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Question: Should we be launching satellites?

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Iran Launches Satellite but we can't do this ! (Read 7423 times)
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Reply #105 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 6:10pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 5:26pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 5:19pm:
Which part of what is on the video my personal opinion ??

Fact - we don't have a space program,
Fact - we can't launch satellites
Fact - we have to pay a US firm 630 million to launch two communication satellites which I assume are also made by them

Which part of that is my personal opinion ??



Your personal opinion, includes

That we NEED a space program

We can AFFORD a space program

That a space program would BENEFIT us

That it's just political WILL stopping us from having a space program


Show me the irrefutable evidence that covers those opinions and you might look less of a whiny loser.



and this is your only argument against it. Cheesy LOL

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You two need to step outside and get a big dose of reality, we are NOT china or the US we ARE limited by population and money to engage in the big techy stuff, this is just a reality, not a conspiracy against you two.


Don't make or have electric cars either because if you drive a jeep wankler 10k's each week it will help save money at the fossil fool bowser Cheesy LOL

Looks like I have lost those two arguments Cheesy LOL

What a dipshit





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Reply #106 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 6:55pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 4:41pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 4:26pm:
Well it's not too late to join up with Dr No and his Luddite brigade. You'd fit in really well Wink

And which of my posts are wrong ?




Starting from this one and working my way back, I'd say nearly all of them are fundamentally flawed in one fashion or another.

What they lack in factual evidence or cognitive reasoning, they more than make up for in personal abuse as their underlying foundation.

They are churlish and ill-conceived with little or no intellectual depth, it's like reading the writings of a child suffering form ADHD, frustrated with the complexities of existence.






Big boy,
Nail has given exhaustive evidence for all his writings -
especially electric cars.
As for being churlish - you're the one who is rude & vulgar.
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Re: Iran Launches Satellite but we can't do this !
Reply #107 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 9:30pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 6:55pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 4:41pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 4:26pm:
Well it's not too late to join up with Dr No and his Luddite brigade. You'd fit in really well Wink

And which of my posts are wrong ?




Starting from this one and working my way back, I'd say nearly all of them are fundamentally flawed in one fashion or another.

What they lack in factual evidence or cognitive reasoning, they more than make up for in personal abuse as their underlying foundation.

They are churlish and ill-conceived with little or no intellectual depth, it's like reading the writings of a child suffering form ADHD, frustrated with the complexities of existence.






Big boy,
Nail has given exhaustive evidence for all his writings -
especially electric cars.
As for being churlish - you're the one who is rude & vulgar.


There's an old saying that applies to some of these posters. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing Wink
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Re: Iran Launches Satellite but we can't do this !
Reply #108 - Feb 10th, 2012 at 6:57am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 6:10pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 5:26pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 5:19pm:
Which part of what is on the video my personal opinion ??

Fact - we don't have a space program,
Fact - we can't launch satellites
Fact - we have to pay a US firm 630 million to launch two communication satellites which I assume are also made by them

Which part of that is my personal opinion ??



Your personal opinion, includes

That we NEED a space program

We can AFFORD a space program

That a space program would BENEFIT us

That it's just political WILL stopping us from having a space program


Show me the irrefutable evidence that covers those opinions and you might look less of a whiny loser.



and this is your only argument against it. Cheesy LOL





So, in your mind, not having a NEED for, or not being able to AFFORD, or providing NO solid benefit is not a valid argument for not entering, sorry re-entering the space program. (sorry about the triple negative, i know easy it is to confuse you)

Most normal people would consider that a very solid argument, well except you and fist puppet.

I see it's still only you and puppet who have voted yes to the Aussie Moon Base.  Grin

I drive a Jeep because I like the Jeep and I can afford the fuel costs, I don't need to scrimp and save to fill my tank, that naturally comes with earning decent money.

But you keep whinging the good whinge, ya loser

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Re: Iran Launches Satellite but we can't do this !
Reply #109 - Feb 10th, 2012 at 8:20am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 5:16pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 4:53pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 4:46pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 4:29pm:
A lot more than $20 Billion.....but that's spread out over 60+ years too....Just the Shuttle Program has cost about $145 Billion....

