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England crashes to defeat to Pakistan spinners
Jan 29^th, 2012 at 12:32pm

Left-arm spinner Abdul Rehman took a career best 6-25 to help Pakistan humble England by 72 runs in the second Test in Abu Dhabi, to giving Pakistan unassailable 2-0 lead in the three-match series.

The 31-year-old twice took two wickets in successive overs to dent England's chase after Andrew Strauss's side was set a 145-run target on a weary fourth-day Abu Dhabi Stadium pitch.

England was all out for 72 - its lowest total against Pakistan in all Tests.

Rehman's effort overshadowed Monty Panesar's 6-62, in his first Test for England in 30 months, which finished Pakistan's second innings at 214 in the morning.

This is England's first series defeat after being unbeaten in its previous nine since a loss to the West Indies in early 2009 - a sequence which saw it rise to world No.1 in the Test rankings in August.

Pakistan won the first Test in Dubai by 10 wickets. The third Test will also be played in Dubai, from Friday.

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philperth2010 Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21097 Perth Gender:	Re: England crashes to defeat to Pakistan spinners Reply #1 - Jan 29^th, 2012 at 12:34pm England cannot be underestimated but this defeat is quite surprising....Bowled out for 72??? http://m.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/england-crashes-to-defeat-to-pakistan-spinners...
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nairbe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2587 Rural NSW Gender:	Re: England crashes to defeat to Pakistan spinners Reply #2 - Jan 29^th, 2012 at 1:48pm That is two nill in a three test series. England simply cannot play spin. This has been their big problem for a long time. Pity we do not have any really top spinners at the moment. We must hope Lyon will learn and grow over the next two years.
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Reply #3 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 11:08am

Another titanic struggle. Pakistan out for 99 and england 6/104 lead by 5 runs. What a game. They are claiming to have the best bowling attacks in the world, i would think they are funny pitches. I have never known the POMS to have a great attack for more than a couple of seasons. Then they just go to pieces.

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Reply #4 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:50pm

You could have a point about the pitches Nairbe???

Immediate impressions were that England had bowled well and Pakistan batted especially poorly on a perfectly feasible pitch of decent pace, with just occasional seam movement.

But that premise looked ropy as the reply stumbled to seven for two before tea.

But Pietersen was to become the eighth lbw victim of the day, and world-record 34th for any three-match series.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-2095949/Stuart-Broad-James-Ande...

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Reply #5 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 8:49pm

OH those LBW's can raise an eyebrow or two but the ones i have seen replayed do seem fair enough. Maybe the bounce is a little so so.
Day Two the POMs out for 141 and Pakistan 2/120 at tea. This is really a great series for Pakistan. Only the second wicketless session in the series. Can not help myself just love to see the POMs struggle.

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nairbe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2587 Rural NSW Gender:	Re: England crashes to defeat to Pakistan spinners Reply #6 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 7:26am Pakistan 2/222 at stumps. Could be a great run chase to come by England. With the pitch dying and the game not going long enough for it to start to crumble for the spinners i would think Pakistan will need 300+ to be able to pressure the POMs.
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Re: England crashes to defeat to Pakistan spinners
Reply #7 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 10:20am

nairbe wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 7:26am:

Pakistan 2/222 at stumps. Could be a great run chase to come by England. With the pitch dying and the game not going long enough for it to start to crumble for the spinners i would think Pakistan will need 300+ to be able to pressure the POMs.

Thanks Nairbe....I find myself backing Pakistan to beat the POMES and send them home in disgrace.....I think the POMES are arrogant in victory and do not take defeat well.....Something I did not like in the past Australian sides!!!

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Re: England crashes to defeat to Pakistan spinners
Reply #8 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 12:33pm

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POMES

You do realise that the whole "Prisoner Of Mother England" thing as for why we call them Poms is pure nonsense?

We haven't been calling them Poms for that long. Maybe 120 years max and many decades after the convict transport thing ended.

People just like explaining away the etymology of common words by thinking of acronyms. In the vast majority of cases they are simply wrong.

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Re: England crashes to defeat to Pakistan spinners
Reply #9 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 12:56pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 12:33pm:

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POMES

You do realise that the whole "Prisoner Of Mother England" thing as for why we call them Poms is pure nonsense?

We haven't been calling them Poms for that long. Maybe 120 years max and many decades after the convict transport thing ended.

People just like explaining away the etymology of common words by thinking of acronyms. In the vast majority of cases they are simply wrong.

OK.....Poms then.....does it matter really???

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Re: England crashes to defeat to Pakistan spinners
Reply #10 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 6:32am

Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 12:33pm:

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POMES

You do realise that the whole "Prisoner Of Mother England" thing as for why we call them Poms is pure nonsense?

We haven't been calling them Poms for that long. Maybe 120 years max and many decades after the convict transport thing ended.

People just like explaining away the etymology of common words by thinking of acronyms. In the vast majority of cases they are simply wrong.

This is a cricket thread. The English cricket team are to be called what ever we like, so go jump. Tongue

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Re: England crashes to defeat to Pakistan spinners
Reply #11 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 6:37am

DAY OF GLORY

[size=12]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-06/pakistan-whitewashes-england/3814502?section=sport

The Pommies have bit the dust with a three nill white wash Cry

OH yes my heart bleeds bucket loads.

The big questions now are can Pakistan do it on the more bouncy wickets of England, SA and Aus or is it a flash in the pan, and secondly can we get Lyon and another spinner up for the next Ashes. I would think the development of spinners would be job NO:1 as the Poms simply cannot play spin. The other good news is that Swann looked ordinary on a turning pitch. /size

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Re: England crashes to defeat to Pakistan spinners
Reply #12 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 2:16pm

nairbe wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 6:37am:

DAY OF GLORY

[size=12]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-06/pakistan-whitewashes-england/3814502?section=sport

The Pommies have bit the dust with a three nill white wash Cry

OH yes my heart bleeds bucket loads.

The big questions now are can Pakistan do it on the more bouncy wickets of England, SA and Aus or is it a flash in the pan, and secondly can we get Lyon and another spinner up for the next Ashes. I would think the development of spinners would be job NO:1 as the Poms simply cannot play spin. The other good news is that Swann looked ordinary on a turning pitch. /size

First time the POMS have been white washed by the Paki's.....how upsetting!!!

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: England crashes to defeat to Pakistan spinners Reply #13 - Feb 12^th, 2012 at 11:21am So pakistan swept the top-ranked nation, and last time aus played pakistan we drew with them 1-1. Therefore australia is the equal number 1 test nation.
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