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BigOl64 Gold Member Offline Posts: 14438 Townsville QLD Gender:	Re: Iran Launches Satellite but we can't do this ! Reply #90 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 3:52pm Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 3:41pm: Edit the pole bobby otherwise the idiot will be looking for any loophole to argue the contrary Plus only you and your little fist-puppet have voted yes, not that it'll matter. BTW the word is poll.
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Reply #91 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:15pm

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 3:52pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 3:41pm:

Edit the pole bobby otherwise the idiot will be looking for any loophole to argue the contrary Sad

Plus only you and your little fist-puppet have voted yes, not that it'll matter. Grin

BTW the word is poll.

and of course the luddite liberals have voted no as usual just like their brain dead leader.

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Reply #92 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:16pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 3:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 2:15pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 1:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 12:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 12:02pm:

I added a poll:

Should we be launching satellites?

Since you left out the fact that we have done and currently do....your poll is useless...

Don't think we've done much for quite a while:

http://australia_space.rossjsmith.com/aus_sat_covers.htm

But that's not what the poll asks....

"Should we be launching our own satellites" would imply our own facilities, but as it is written.....everytime an Australian owned satellite goes up, we've launched it...

OK - the poll should read:
should we be making & launching our own satellites from Australian soil
using our own technology?

Edit the pole bobby otherwise the idiot will be looking for any loophole to argue the contrary Sad

Seriously nails.....after all the time you've spent complaining and whining about the Government giving Holden a miserly $20 million, do you actually expect anyone to believe you'd support the Gov handing out amounts of $20+ BILLION, to fund an Australian Space Program, that might, just might, allow us to launch a satellite in maybe 15 or 20 years from now????

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Reply #93 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:20pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:15pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 3:52pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 3:41pm:

Edit the pole bobby otherwise the idiot will be looking for any loophole to argue the contrary Sad

Plus only you and your little fist-puppet have voted yes, not that it'll matter. Grin

BTW the word is poll.

and of course the luddite liberals have voted no as usual just like their brain dead leader.

Still not a liberal, party member, politician or voter; the insult, like most of your posts, is wrong

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Reply #94 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:22pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:16pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 3:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 2:15pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 1:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 12:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 12:02pm:

I added a poll:

Should we be launching satellites?

Since you left out the fact that we have done and currently do....your poll is useless...

Don't think we've done much for quite a while:

http://australia_space.rossjsmith.com/aus_sat_covers.htm

But that's not what the poll asks....

"Should we be launching our own satellites" would imply our own facilities, but as it is written.....everytime an Australian owned satellite goes up, we've launched it...

OK - the poll should read:
should we be making & launching our own satellites from Australian soil
using our own technology?

Edit the pole bobby otherwise the idiot will be looking for any loophole to argue the contrary Sad

Seriously nails.....after all the time you've spent complaining and whining about the Government giving Holden a miserly $20 million, do you actually expect anyone to believe you'd support the Gov handing out amounts of $20+ BILLION, to fund an Australian Space Program, that might, just might, allow us to launch a satellite in maybe 15 or 20 years from now????

And how much has the US Government spent on their space program ??

And it certainly beats blowing 20 billion on the war on error chasing imaginary bogeymen.

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Reply #95 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:26pm

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:20pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:15pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 3:52pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 3:41pm:

Edit the pole bobby otherwise the idiot will be looking for any loophole to argue the contrary Sad

Plus only you and your little fist-puppet have voted yes, not that it'll matter. Grin

BTW the word is poll.

and of course the luddite liberals have voted no as usual just like their brain dead leader.

Still not a liberal, party member, politician or voter; the insult, like most of your posts, is wrong

Well it's not too late to join up with Dr No and his Luddite brigade. You'd fit in really well Wink

And which of my posts are wrong ?

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Reply #96 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:29pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:22pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:16pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 3:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 2:15pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 1:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 12:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 12:02pm:

I added a poll:

Should we be launching satellites?

Since you left out the fact that we have done and currently do....your poll is useless...

