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Is there a ring of paedophiles in Australia
Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:14pm

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My reason for thinking that there is a ring of paedophiles high up in Australian government or at least influential positions with a lot of cash to burn is that our laws for paedophiles are disgusting.
We are fairly strict on most things in Australia.
But paedophiles seem to always get away with a slap on the wrist and then they are back around children in no time.

Wouldn’t most people agree that paedophilia is probably the most serious crime in society today?
If the population of Australia was able to vote on what their punishment should be, I'm sure majority would be in the life in jail-death category.

If there arent some influential people out there making these laws so soft.. How did it come to be that we are so soft on pedo's?

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Re: Is there a ring of paedophiles in Australia
Reply #1 - Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:30pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:14pm:

PLEASE READ BEFORE YOU VOTE IN THE POLL...

My reason for thinking that there is a ring of paedophiles high up in Australian government or at least influential positions with a lot of cash to burn is that our laws for paedophiles are disgusting.
We are fairly strict on most things in Australia.
But paedophiles seem to always get away with a slap on the wrist and then they are back around children in no time.

Wouldn’t most people agree that paedophilia is probably the most serious crime in society today?
If the population of Australia was able to vote on what their punishment should be, I'm sure majority would be in the life in jail-death category.

If there arent some influential people out there making these laws so soft.. How did it come to be that we are so soft on pedo's?

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Re: Is there a ring of paedophiles in Australia
Reply #2 - Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:32pm

The problem you face is the laws surrounding evidence and the need to establish guilt beyond doubt. We will often be outraged over a news article claiming this and that but unless you are in court and hear the evidence you can not know where the truth may lay.
Paedophiles are the most evil of deviates and when found guilt should be gaoled until to old to be out of a home and named in the community openly. They are never to be trusted again, that also goes for anyone convicted of a sexual crime. All criminals should also br billed for their incarceration.

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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: Is there a ring of paedophiles in Australia Reply #3 - Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:34pm Quote: but unless you are in court and hear the evidence you can not know where the truth may lay. That is correct.
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Re: Is there a ring of paedophiles in Australia
Reply #4 - Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:34pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:30pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:14pm:

PLEASE READ BEFORE YOU VOTE IN THE POLL...

My reason for thinking that there is a ring of paedophiles high up in Australian government or at least influential positions with a lot of cash to burn is that our laws for paedophiles are disgusting.
We are fairly strict on most things in Australia.
But paedophiles seem to always get away with a slap on the wrist and then they are back around children in no time.

Wouldn’t most people agree that paedophilia is probably the most serious crime in society today?
If the population of Australia was able to vote on what their punishment should be, I'm sure majority would be in the life in jail-death category.

If there arent some influential people out there making these laws so soft.. How did it come to be that we are so soft on pedo's?

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Re: Is there a ring of paedophiles in Australia
Reply #5 - Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:36pm

nairbe wrote on Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:32pm:

The problem you face is the laws surrounding evidence and the need to establish guilt beyond doubt. We will often be outraged over a news article claiming this and that but unless you are in court and hear the evidence you can not know where the truth may lay.
Paedophiles are the most evil of deviates and when found guilt should be gaoled until to old to be out of a home and named in the community openly. They are never to be trusted again, that also goes for anyone convicted of a sexual crime. All criminals should also br billed for their incarceration.

True, you make a good point which I should have thought about.
But in many cases there is reasonable evidence and still they will get away with a slap on the wrist.
And people who have been found guilty are often living next to schools or something within a couple of months.
I know they deserve due process.
But its obvious in some cases that something is wrong.

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Re: Is there a ring of paedophiles in Australia
Reply #6 - Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:37pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:34pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:30pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:14pm:

PLEASE READ BEFORE YOU VOTE IN THE POLL...

My reason for thinking that there is a ring of paedophiles high up in Australian government or at least influential positions with a lot of cash to burn is that our laws for paedophiles are disgusting.
We are fairly strict on most things in Australia.
But paedophiles seem to always get away with a slap on the wrist and then they are back around children in no time.

Wouldn’t most people agree that paedophilia is probably the most serious crime in society today?
If the population of Australia was able to vote on what their punishment should be, I'm sure majority would be in the life in jail-death category.