Of course how much the US have spent IS my point....they have the toys and gear to use them ( lift bodies, shuttles, Kennedy Space Cetnre etc)....and they'll us (Australia) send up our space hardware and scientists using their rockets.....so why do we need to duplicate existing technology and infrastructure???


Yes and the technological spin-offs are immense creating millions of jobs in new technologies and new products. But we don't want that here because we can create lots of fake jobs for public servants looking out the window and filling out some bullshit paper work. That makes much more sense doesn't it Sad


Very good....that's almost true....Except that the 'technological spin-offs' already exist (in your home) and none of it is 'new technology'....Do you seriously think that building a space flight centre is going let us discover something the US, Russia, China, or the EU space flight centres haven't already found???

Hey, maybe we could invent a microwave oven???? Grin Grin


Or maybe we could be launching the two communications satellites that we are now paying an American firm 630 million to do. Or maybe we could be launching satellites for other countries. But perish the thought of having an export industry. That's total heresy for someone as backward and as stupid as you are.



Well if holding up the launch for 15 or more years, and spending $20 Billion instead of $620 million (not $630m), is what you consider 'clever', I suppose we could........As for launching for other countries.....WHICH ONES???? Russia, China and Japan have their own launch pads, America has as well....and the European Space Agency works out of the Guiana Space Centre and it (the ESA) is made up of 19 countries in Europe....
So who would we be launching satellites for????
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Re: Iran Launches Satellite but we can't do this !
Reply #110 - Feb 11th, 2012 at 7:08am
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 6:55pm:
Big boy,
Nail has given exhaustive evidence for all his writings -
especially electric cars.
As for being churlish - you're the one who is rude & vulgar.



Yeah Fist Puppet, that's not what churlish means and neither does repeating ones opinion over and over define 'exhaustive evidence'.


Looks like you losers did get one single other person to agree with you, well worth the effort put in; kudos to you and nails.  Grin



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Re: Iran Launches Satellite but we can't do this !
Reply #111 - Feb 11th, 2012 at 7:26am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 11:30pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 11:27pm:
Hi Nail,
Good video.
I am embarrassed to live amongst so many low achievers
in this country when other countries are in the space race.
They have their own military satelites to add to their national security.
They can take high resolution photos of other countries &
eavesdrop on phone systems & other communications.

We are quite at good at sport though.


how can we ever get into the space race when there are people like badweekend who think that dial-up internet is more than adequate Sad



But the point is we don't think dial up intenet is adequete for our needs, we want better, but will they provide it, NO there just making money for themselfs with there services and STUFF the cusmstomer.
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Reply #112 - Feb 11th, 2012 at 10:15am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 10th, 2012 at 6:57am:
So, in your mind, not having a NEED for, or not being able to AFFORD, or providing NO solid benefit is not a valid argument for not entering, sorry re-entering the space program. (sorry about the triple negative, i know easy it is to confuse you)

Most normal people would consider that a very solid argument, well except you and fist puppet.

I see it's still only you and puppet who have voted yes to the Aussie Moon Base.  Grin

I drive a Jeep because I like the Jeep and I can afford the fuel costs, I don't need to scrimp and save to fill my tank, that naturally comes with earning decent money.

But you keep whinging the good whinge, ya loser



And what was your solution to the rising cost of fossil fools ??

You had no solution and you still think you won the argument Cheesy LOL

"Leave the hi-techy things to china" you said.  Maybe you can offer china your great visionary advice in exchange for their "hi-techy things". What a f.cken deadbeat you are Sad You musty be a public servant of some sort !!

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Reply #113 - Feb 11th, 2012 at 10:17am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 11th, 2012 at 7:08am:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 6:55pm:
Big boy,
Nail has given exhaustive evidence for all his writings -
especially electric cars.
As for being churlish - you're the one who is rude & vulgar.



Yeah Fist Puppet, that's not what churlish means and neither does repeating ones opinion over and over define 'exhaustive evidence'.


Looks like you losers did get one single other person to agree with you, well worth the effort put in; kudos to you and nails.  Grin







Definition of CHURLISH


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/churlish
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1:  of, resembling, or characteristic of a churl : vulgar


2:  marked by a lack of civility or graciousness : surly


3:  difficult to work with or deal with : intractable <churlish soil>


Big idiot,
Stop using words where you don't know what they mean you ignorant flamer.
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Reply #114 - Feb 11th, 2012 at 10:20am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 11th, 2012 at 7:08am:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 6:55pm:
Big boy,
Nail has given exhaustive evidence for all his writings -
especially electric cars.
As for being churlish - you're the one who is rude & vulgar.