Don't think we've done much for quite a while:

http://australia_space.rossjsmith.com/aus_sat_covers.htm

But that's not what the poll asks....

"Should we be launching our own satellites" would imply our own facilities, but as it is written.....everytime an Australian owned satellite goes up, we've launched it...

OK - the poll should read:
should we be making & launching our own satellites from Australian soil
using our own technology?

Edit the pole bobby otherwise the idiot will be looking for any loophole to argue the contrary Sad

Seriously nails.....after all the time you've spent complaining and whining about the Government giving Holden a miserly $20 million, do you actually expect anyone to believe you'd support the Gov handing out amounts of $20+ BILLION, to fund an Australian Space Program, that might, just might, allow us to launch a satellite in maybe 15 or 20 years from now????

And how much has the US Government spent on their space program ??

And it certainly beats blowing 20 billion on the war on error chasing imaginary bogeymen.

A lot more than $20 Billion.....but that's spread out over 60+ years too....Just the Shuttle Program has cost about $145 Billion....

Of course how much the US have spent IS my point....they have the toys and gear to use them ( lift bodies, shuttles, Kennedy Space Cetnre etc)....and they'll us (Australia) send up our space hardware and scientists using their rockets.....so why do we need to duplicate existing technology and infrastructure???

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #97 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:41pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:26pm:

Well it's not too late to join up with Dr No and his Luddite brigade. You'd fit in really well Wink

And which of my posts are wrong ?

Starting from this one and working my way back, I'd say nearly all of them are fundamentally flawed in one fashion or another.

What they lack in factual evidence or cognitive reasoning, they more than make up for in personal abuse as their underlying foundation.

They are churlish and ill-conceived with little or no intellectual depth, it's like reading the writings of a child suffering form ADHD, frustrated with the complexities of existence.

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Reply #98 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:46pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:29pm:

A lot more than $20 Billion.....but that's spread out over 60+ years too....Just the Shuttle Program has cost about $145 Billion....

Of course how much the US have spent IS my point....they have the toys and gear to use them ( lift bodies, shuttles, Kennedy Space Cetnre etc)....and they'll us (Australia) send up our space hardware and scientists using their rockets.....so why do we need to duplicate existing technology and infrastructure???

Yes and the technological spin-offs are immense creating millions of jobs in new technologies and new products. But we don't want that here because we can create lots of fake jobs for public servants looking out the window and filling out some bullshit paper work. That makes much more sense doesn't it Sad

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Reply #99 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:49pm

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:41pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:26pm:

Well it's not too late to join up with Dr No and his Luddite brigade. You'd fit in really well Wink

And which of my posts are wrong ?

Starting from this one and working my way back, I'd say nearly all of them are fundamentally flawed in one fashion or another.

What they lack in factual evidence or cognitive reasoning, they more than make up for in personal abuse as their underlying foundation.

They are churlish and ill-conceived with little or no intellectual depth, it's like reading the writings of a child suffering form ADHD, frustrated with the complexities of existence.

Which one idiot ??

I back up all of my posts with actual irrefutable evidence as per the start of this thread. I cannot help it if you are deaf dumb and blind.

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Reply #100 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:53pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:46pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:29pm:

A lot more than $20 Billion.....but that's spread out over 60+ years too....Just the Shuttle Program has cost about $145 Billion....

Of course how much the US have spent IS my point....they have the toys and gear to use them ( lift bodies, shuttles, Kennedy Space Cetnre etc)....and they'll us (Australia) send up our space hardware and scientists using their rockets.....so why do we need to duplicate existing technology and infrastructure???

Yes and the technological spin-offs are immense creating millions of jobs in new technologies and new products. But we don't want that here because we can create lots of fake jobs for public servants looking out the window and filling out some bullshit paper work. That makes much more sense doesn't it Sad

Very good....that's almost true....Except that the 'technological spin-offs' already exist (in your home) and none of it is 'new technology'....Do you seriously think that building a space flight centre is going let us discover something the US, Russia, China, or the EU space flight centres haven't already found???

