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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Newspoll ~ Abbott/Gillard Still Sliding Feb 5^th, 2012 at 9:13pm Gillard and Abbott still sliding in performance satisfaction Still 25% vote is away from the old parties Primary : ALP 30 Lib 42 Greens 12 Indep 13 Gnats 3 TPP 46/54 (same) http://menabilly.visibli.com/share/bojoSS
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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: Newspoll ~ Abbott/Gillard Still Sliding Reply #1 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 9:18pm ____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 9:13pm: Gillard and Abbott still sliding in performance satisfaction Still 25% vote is away from the old parties Primary : ALP 30 Lib 42 Greens 12 Indep 13 Gnats 3 TPP 46/54 (same) http://menabilly.visibli.com/share/bojoSS Old news, this is from a week ago.
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Newspoll ~ Abbott/Gillard Still Sliding Reply #2 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 9:30pm and he is missing the fact that the Greens are 2% down on last election. not exactly GOOD NEWS for the gay party.
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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: Newspoll ~ Abbott/Gillard Still Sliding Reply #3 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 9:34pm longweekend58 wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 9:30pm: and he is missing the fact that the Greens are 2% down on last election. not exactly GOOD NEWS for the gay party. Didn't you know that these results are also a clear indication that we are heading towards another hung parliament?
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Newspoll ~ Abbott/Gillard Still Sliding Reply #4 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 9:46pm Greens under the impression Bob Brown's 12% equates to a majority in 2013 so he can form government Gillard has a lot to answer for giving him this false hope when she did that deal with him
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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14248 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: Newspoll ~ Abbott/Gillard Still Sliding Reply #5 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 9:51pm longweekend58 wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 9:30pm: and he is missing the fact that the Greens are 2% down on last election. not exactly GOOD NEWS for the gay party. Pop on the 'specs' - old chap ... They're UP 0.2% from the last election i
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Re: Newspoll ~ Abbott/Gillard Still Sliding
Reply #6 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 11:25pm

Age/Nielsen poll

Michelle Grattan
February 6, 2012

JULIA Gillard has received a boost in Labor's vote and leads Tony Abbott as preferred prime minister for the first time in nine months, in an Age/Nielsen poll that will give the embattled leader some relief as the government reels from intense speculation about her future.

Labor's primary vote has risen 4 points to 33 per cent since December, while Ms Gillard's approval is up 5 points to 40 per cent. Her preferred-PM rating has increased by 6 points to 48 per cent, ahead of Mr Abbott's 46 per cent, which was steady.

The government has improved its two-party vote by 4 points to 47 per cent, but trails the Coalition on 53 per cent, down 4 points. The Coalition would win an election held now on a swing of about 3 per cent.

Labor has its highest primary vote since March last year and its best two-party preferred vote since November 2010. But Labor's primary vote is still 5 points lower than at the August 2010 election.

The Coalition's primary vote has dropped 4 points to 45 per cent; the Greens are up 2 points to 13 per cent.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/lifeline-for-besieged-gillard-20120205-1qzvo.h...

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Re: Newspoll ~ Abbott/Gillard Still Sliding
Reply #7 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:01am

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 11:25pm:

Age/Nielsen poll

Michelle Grattan
February 6, 2012

JULIA Gillard has received a boost in Labor's vote and leads Tony Abbott as preferred prime minister for the first time in nine months, in an Age/Nielsen poll that will give the embattled leader some relief as the government reels from intense speculation about her future.

Labor's primary vote has risen 4 points to 33 per cent since December, while Ms Gillard's approval is up 5 points to 40 per cent. Her preferred-PM rating has increased by 6 points to 48 per cent, ahead of Mr Abbott's 46 per cent, which was steady.

The government has improved its two-party vote by 4 points to 47 per cent, but trails the Coalition on 53 per cent, down 4 points. The Coalition would win an election held now on a swing of about 3 per cent.

Labor has its highest primary vote since March last year and its best two-party preferred vote since November 2010. But Labor's primary vote is still 5 points lower than at the August 2010 election.

The Coalition's primary vote has dropped 4 points to 45 per cent; the Greens are up 2 points to 13 per cent.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/lifeline-for-besieged-gillard-20120205-1qzvo.h...

6 points is chump change, that can be easily made up in a year and a half, provided Labor don't royally f*ck it up.

It's a testament to Abbott and the Howard Worshippers stranglehold on the Coalition that those preferred leader numbers haven't scared them one bit.

