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Reply #31 - Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:27am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:22am:

cods wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 9:00am:

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Better question- What is an EXCEPTED profit margin?

a good point.. to do that though we would also have to take into account..

what is an excepted wage.

what is an accepted rent to charge.

what is an accepted level of TAX local. state govt and Fed govt... they all have a bite of this cherry.[ and not just when it arrives here]

what is an accepted level of import duty

a person orders overseas... it get put in a mail bag it arrives at a destination here .where it is then delivered to the person.

for H.N. to sell a toaster.. it has to be transported by shipping container.to a destination.

it then gets TRANSPORTED to a WAREHOUSE where it is unpacked..

it is then REORDERED and TRANSPORTED to HN outlets..

the point I am making here.. is that each of the highlighted stops... all those costs more or less are involved and they all get passed down the line.. to guess WHO!

we do have high wages in this country we do have high holidays and public holidays amongst also the best in the world I believe..

I am not knocking what anyone does with their own money

I do think its shameful our treasurer has a shot at GH.very publicaly..was that to get in his moot point about it being to expensive to protect our retail market.... maybe he should take a turn at being immigration ministers where he could keep an eye on the cost of protecting our borders

If you or I buy something overseas it is transported to Australia and goes into a warehouse and is also unpacked and recorded then sorted and transported to its destination, all paid for by the customer.

Same peocess mostly half the price without the bulk rate discounts etc.

i.e. Harvey pays less than half the transport cost that you or I cough up.

And that employes transport staff,warehouse staff,office staff,sales staff, and so on Grin

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Reply #32 - Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:27am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:22am:

cods wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 9:00am:

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Better question- What is an EXCEPTED profit margin?

a good point.. to do that though we would also have to take into account..

what is an excepted wage.

what is an accepted rent to charge.

what is an accepted level of TAX local. state govt and Fed govt... they all have a bite of this cherry.[ and not just when it arrives here]

what is an accepted level of import duty

a person orders overseas... it get put in a mail bag it arrives at a destination here .where it is then delivered to the person.

for H.N. to sell a toaster.. it has to be transported by shipping container.to a destination.

it then gets TRANSPORTED to a WAREHOUSE where it is unpacked..

it is then REORDERED and TRANSPORTED to HN outlets..

the point I am making here.. is that each of the highlighted stops... all those costs more or less are involved and they all get passed down the line.. to guess WHO!

we do have high wages in this country we do have high holidays and public holidays amongst also the best in the world I believe..

I am not knocking what anyone does with their own money

I do think its shameful our treasurer has a shot at GH.very publicaly..was that to get in his moot point about it being to expensive to protect our retail market.... maybe he should take a turn at being immigration ministers where he could keep an eye on the cost of protecting our borders

If you or I buy something overseas it is transported to Australia and goes into a warehouse and is also unpacked and recorded then sorted and transported to its destination, all paid for by the customer.

Same peocess mostly half the price without the bulk rate discounts etc.

i.e. Harvey pays less than half the transport cost that you or I cough up.

I will find out about that dna I know someone who works with IPEC.. but I would think it would run on the same lines as the postoffice its addressed to you personally.. why would it end up in a warehouse.

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Reply #33 - Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:31am

Here is a sample I have been looking at recently – I sourced the product from Australia in the end (paid more for less).

A choice of drum kits.

Kit 1 from a US bricks and mortar music shop – the product between $900 and $1,100 Plus transport – this is about 70K best price I found was about $280. This will also attract Import duty and GST 5% and 10% respective or about $180.

Total cost aprox $1,500 same product in Australia between $2,400 and $2,600.

Product no 2 – very nice kit selling US $1,700 – in Australia all expenses properly paid for about $2,200

Australian price is between $3,200 and $4,000.

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Reply #34 - Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:37am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:31am:

Here is a sample I have been looking at recently – I sourced the product from Australia in the end (paid more for less).

A choice of drum kits.

Kit 1 from a US bricks and mortar music shop – the product between $900 and $1,100 Plus transport – this is about 70K best price I found was about $280. This will also attract Import duty and GST 5% and 10% respective or about $180.