If there arent some influential people out there making these laws so soft.. How did it come to be that we are so soft on pedo's?

no.

Well one of.

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Re: Is there a ring of paedophiles in Australia
Reply #7 - Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:38pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:36pm:

nairbe wrote on Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:32pm:

The problem you face is the laws surrounding evidence and the need to establish guilt beyond doubt. We will often be outraged over a news article claiming this and that but unless you are in court and hear the evidence you can not know where the truth may lay.
Paedophiles are the most evil of deviates and when found guilt should be gaoled until to old to be out of a home and named in the community openly. They are never to be trusted again, that also goes for anyone convicted of a sexual crime. All criminals should also br billed for their incarceration.

True, you make a good point which I should have thought about.
But in many cases there is reasonable evidence and still they will get away with a slap on the wrist.
And people who have been found guilty are often living next to schools or something within a couple of months.
I know they deserve due process.
But its obvious in some cases that something is wrong.

the trouble with your position is that is it NOTHING MORE THAN HYSTERICAL NONSENSE.

That doesnt help your case.

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Re: Is there a ring of paedophiles in Australia
Reply #8 - Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:42pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:38pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:36pm:

nairbe wrote on Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:32pm:

The problem you face is the laws surrounding evidence and the need to establish guilt beyond doubt. We will often be outraged over a news article claiming this and that but unless you are in court and hear the evidence you can not know where the truth may lay.
Paedophiles are the most evil of deviates and when found guilt should be gaoled until to old to be out of a home and named in the community openly. They are never to be trusted again, that also goes for anyone convicted of a sexual crime. All criminals should also br billed for their incarceration.

True, you make a good point which I should have thought about.
But in many cases there is reasonable evidence and still they will get away with a slap on the wrist.
And people who have been found guilty are often living next to schools or something within a couple of months.
I know they deserve due process.
But its obvious in some cases that something is wrong.

the trouble with your position is that is it NOTHING MORE THAN HYSTERICAL NONSENSE.

That doesnt help your case.

Yes it is hysterically insane to want paedophiles to be brought to justice.
Im just trying to work out why they get such an easy time when people who have 000.1grams of weed get crazy sentences

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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: Is there a ring of paedophiles in Australia Reply #9 - Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:46pm Quote: Im just trying to work out why they get such an easy time when people who have 000.1grams of weed get crazy sentences What? like a $100 fine and no conviction recorded?
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Re: Is there a ring of paedophiles in Australia
Reply #10 - Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:52pm

There are probably plenty of paedophiles in positions of responsibility in Australia, but I don't think this is why we have lenient sentencing. We have lenient sentencing because we haven't demanded anything stronger.

I won't go into it here because there's a whole active thread on it somewhere else, but it's my opinion that the death penalty should apply to certain serial sex offenders.

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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Posts: 7062 Gender:	Re: Is there a ring of paedophiles in Australia Reply #11 - Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:53pm Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:46pm: Quote: Im just trying to work out why they get such an easy time when people who have 000.1grams of weed get crazy sentences What? like a $100 fine and no conviction recorded? Is that the penalty in QLD?
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Is there a ring of paedophiles in Australia Reply #12 - Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:54pm Christ!!!! Not MORE paedo-hysteria?
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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Posts: 7062 Gender:	Re: Is there a ring of paedophiles in Australia Reply #13 - Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:57pm What's your problem, Kat? You used to be cool, now you're being a dick.
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Re: Is there a ring of paedophiles in Australia
Reply #14 - Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:59pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:53pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:46pm:

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Im just trying to work out why they get such an easy time when people who have 000.1grams of weed get crazy sentences

What? like a $100 fine and no conviction recorded?

Is that the penalty in QLD?

Considering Qld has the toughest drug laws, if you got busted with only a gram or so (let alone 1/10th of gram), you have no priors and have a have a half average mouth piece, you'll walk out of court with a tiny fine, no conviction recorded and at worse have to attend a short drug ed course.

In NSW you wouldn't even have to front court. You'd probably just get an infringement notice for such a piddling amount.

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Clearly, or else laws would be stricter. 6 (35.3%) No 7 (41.2%) Maybe 4 (23.5%) Probably just rich and influtential 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 17 « Created by: bobbythefap1 on: Jan 29^th, 2012 at 3:14pm »