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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: Newspoll ~ Abbott/Gillard Still Sliding Reply #8 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:15am I don't have a lot of faith in Nielsen polls. I pay far more attention to Newspoll, as do most commentators and pundits. Besides, 53-47 is still a thrashing in any man's language.
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Newspoll ~ Abbott/Gillard Still Sliding Reply #9 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:17am Labor have polled down in the low 30s and below for over a year and a half now. They NEED to throw away the carbon tax. That has been their undoing more than anything. They will never re-capture votes like mine with it.
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Re: Newspoll ~ Abbott/Gillard Still Sliding
Reply #10 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:21am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:17am:

Labor have polled down in the low 30s and below for over a year and a half now.

They NEED to throw away the carbon tax.

That has been their undoing more than anything.

They will never re-capture votes like mine with it.

Would you ever vote for the ALP anyway, though? And aren't you in the US?

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Re: Newspoll ~ Abbott/Gillard Still Sliding
Reply #11 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:23am

matty wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:21am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:17am:

Labor have polled down in the low 30s and below for over a year and a half now.

They NEED to throw away the carbon tax.

That has been their undoing more than anything.

They will never re-capture votes like mine with it.

Would you ever vote for the ALP anyway, though? And aren't you in the US?

Yep I would vote for anyone if their policies were right Matty.
I have voted for various parties in my life, I have no party allegiance - more what is right for my family and the community.
I do live in the USA but am not a citizen and don't vote in their elections.

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Re: Newspoll ~ Abbott/Gillard Still Sliding
Reply #12 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:26am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:23am:

matty wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:21am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:17am:

Labor have polled down in the low 30s and below for over a year and a half now.

They NEED to throw away the carbon tax.

That has been their undoing more than anything.

They will never re-capture votes like mine with it.

Would you ever vote for the ALP anyway, though? And aren't you in the US?

Yep I would vote for anyone if their policies were right Matty.
I have voted for various parties in my life, I have no party allegiance - more what is right for my family and the community.
I do live in the USA but am not a citizen and don't vote in their elections.

But are you allowed to vote in Australia if you live somewhere else permanently?

I have always been very conservative, so I would never vote for any party apart from the Libs (of which I am a member). My parents are left-wing Socialists, and they'll be voting Liberal. My mother used to be die-hard Labor, but now hates their guts.

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Re: Newspoll ~ Abbott/Gillard Still Sliding
Reply #13 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:29am

matty wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:26am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:23am:

matty wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:21am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:17am:

Labor have polled down in the low 30s and below for over a year and a half now.

They NEED to throw away the carbon tax.

That has been their undoing more than anything.

They will never re-capture votes like mine with it.

Would you ever vote for the ALP anyway, though? And aren't you in the US?

Yep I would vote for anyone if their policies were right Matty.
I have voted for various parties in my life, I have no party allegiance - more what is right for my family and the community.
I do live in the USA but am not a citizen and don't vote in their elections.

But are you allowed to vote in Australia if yoy live somewhere else permanently?

I have always been very conservative, so I would never vote for any party apart from the Libs (of which I am a member). My parents are left-wing Socialists, and they'll be voting Liberal. My mother used to be die-hard Labor, but now hates their guts.

I thought you used to be a member of the Greens?
I may be thinking of someone else.

You can vote in Australian elections if you are an Australian living elsewhere, as long as you don't vote in that country's election.

Actually one of the busiest polling stations in the Australian Federal Election is Australia House, London.

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Re: Newspoll ~ Abbott/Gillard Still Sliding
Reply #14 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:34am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:29am:

matty wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:26am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:23am:

matty wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:21am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:17am:

Labor have polled down in the low 30s and below for over a year and a half now.

They NEED to throw away the carbon tax.

That has been their undoing more than anything.

They will never re-capture votes like mine with it.

Would you ever vote for the ALP anyway, though? And aren't you in the US?

Yep I would vote for anyone if their policies were right Matty.
I have voted for various parties in my life, I have no party allegiance - more what is right for my family and the community.
I do live in the USA but am not a citizen and don't vote in their elections.

But are you allowed to vote in Australia if yoy live somewhere else permanently?

I have always been very conservative, so I would never vote for any party apart from the Libs (of which I am a member). My parents are left-wing Socialists, and they'll be voting Liberal. My mother used to be die-hard Labor, but now hates their guts.

I thought you used to be a member of the Greens?
I may be thinking of someone else.

You can vote in Australian elections if you are an Australian living elsewhere, as long as you don't vote in that country's election.

Actually one of the busiest polling stations in the Australian Federal Election is Australia House, London.

That was a white lie that become a bit out of hand. I am conservative, and always have been. Most people seem to think that I am extreme-right, for some reason.

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