Hey, maybe we could invent a microwave oven???? Grin

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Reply #101 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:01pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:49pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:41pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:26pm:

Well it's not too late to join up with Dr No and his Luddite brigade. You'd fit in really well Wink

And which of my posts are wrong ?

Starting from this one and working my way back, I'd say nearly all of them are fundamentally flawed in one fashion or another.

What they lack in factual evidence or cognitive reasoning, they more than make up for in personal abuse as their underlying foundation.

They are churlish and ill-conceived with little or no intellectual depth, it's like reading the writings of a child suffering form ADHD, frustrated with the complexities of existence.

Which one idiot ??

I back up all of my posts with actual irrefutable evidence as per the start of this thread. I cannot help it if you are deaf dumb and blind.

If by irrefutable evidence you mean personal opinion and abuse then sure, why not. Grin

BTW it's been several hours and only you and fist puppet are in agreement with the Aussie space program, maybe you, booby and Newt Gingrich could discuss launching an Aussie Moon Base when he's done with the US Primaries Grin

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Reply #102 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:16pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:53pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:46pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:29pm:

A lot more than $20 Billion.....but that's spread out over 60+ years too....Just the Shuttle Program has cost about $145 Billion....

Of course how much the US have spent IS my point....they have the toys and gear to use them ( lift bodies, shuttles, Kennedy Space Cetnre etc)....and they'll us (Australia) send up our space hardware and scientists using their rockets.....so why do we need to duplicate existing technology and infrastructure???

Yes and the technological spin-offs are immense creating millions of jobs in new technologies and new products. But we don't want that here because we can create lots of fake jobs for public servants looking out the window and filling out some bullshit paper work. That makes much more sense doesn't it Sad

Very good....that's almost true....Except that the 'technological spin-offs' already exist (in your home) and none of it is 'new technology'....Do you seriously think that building a space flight centre is going let us discover something the US, Russia, China, or the EU space flight centres haven't already found???

Hey, maybe we could invent a microwave oven???? Grin

Or maybe we could be launching the two communications satellites that we are now paying an American firm 630 million to do. Or maybe we could be launching satellites for other countries. But perish the thought of having an export industry. That's total heresy for someone as backward and as stupid as you are.

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Reply #103 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:19pm

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:01pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:49pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:41pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:26pm:

Well it's not too late to join up with Dr No and his Luddite brigade. You'd fit in really well Wink

And which of my posts are wrong ?

Starting from this one and working my way back, I'd say nearly all of them are fundamentally flawed in one fashion or another.

What they lack in factual evidence or cognitive reasoning, they more than make up for in personal abuse as their underlying foundation.

They are churlish and ill-conceived with little or no intellectual depth, it's like reading the writings of a child suffering form ADHD, frustrated with the complexities of existence.

Which one idiot ??

I back up all of my posts with actual irrefutable evidence as per the start of this thread. I cannot help it if you are deaf dumb and blind.

If by irrefutable evidence you mean personal opinion and abuse then sure, why not. Grin

BTW it's been several hours and only you and fist puppet are in agreement with the Aussie space program, maybe you, booby and Newt Gingrich could discuss launching an Aussie Moon Base when he's done with the US Primaries Grin

Which part of what is on the video my personal opinion ??

Fact - we don't have a space program,
Fact - we can't launch satellites
Fact - we have to pay a US firm 630 million to launch two communication satellites which I assume are also made by them

Which part of that is my personal opinion ??

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Reply #104 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:26pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:19pm:

Which part of what is on the video my personal opinion ??

Fact - we don't have a space program,
Fact - we can't launch satellites
Fact - we have to pay a US firm 630 million to launch two communication satellites which I assume are also made by them

Which part of that is my personal opinion ??

Your personal opinion, includes

That we NEED a space program

We can AFFORD a space program

That a space program would BENEFIT us

That it's just political WILL stopping us from having a space program

Show me the irrefutable evidence that covers those opinions and you might look less of a whiny loser.

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Question: Should we be launching satellites?
yes 5 (55.6%) no 4 (44.4%) Total votes: 9 « Created by: Bobby. on: Feb 9^th, 2012 at 12:02pm »