Kat wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 9:38am:


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Nobody would hire you for a job beyond your physical strength.

Are you serious? Who'd consider you for fruit-picking?Apart from that you wouldn't give a dollar's worth, you could get hurt and your employer would be sued!

A doctor's certificate would clear you from a job you aren't fit for, as for sedentary jobs, not many of those about!

I know. . .

When my ex walked out on me and his kids, I was forced to work in a cafe.

Yep I, who was on butazolodin for rheumatoid arthritis.

This effort cost me five knee operations (so far) and a back that can't be operated on.

Not complaining, just explaining.

olde.sault wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 11:59am:




They are a small minority, why should the rest suffer?

Kat wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 9:38am:


And you aren't included in that list then are you???
Young, Able-bodied.....

Kat wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:55pm:


I'm talking about young, healthy males, not someone who has lived and done work beyond their physical strength, who would gladly occupy a chair in an office for half the pay of menial tasks.

However, such positions are reserved for the young, those who wear a mini that crawls up their thighs, misspell and compose sentences incoherently.

The truth is more important than the facts.

Frank Lloyd Wright (1869 - 1959)

Firstly it is the political parties that choose their leader based on opinion polls and public perception not the public who vote for local members not the Prime Minister. Julia Gillard no more stabbed Kevin Rudd in the back than Tony Abbott knifed Malcolm Turnbull, it is called politics and leaders are decided by factions within each party and their ability to win elections.

Then we have the Pacific solution which was no solution at all and punished genuine refugees trying to flee tyranny to a country that would grant them asylum. Howard's own party where threatening to cross the floor in the dying days of his leadership because of the inhumane treatment of genuine refugees under this brutal and callous policy of intimidation and persecution. Now both the ALP and Coalition have resorted to dog whistles to try and use the plight of asylum seekers for domestic political gain and have now created a situation where off shore processing is no longer a deterrent and treating asylum seekers like animals has become good politics.

The pink bats was a poorly run policy and deserves criticism however I could also point to Coalition policies and decisions during the Howard years that also wasted billions of dollars and caused the deaths of many people such as selling off our gold reserves, selling off public assets, bailing out the PM's brother and going to war in Afghanistan and Iraq.

The school halls program did have some waste mainly in NSW however most projects where found to be value for money and schools that received much needed buildings like libraries, gymnasiums and class rooms are now seeing the benefits of a program that boosted our economy and provided many jobs when they where most needed. The fallacy about the waste of billions is conservative spin and is not supported by the overwhelming evidence.

The deficit the Coalition keep carrying on about was mainly the cause of lost revenue due to the GFC and would have occurred no matter who won the 2007 election and lets not forget the Coalition promised more spending than the ALP in the lead up to the election meaning an even bigger deficit would have been delivered. The Coalition also advocated for more tax cuts instead of a one off stimulus that the ALP opted for meaning the budget revenue would have been further eroded forcing the budget into even greater structural deficit than it is now.

The carbon tax was introduced as a consequence of the Gillard Government forming an alliance with the Greens and placing a price on carbon which is considered the most cost effective way to combat climate change and reduce Australia's emissions to the same level the Coalition have agreed to. However Direct Action will cost far more to deliver the same cuts in emissions and taxpayers will pay for it not the big polluters who will pass any associated costs onto consumers anyway.

Direct Action is also fundamentally flawed as 60% of the required cut in emissions is achieved by storing carbon in soil which is not currently counted in the protocol, labor are also proposing using this unproven technology however they have not counted the projected reductions in their policy because of that reason. Farmers have also questioned the amount of compensation that the Coalition are offering and have stated the price will have to much higher before they will even consider accepting the proposal.

The CSIRO have also questioned the amount of carbon that can be stored in soil and have criticized the Coalition for basing their policy on false assumptions that have not been proven or tested, the CSIRO have not achieved anywhere near the expectations they originally hoped for in trials. Direct Action is a complete waste of money and the Coalition would be better off dumping Direct Action than trying to pass this dog off to the Australian people as environment policy.

The Labor party are their own worst enemy and are giving Tony Abbott a free kick by allowing their own internal bickering to interfere with selling the message of our strong economy and ability to take advantage of the large amount of investment that is in the pipe line for the benefit of all Australian's.

Tony Abbott will rip apart the NBN and leave Australia with a second rate communications network which is the heart of an effective economy and technological society that is far removed from each other over our vast continent.

Dumping the Mining Tax and cutting $70 billion from the budget will have a detrimental effect on the economy and effect growth and job creation that can only be shored up by lowering wages and taking away workers rights to create a low paid work force to compete with Asia and further the divide between the rich and poor.

Abbott's paid maternity leave is to expensive and will be paid for with a tax on businesses (until it can be paid for by the taxpayer) as well as forcing companies to give woman 6 months off while they keep their job open.

Tony Abbott is not offering Australian's anything but doing less and doing nothing while the rich keep sucking off the taxpayer and give less back in return. I am all for lowering taxes and having smaller Government as the tea party in America have made their mantra but I do not want Australian's to think it will be achieved without someone making a sacrifice.

You have been warned!!!

What no comment on the rest of the post Macca???

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 6:38am:


Not what happened? Gillard was very reluctant to stand.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 6:38am:


It was an election commitment supported by the voters, You know how they feel about people changing their mind on election promises. As it turns out we find that the pacific solution had always been illegal.


Then we saw the pink batts program

Insulated millions of homes - some contractors behaved badly and or were not qualified for the work.

as well as houses burning to the ground.

At a significantly lower rate than under the Howard government.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 6:38am:


This was an exceptional success with all but a few delivering value for money and the few failures on value were all due to rushing the process in order to get the best results in stimulus.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 6:38am:


They got through the GFC in better condition than any part of the western world and Keating is acknowledged as one of the best economic managers ever probably even supperior to Mr Costello who also rates high..

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 6:38am:


Stupid meaningless promise to make - just stupid.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 6:38am:


Yep she deserves all the criticism possible for that along with all the others responsible.

Alot of your justifications are factually incorrect.

The next election will come down to what policies are on offer from the major players.....Tony Abbott will have to prove his policies will be better for Australia than the ALP alternative.....Until we see what Abbott is offering we cannot predict what will happen!!!

Maqqa wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:05pm:


rudd had been elected as the pm by some misled aussies. but elected he was. then he was dumped without regard to those that voted him in.
turnbull had not ben voted in by a general election.
there is a huge difference.

under the alp, they promise one thing, then deliver another with disregard to voters.