Yeah Fist Puppet, that's not what churlish means and neither does repeating ones opinion over and over define 'exhaustive evidence'.


Looks like you losers did get one single other person to agree with you, well worth the effort put in; kudos to you and nails.  Grin





That's because the ones who voted no are visionary vacuum's and technical ignoramuses who think that a job in the public service counting windows is a mark of success Sad
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Reply #115 - Feb 11th, 2012 at 10:52am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 10th, 2012 at 8:20am:
Well if holding up the launch for 15 or more years, and spending $20 Billion instead of $620 million (not $630m), is what you consider 'clever', I suppose we could........As for launching for other countries.....WHICH ONES???? Russia, China and Japan have their own launch pads, America has as well....and the European Space Agency works out of the Guiana Space Centre and it (the ESA) is made up of 19 countries in Europe....
So who would we be launching satellites for????


We had 40 years to get something going but we didn't !! So what happened ??

Just like we had 12 years to get a commercial home grown hybrid/EV going when the CSIRO designed the E-commodore back in 2000 and now it's stuck in a Museum whilst Holden keeps holding out its hand for more money to make more of the same fossil fool junk Sad

Obviously there were people like you making bad decisions on behalf of the country Sad

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Reply #116 - Feb 11th, 2012 at 11:16am
 
CIA fears Iran has data downed drone failed to dump


A comprehensive CIA investigation reportedly fails to find the cause of the US drone going down in Iran last year, raising fears that the aircraft failed to dump sensitive data.

FOX News quoted a former intelligence official as saying that CIA's comprehensive, 10-week review was unable to replicate the “malfunction” that brought down the RQ-170 Sentinel drone in Iran.

The report supports Iran’s claims that the reconnaissance was cyberjacked by the army’s electronic warfare unit and eased to a safe landing while deep in Iranian territory on December 4.

Washington originally denied the loss of the drone before changing its story and insisting that contact was lost with the aircraft during a surveillance mission over neighboring Afghanistan.

“Investigators were focusing on how to prevent a repeat of the incident in the future, but without the hardware or the drone - Iran refused to return it - those efforts have been frustrated,” the report added.

US President Barack Obama finally broke his silence on the issue on December 12 and announced that Washington had asked Tehran to return the drone.

“We've asked for it back. We'll see how the Iranians respond,” Obama said.

Iran, however, responded that the drone is now its “national asset” and had undertaken reverse engineering procedures on the US spy plane. Tehran said it had necessary technology to decode the captured US drone's data and documents.

http://www.presstv.com/detail/226024.html
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Reply #117 - Feb 11th, 2012 at 12:44pm
 
You see aussies pull themselves over how smart they are and how many houses they own and they can't even organize a rocket to launch a satellite. They can't even make cars without having to pay bribe money to a multinational corporation Sad
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Reply #118 - Feb 11th, 2012 at 1:04pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 11th, 2012 at 12:44pm:
You see aussies pull themselves over how smart they are and how many houses they own and they can't even organize a rocket to launch a satellite. They can't even make cars without having to pay bribe money to a multinational corporation Sad



And, even though, you aren't smart enough to accept or understand it, the same reason applies to both those things....

And that answer is, there isn't enough financial return involved to justify the expenditure....
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Reply #119 - Feb 11th, 2012 at 1:09pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 11th, 2012 at 1:04pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 11th, 2012 at 12:44pm:
You see aussies pull themselves over how smart they are and how many houses they own and they can't even organize a rocket to launch a satellite. They can't even make cars without having to pay bribe money to a multinational corporation Sad



And, even though, you aren't smart enough to accept or understand it, the same reason applies to both those things....

And that answer is, there isn't enough financial return involved to justify the expenditure....


How is it that the Germans have their OWN car industries and manufacture premium quality cars for both the local and export markets which sell for a premium price. Maybe watch the traffic sometime. I'm sure you will see quite a few German made cars Wink

They obviously don't employ idiots like you to make important decisions.
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