Any normal Aussies who pays income tax who thinks this carbon tax will be a good thing is secretly masturbating over Labor.

This carbon tax is the mining tax in disguise, and some of you cannot see it, because you are so blinded by your environmental cause.

Two good friends of mine have already transported their manufacturing business to Indonesia to escape to carbon tax charges - loss of Aussies Jobs 290 and all other benefits.  They are just going to use one factory in Australia as a distribution centre.

2 Aussie businesses already gone from Australia thanks to greedy Gillard and her Green clowns.  Way to go Jules, now run in a buy me another schooner love or I’ll gave ya arse a slap, now that’s a good girl!!

culldav wrote on Oct 10^th, 2011 at 3:31pm:


Sorry that sounds like propaganda nothing more.
Your mates moved off shore to avoid a carbon tax of $23 p/tonne "BULLSH!T", your mates are not in the top 500 companies otherwise the job losses would be much higher.
Sorry but the flow on effects are not yet known exposed industry gets compo, punters get compo why would you move when circimstances are not yet known?
Secondly moving a business offshore is not a simple task planning, would have been in the works before the last election, sorry your mates moved to take advantage of low paid workers to increase their bottom line via wage cuts, nothing more, the carbon tax is just an easy out, to tell you so you mightn't think they are miserable arseholes which in fact they are.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Oct 10^th, 2011 at 3:45pm:




What many Australians don’t understand including the Prime Minister Julia Gillard and her clown brigade is: many countries welcome and encourage development in their countries, especially when it involves employment for its citizens, and Indonesia is one of these countries who go out of their way to welcome and encourage new business opportunities by reducing “red-tape”. 

You might be amazed to know that from start to end the whole process for both these businesses has only taken 10 months to arrange and develop.

Indonesia understand that employment for their people and manufacturing for there country is far more important than trying to impose some “make-believe” carbon tax on your people.  My friends are not greedy miserable arseholes trying to take advantage of a lower socio-economic country and its people by moving their businesses over to Indonesia. They have done so because the prime Minister of Australia is a deceitful bloody LIAR, and is trying to implement a tax that will do nothing to help fix global environmental problems.   

If want to believe that Gillard pissing on your leg is rain, then that’s your prerogative, but don’t be mad at other people for recognising piss is piss and not rain.

Write to Juliar and ask her what she is going to spend ALL the tax money on - you might just be surprise at the answer.

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hat is an assumption not a fact. despite CO2 continueing to increase over the last 10 years, temperatures have not. the supposed correlation of CO2 and temperature simply fails to materialise. ice ages occured with higher concentrations. warm periods had less and so on. CO2 concentration is not a driver of temperature and is more likely to be a result of it.

Im not being a denier. Im sceptical of the science because it keeps changing all the time. the predictions keep changing dramatically and in the meantime, temperatures have not exceeded normal climatic variations. 500 years ago you could sail around the north of Greenland. now you cant. what happened then?

nope. Co 2 is not the pollutant it is claimed to be. for goodness sake... FOOD one of our more pressing needs grows better in a CO2 rich environment.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Oct 10^th, 2011 at 6:58pm:


I too think that is a great idea. but that's not the argument, is it? the carbon tax isnt about renewable energy and never was. Thats a sideshow. if we were seriousl about R/E/ we would fund it and support it properly not using some ad hoc tax that maty or may not happen.

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 11^th, 2011 at 7:52am:


It has become a sideshow just as vested interested wished & this continuing argument on how to price Carbon just plays right into their hands.
Frankly it was probably an oil company that 1st suggested CO2 was warming the planet.

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 11^th, 2011 at 11:17am:


will direct action work? dont know. will carbon tax work? definately not.