Total cost aprox $1,500 same product in Australia between $2,400 and $2,600.

Product no 2 – very nice kit selling US $1,700 – in Australia all expenses properly paid for about $2,200

Australian price is between $3,200 and $4,000.

American wages lower , no holiday loading,nowere near the holidays, and on and on and on Angry

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Reply #35 - Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:38am

FRED. wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:37am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:31am:

Here is a sample I have been looking at recently – I sourced the product from Australia in the end (paid more for less).

A choice of drum kits.

Kit 1 from a US bricks and mortar music shop – the product between $900 and $1,100 Plus transport – this is about 70K best price I found was about $280. This will also attract Import duty and GST 5% and 10% respective or about $180.

Total cost aprox $1,500 same product in Australia between $2,400 and $2,600.

Product no 2 – very nice kit selling US $1,700 – in Australia all expenses properly paid for about $2,200

Australian price is between $3,200 and $4,000.

American wages lower , no holiday loading,nowere near the holidays, and on and on and on Angry

I BUY FISHING GEAR FROM THE STATES ROUGHLY 1/2 THE PRICE Wink

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Reply #36 - Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:41am

cods wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:27am:

I will find out about that dna I know someone who works with IPEC.. but I would think it would run on the same lines as the postoffice its addressed to you personally.. why would it end up in a warehouse.

Do you think Customs take it from the ship and put it onto a dilivery truck going to your suburb?

They will bring it in on a bulk load it will be unpacked and sorted in some location where records will be kept and it will then be grouped according to the region it is being delivered to and sent on to a secondary dispatch centre in that region where it will be unpacked and sorted for local delivery. these days it is all itemised for the higher profile companies you can track the location and progress. Even at the sending end it will be dispatched the same way.

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Reply #37 - Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:45am

FRED. wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:37am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:31am:

Here is a sample I have been looking at recently – I sourced the product from Australia in the end (paid more for less).

A choice of drum kits.

Kit 1 from a US bricks and mortar music shop – the product between $900 and $1,100 Plus transport – this is about 70K best price I found was about $280. This will also attract Import duty and GST 5% and 10% respective or about $180.

Total cost aprox $1,500 same product in Australia between $2,400 and $2,600.

Product no 2 – very nice kit selling US $1,700 – in Australia all expenses properly paid for about $2,200

Australian price is between $3,200 and $4,000.

American wages lower , no holiday loading,nowere near the holidays, and on and on and on

You could pay a poo load of holiday loading with a $1,000 markup per item sold, you could probably employ several thousand people.

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Reply #39 - Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:47am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:45am:

FRED. wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:37am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:31am:

Here is a sample I have been looking at recently – I sourced the product from Australia in the end (paid more for less).

A choice of drum kits.

Kit 1 from a US bricks and mortar music shop – the product between $900 and $1,100 Plus transport – this is about 70K best price I found was about $280. This will also attract Import duty and GST 5% and 10% respective or about $180.

Total cost aprox $1,500 same product in Australia between $2,400 and $2,600.

Product no 2 – very nice kit selling US $1,700 – in Australia all expenses properly paid for about $2,200

Australian price is between $3,200 and $4,000.

American wages lower , no holiday loading,nowere near the holidays, and on and on and on

You could pay a poo load of holiday loading with a $1,000 markup per item sold, you could probably employ several thousand people.

FFS

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Reply #40 - Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:49am

cods wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:04am:

perceptions_now wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 9:54am:

cods wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 9:02am:

perceptions_now wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 8:39am:

blackadder wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 8:35am:

It has found that the same pair of Nike running shoes costs $240 at a major Australian sports retailer while consumers can buy the same shoes for $134 from an online store based in the US. Sad

It's called volume Crook something that Choice knows nothing about.

300,000,000 V 21,000,000

Choice magazine is only good for emergency toilet paper.

Blackadder,
Are you having problems with the "quote buttons", as a few others have had or is it that you just don't like using that method?

