinks to launch any satellites we might want or need.

So what beenfit would we gain from skinking billions upon billions into a space program?

so why would the chinks do it if it is such a silly idea ??

you just want to make excuses as to why we are backward country which is only good for its resources and nothing else Sad

Because they were part of the 'space race' (allied with Russia) during the 'Cold War'....and the Chinese space program grew out of that.....mainly concentrating on ICBMs in response to a perceived threat from the 'Capitalist West'...(mostly the US)....

They launched their first (successful) satellite in 1970..

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Reply #18 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:05pm

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

The chinks would do do it becasue a) they've already spent the $$$ and b) their satellite needs are likely to be much greater than ours.

You do understand that what suits china might not necessarily suit other countries? Should samoa have it's own space program?

what a load of bullshit. The french and the poms have been launching satellites from as early as the 1960's.

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Reply #19 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:22pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:05pm:

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

The chinks would do do it becasue a) they've already spent the $$$ and b) their satellite needs are likely to be much greater than ours.

You do understand that what suits china might not necessarily suit other countries? Should samoa have it's own space program?

what a load of bullshit. The french and the poms have been launching satellites from as early as the 1960's.

Yes, indeed they have. Your point?

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Iran Launches Satellite but we can't do this ! Reply #20 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:32pm North Korea has Nuclear capability but their people are starving to death. But I concede you have a valid point. We are bleeding scientists to the rest of the world because this useless Government does not value their contribution, nor the contribution of Science as a whole.
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Reply #21 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:46pm

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:22pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:05pm:

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

The chinks would do do it becasue a) they've already spent the $$$ and b) their satellite needs are likely to be much greater than ours.

You do understand that what suits china might not necessarily suit other countries? Should samoa have it's own space program?

what a load of bullshit. The french and the poms have been launching satellites from as early as the 1960's.

Yes, indeed they have. Your point?

you have no excuses as to why Australia never entered the space race apart from the fact that we talk big but do nothing.

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Reply #22 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:50pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:46pm:

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:22pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:05pm:

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

The chinks would do do it becasue a) they've already spent the $$$ and b) their satellite needs are likely to be much greater than ours.

You do understand that what suits china might not necessarily suit other countries? Should samoa have it's own space program?

what a load of bullshit. The french and the poms have been launching satellites from as early as the 1960's.

Yes, indeed they have. Your point?

you have no excuses as to why Australia never entered the space race.

Australia never entered the space race because there was no reason to do so. If we need to send up a satellite or 2, we don't need to spend billions just so we can say we did it ourself. It's like if I wanted to do some landscaping on my backyard - I don't BUY a bobcat when renting one fulfils all my needs at a much lower cost.

So, what benefit is there to be gained by australia having it's own space program?

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Reply #23 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 2:04pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:05pm:

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

The chinks would do do it becasue a) they've already spent the $$$ and b) their satellite needs are likely to be much greater than ours.

You do understand that what suits china might not necessarily suit other countries? Should samoa have it's own space program?

what a load of bullshit. The french and the poms have been launching satellites from as early as the 1960's.

Yes nails....but they don't launch from their own countries...
The British 'Black Arrow' launch vehicles from the 1960's/1970's (the first British satellite launches) all took place in Woomera in SA...

ALL of the British satellites have been launched by other countries....Australia, the US and an Italian owned floating space centre of the coast of Kenya...

There are NO launch facilities in Britain

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Reply #24 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 2:20pm

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:50pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:46pm:

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:22pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:05pm:

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

The chinks would do do it becasue a) they've already spent the $$$ and b) their satellite needs are likely to be much greater than ours.

You do understand that what suits china might not necessarily suit other countries? Should samoa have it's own space program?

what a load of bullshit. The french and the poms have been launching satellites from as early as the 1960's.

Yes, indeed they have. Your point?

you have no excuses as to why Australia never entered the space race.

Australia never entered the space race because there was no reason to do so. If we need to send up a satellite or 2, we don't need to spend billions just so we can say we did it ourself. It's like if I wanted to do some landscaping on my backyard - I don't BUY a bobcat when renting one fulfils all my needs at a much lower cost.

So, what benefit is there to be gained by australia having it's own space program?

launching our own satellites and satellites for other countries for a nominal fee of course. It's a hi-tech business just like any other.

Oh but I forgot, Australians are early adopters of technology according to Peter Costello especially when it comes to the latest mobile phones just so aussies can talk sh.t to each other Sad

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Reply #25 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 2:27pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 2:20pm:

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:50pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:46pm:

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:22pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:05pm:

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

The chinks would do do it becasue a) they've already spent the $$$ and b) their satellite needs are likely to be much greater than ours.

You do understand that what suits china might not necessarily suit other countries? Should samoa have it's own space program?

what a load of bullshit. The french and the poms have been launching satellites from as early as the 1960's.

Yes, indeed they have. Your point?

you have no excuses as to why Australia never entered the space race.

Australia never entered the space race because there was no reason to do so. If we need to send up a satellite or 2, we don't need to spend billions just so we can say we did it ourself. It's like if I wanted to do some landscaping on my backyard - I don't BUY a bobcat when renting one fulfils all my needs at a much lower cost.

So, what benefit is there to be gained by australia having it's own space program?

launching our own satellites and satellites for other countries for a nominal fee of course. It's a hi-tech business just like any other.

Oh but I forgot, Australians are early adopters of technology according to Peter Costello especially when it comes to the latest mobile phones just so aussies can talk sh.t to each other Sad

We developed much of the current 'cutting edge' technology around you know...

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 120851 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Iran Launches Satellite but we can't do this ! Reply #26 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 3:11pm Nail is right again. We should be part of the space race & not just a quarry for the Chinese.
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Iran Launches Satellite but we can't do this ! Reply #27 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 3:15pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 3:11pm: Nail is right again. We should be part of the space race & not just a quarry for the Chinese. Nails is WRONG again...we ARE part of the 'space race'...
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Reply #28 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 3:27pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:46pm:

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you have no excuses as to why Australia never entered the space race apart from the fact that we talk big but do nothing.

Australia was very much in the 'space race' from the 1950s through to the early 1970's, Womera Air Weapons Range was only second to Cape Canaveral in launching rockets during the 1960's. We set up many major aerospace programs in conjunction with the US and UK.

To say we 'never' entered the space race is a bit ignorant; but it is you making these statements.

You know you can use Google to check your facts before making a fool of yourself.

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Reply #29 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 4:59pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:46pm:

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:22pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:05pm:

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

The chinks would do do it becasue a) they've already spent the $$$ and b) their satellite needs are likely to be much greater than ours.

You do understand that what suits china might not necessarily suit other countries? Should samoa have it's own space program?

what a load of bullshit. The french and the poms have been launching satellites from as early as the 1960's.

Yes, indeed they have. Your point?

you have no excuses as to why Australia never entered the space race apart from the fact that we talk big but do nothing.

I think you are confusing Australia with YOURSELF.

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