I cant work out how to use it percy.... I know you are not surprised...
I would also like to inquire why the getup thread is safe on the front page of PS>

Cods,
Please explain?

You just used the "quote button", so what is it that you don't know how to use?

this is embarrasing perc... I mean when they get all these little quotes from different posts to answer all at the same time..in little boxes... but then I am lucky to switch on and off on this thing..

take no notice of me perce when it comes to the computer I am thick..nayyy more than thick. goes with age I think

Don't worry about it Cods, we're all in the same boat!

Getting older, that is!

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Re: Wayne Swans Harsh Words To Gerry Harvey.
Reply #41 - Dec 24^th, 2011 at 11:52am

blackadder wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 7:07am:

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Peter of Subiaco Posted at 9:45 AM December 23, 2011

When will Gerry get the hint that it's not GST that consumers are trying to dodge by purchasing off-shore? 10% is nothing. If the government did apply GST to purchases <$1000, even after paying $60 shipping + GST I would still be $300 better off on a entry level DSLR camera if I bought it from an off-shore retailer than if I bought it off Gerry (either online or offline). His point about GST being the issue is completely moot. The issue is his 400% markup and greed that he has been getting away with for years and years. Consumers are waking up now and smelling the fresh air. Hey, add 10% GST to my $550 overseas digital camera, I don't care. Harvey normal still want $999 for the same model!

Like you Crook, Peter of Subiaco has no bloody idea either.

400% mark up?????? What a wank.

It's a typo d.ckhead. He obviously means $400 markup not %400 but of course the underlying message of ripping off the punters gets lost on a liberal stooge !!

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Reply #42 - Dec 24^th, 2011 at 12:06pm

perceptions_now wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:49am:

cods wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:04am:

perceptions_now wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 9:54am:

cods wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 9:02am:

perceptions_now wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 8:39am:

blackadder wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 8:35am:

It has found that the same pair of Nike running shoes costs $240 at a major Australian sports retailer while consumers can buy the same shoes for $134 from an online store based in the US. Sad

It's called volume Crook something that Choice knows nothing about.

300,000,000 V 21,000,000

Choice magazine is only good for emergency toilet paper.

Blackadder,
Are you having problems with the "quote buttons", as a few others have had or is it that you just don't like using that method?

I cant work out how to use it percy.... I know you are not surprised...
I would also like to inquire why the getup thread is safe on the front page of PS>

Cods,
Please explain?

You just used the "quote button", so what is it that you don't know how to use?

this is embarrasing perc... I mean when they get all these little quotes from different posts to answer all at the same time..in little boxes... but then I am lucky to switch on and off on this thing..

take no notice of me perce when it comes to the computer I am thick..nayyy more than thick. goes with age I think

Don't worry about it Cods, we're all in the same boat!

Getting older, that is!

While we're on about the oldies and technology perce, why the heck do those lights keep flashing on and off all the time? Something to do with Christmas? Wink

On the first page in front of all the headings. They did it when freediver first changed us over, then they stopped and now they're at it again.

No I have not been into the cooking sherry

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Reply #43 - Dec 24^th, 2011 at 12:21pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:41am:

cods wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:27am:

I will find out about that dna I know someone who works with IPEC.. but I would think it would run on the same lines as the postoffice its addressed to you personally.. why would it end up in a warehouse.

Do you think Customs take it from the ship and put it onto a dilivery truck going to your suburb?

They will bring it in on a bulk load it will be unpacked and sorted in some location where records will be kept and it will then be grouped according to the region it is being delivered to and sent on to a secondary dispatch centre in that region where it will be unpacked and sorted for local delivery. these days it is all itemised for the higher profile companies you can track the location and progress. Even at the sending end it will be dispatched the same way.

dna wouldnt it be address to you though and come by MAIL...why would it come in a container.. and as far as I know most people claim they get it within a day or two no ship would get it here that quick..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I havent heard any complaints about som eones order being held up by a waterfront strike..

airlines and carriers have got to be laughing all the way to the bank

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Reply #44 - Dec 24^th, 2011 at 12:22pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 12:06pm: