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May 28th, 2011 at 10:25am
 
http://www.smh.com.au/national/hes-not-the-son-of-god-just-the-support-act-20110...

CHRISTIANS in Sydney will have their core beliefs challenged by provocative advertisements due to appear on billboards and buses in the next month.

The ads, paid for by an Islamic group called MyPeace, will carry slogans such as ''Jesus: a prophet of Islam'', ''Holy Quran: the final testament'' and ''Muhammad: mercy to mankind''.

A phone number urges people to call to receive a free Koran and other Islamic literature.
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The organiser of MyPeace, Diaa Mohamed, said the campaign was intended to educate non-Muslims about Islam. He said Jesus was a prophet of Islam, who was to come before Muhammad. ''The only difference is we say he was a prophet of God, and they say he is God,'' Mr Mohamed said. ''Is it thought-provoking? Yes, it is. We want to raise awareness that Islam believes in Jesus Christ,'' he said.

Mr Mohamed said he hoped the billboards would encourage Christians and Muslims to find common ground. They were not intended to downgrade the significance of Jesus. ''We embrace him and say that he was one of the mightiest prophets of God.''

MyPeace plans to extend the campaign, funded by private donations, to television.

The Anglican Bishop of South Sydney, Rob Forsyth, said it was ''complete nonsense'' to say Jesus was a prophet of Islam. ''Jesus was not the prophet of a religion that came into being 600 years later.''

But the billboard was not offensive, he said. ''They've got a perfect right to say it, and I would defend their right to say it [but] … you couldn't run a Christian billboard in Saudi Arabia.''

The bishop said he would pay for billboards to counter those of MyPeace if he could afford it, and ''maybe the atheists should run their billboards as well''.

A spokesman for the Australian Islamic Mission, Siddiq Buckley, said the campaign would increase awareness of the positive facts of Islam. ''I would be looking at this as a good opportunity to explain what we mean.''


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Reply #1 - May 28th, 2011 at 10:29am
 
With all due respect Macca, if people don't know Jesus is a prophet of Islam, they are thick as pig sh*t.

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Reply #2 - May 28th, 2011 at 10:39am
 
Maqqa wrote on May 28th, 2011 at 10:25am:
The Anglican Bishop of South Sydney, Rob Forsyth, said it was ''complete nonsense'' to say Jesus was a prophet of Islam.



This guy is totally wrong.

Jesus is 'Isa' in Islam and is a Messenger of God, i/e a Prophet.

He always has been.

I don't have that much of an issue here, they aren't lying on the posters, though they are in poor taste.
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Reply #3 - May 28th, 2011 at 11:26am
 
Maqqa wrote on May 28th, 2011 at 10:25am:
The Anglican Bishop of South Sydney, Rob Forsyth, said it was ''complete nonsense'' to say Jesus was a prophet of Islam. ''Jesus was not the prophet of a religion that came into being 600 years later.''

And he wasn't the founder of Christianity either... That 'honour' goes to Paul of Tarsus.
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Reply #4 - May 28th, 2011 at 12:09pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 28th, 2011 at 10:29am:
With all due respect Macca, if people don't know Jesus is a prophet of Islam, they are thick as pig sh*t.




The Old Testament is an interesting read on long flights

It gets down to some old dude could keep his pecker inside his robe and loin cloth

Division occurred and the rest is history

Anglicans, Greek Orthodox, Roman Catholics, Jews and Muslims etc are as much about religion as they are about corrupt individuals trying to exert control

People look for answers to things they don't understand. Some find answers in erupting volcanoes, others in human sacrifices and others still in tea leaves. Those who perpetuate this got abit creative and its a good idea gone bad

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Reply #5 - May 28th, 2011 at 12:17pm
 
I believe that these messages will only cause more problems. While 'Jesus -a prophet of islam' is true and innocuous enough, statements like 'Holy Quaran - the final testament' are very provocative.  if someone alters these signs with graffiti will the muslims go on a rampage claiming insult?
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Reply #6 - May 28th, 2011 at 12:25pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 28th, 2011 at 10:29am:
With all due respect Macca, if people don't know Jesus is a prophet of Islam, they are thick as pig sh*t.




Who did Jesus kill?
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Reply #7 - May 28th, 2011 at 12:51pm
 
"...and the Jew [Messiah] Jesus looked down from the Cross upon 'his' Jewish people and said unto them."
'Wait till me little brother [Prophet] Hitler gets yas!'


"...and the [Messiah] Henry (of France) looked down from dying upon the Crescent Moon and said unto 'his' Moslem people and said unto them."
'My little brother [Prophet] Mohommed did what!? Shocked

Note: Seems all little angry Angry Prophets like Mohommed, Hitler and the likes of Saddam, Osama tend to die lonely miserable deaths in Caves/Bunkers etc. While tall Individual-like Messiahs like Jesus and (soon) Henry die in the open for all to see.

Prophets kill 'their'  people. Messiahs are killed by 'their' people.

"...and the Leader of Israel said unto the people of Islam."
'Now we are one.'  Wink 'So lets get those bloody Italians!' Angry
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Reply #8 - May 28th, 2011 at 1:01pm
 
Did you learn all that from "The Life of Brian"?
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Reply #9 - May 28th, 2011 at 1:06pm
 
I can't wait till someone writes on the side of a bus that Mohammed was a warmongering pedophile.
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Reply #10 - May 28th, 2011 at 1:33pm
 
Its a simple system of Character and the Human condition that is prevalent not just in Religion.

A simpler and modern example was with USA Boxing: Ali & Tyson V Holmes & Berbick (bet you can't tell which was the Messiah/Prophet combination? Wink) - whereas Ali & Tyson got on respectfully, Holmes and Berbick eventually clashed out of the ring because they allowed 'hate' to be their driving force.
After being whipped and retired in a sad state by Holmes and Berbick, Ali whispered in the ear of Tyson "Get em for me!". Tyson went on to annihilate them both. Ironically Berbick never feared Tyson (in his prime) like Holmes and every other boxer, but he expressed fear in the face of Holmes.


What goes around comes around.
So after a Christian Messiah (from France) is crucified for a Christian Prophet (Mohommed) who said to the Moslems "get my people!"
We will see the Final Act of a Moslem Messiah being crucified for his Moslem people in the face of the Jewish Individual who will sacrifice his Jewish people. Both Moslem Mass and Jewish Individual will become 'One'.
Crazy? Well, if you intend to 'outbreed' another people - you have to sacrifice the 'individuality' of your masculinity.
So, who's gonna die upon the Southern Cross for Politics in the face of the American President? Come on, we can't have a woman as PM as the sacrificial lamb - we need a very (tall) individual male to be betrayed by his own Political people. Then we might have someone akin to Rudd and Howard (little lick-spittle Mr peebodies) to play the Prophet character.

...and so on. Lips Sealed
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Reply #11 - May 28th, 2011 at 1:36pm
 
Clue Wink

Sport in America is one of a group of 'backward' industries ...just to complicate things further. So Holmes & Berbick might be the 'negative' in Sport (Boxing), but they are the 'Positive' in the American scheme of things overall.
You just gotta know your Yobbos and Wankers as well as your Gays and Rednecks.
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Reply #12 - May 28th, 2011 at 1:57pm
 
E V E R Y  D A Y  -  MOSLEMS LIE


WHY?

BECAUSE NO GOOD MOSLEM HAS EVEN THE SLIGHTEST RESPECT FOR TRUTH,
...NOR EVEN THE SLIGHTEST UNDERSTANDING OF WHY RESPECT FOR TRUTH IS SO IMPORTANT.





MOSLEMS LIE TO CHRISTIANS

When it suits their purpose [of 'approachment' to Christians] moslems will [deceitfully] claim that they have a frienship with Christians, and claim a spiritual brotherhood with, Christians,

'We're all people of the book and we all come from the same history'.

e.g.
ABC Radio National Religion interview transcript  - "The Undercover Mosque: The return"
".....Stephen Crittenden: .....your program highlights a certain kind of duplicity. When they're caught out, individuals don't miss a beat, they just say they've been taken out of context....
David Henshaw: ......Regent's Park Mosque is officially committed to inter-faith dialogue.....
A GROUP OF CHRISTIANS VISITING THE MOSQUE and the preacher and the Women's Circle treat them kindly and talk about 'We're all people of the book and we all come from the same history'.
JUST AS SOON AS THAT GROUP OF VISITORS LEAVES, THE LANGUAGE CHANGES COMPLETELY. 'CHRISTIANITY IS VILE', the preacher says.....

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/religionreport/stories/2008/2360820.htm#transcript

But, moslems never disclose 'their' truth to Christians,

The moslem 'truth', that [according to ISLAMIC doctrine, and the Koran] moslems regard all Christians, as those who are, cursed by Allah.
....and therefore Christians, can never be accepted as the friends of a devout moslem.

n.b.
"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."

Koran 5.51

n.b.
GOOD MOSLEMS ARE NOT, AND CAN NEVER BE, 'PEOPLE OF THE BOOK'.

Why so ???

Because moslems assert that the Jewish Bible [the 'book'] was corrupted by Jews
Because moslems assert that the New Testament Bible was corrupted by Christians.

Because only the moslem Koran is inerrant - according to moslems.


THE TRUTH IS THAT;
Moslems have embraced a new, 'strange' narrative,
contained within their own 'religious' texts [Koran & Hadith],
.....which has absolutely no connection, to the narrative recorded within the Jewish and Christian scripture.

FOR EXAMPLE;
View this stark comparison between of how Judaism [in the OT], and ISLAM [in the Koran] view unbelievers [i.e. 'strangers']...
"an eye-opening analysis of terrorism in Europe"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1294223444/46#46



In order to subvert the [spiritual] authority of Christianity, moslems will make the claim to Christians, that Jesus was a prophet of ISLAM.

BUT, but, but, ISLAMIC texts reveal a totally moslem 'Jesus', a Jesus who would be unrecognisable to Christains.

IF YOU BELIEVE ISLAM THAT JESUS IS A PROPHET OF ISLAM, YOU MUST ALSO ACCEPT THAT....
...the moslem 'Jesus' did NOT die, [The NT records that Jesus died]
...the moslem 'Jesus' was NOT crucified, [The NT records that Jesus was crucified] [according to ISLAM, another person was crucified, in Jesus place]
...the moslem 'Jesus' was NOT resurrected by Allah, [The NT records that Jesus was resurrected by God]
...the moslem 'Jesus' is NOT a Jewish messiah, [The NT records that Jesus claimed to be the of messiah of his people, John 8:24]
...the moslem 'Jesus' is NOT the 'first-born' Son of God, [The NT records that Jesus claimed that, God was his father, John 8:54]
...the moslem 'Jesus' was whisked away to heaven [without dying] by Allah [ISLAMIC doctrine teaches, that the moslem Jesus will return to Earth at the 'end-time', TO KILL ALL CHRISTIANS, FOR NOT BEING MOSLEMS]
...the moslem 'Jesus', on his return [at the 'end-time'] is a subordinate to al-Mahdi [the ISLAMIC 'end-time' messiah],
...the moslem 'Jesus' will serve ISLAM by being a destroyer of the 'polytheistic' Christian church at the 'end-time', i.e. at the 'end-time' return he is an 'enforcer' of ISLAMIC faith [a JIHADIST!!],
...the moslem 'Jesus' at his return, will kill all Christians who still reject Allah / ISLAM.



PLEASE BE AWARE;
The moslem 'Jesus' presented by ISLAM, is not the New Testament Jesus.
The moslem 'Jesus' presented by ISLAM,  is not the Christian Jesus.
The moslem 'Jesus' presented by ISLAM,  IS A FAKE JESUS.
...designed to 'draw in' weak Christians, into ISLAM's authority.


Read some of these sources, explaining what ISLAM really teaches [to moslems] about Jesus....

"Deceptive God, Incompetent Messiah - What Islam Really Teaches About Allah and Jesus"
http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Wood/deceptive_god.htm

Google;
jesus Qur'an is the Messiah

Google;
jesus koran prophet of islam


Why are moslems doing this ???

Q.
Why are moslems trying to convince Christians that Jesus was a prophet of ISLAM ???

A.
Moslems want to destroy all authority [external to ISLAM], and, to destroy all faith in God.
And moslems are trying to destroy the faith of weak and gullible Christians.

If you are a Christian and you want to bolster your faith, in Jesus, read your Bible.



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #13 - May 28th, 2011 at 1:58pm
 
The Koran states,
The moslem 'Jesus' did not die,
The moslem 'Jesus' was not crucified,

SIGHTED IN THE KORAN...
Koran 4.157
v. 157 - 159

e.g.
The Koran declares that Jesus was not God's son [was not divine]...

"To Him [Allah] is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort?....."
Koran 6.101


In the Koran, Allah curses Christians [...for believing that Jesus had a divine personality]...

".....Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!"
Koran 9.030

"He to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth: no son has He begotten, nor has He a partner in His dominion......"
Koran 25.002

" "Allah has begotten children"? but they are liars! "
Koran 37.152

see also,
Koran 39.004
Koran 72.003



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #14 - May 28th, 2011 at 2:05pm
 
Maqqa wrote on May 28th, 2011 at 10:25am:
http://www.smh.com.au/national/hes-not-the-son-of-god-just-the-support-act-20110...

CHRISTIANS in Sydney will have their core beliefs challenged by provocative advertisements due to appear on billboards and buses in the next month.

The ads, paid for by an Islamic group called MyPeace, will carry slogans such as ''Jesus: a prophet of Islam'', ''Holy Quran: the final testament'' and ''Muhammad: mercy to mankind''.

A phone number urges people to call to receive a free Koran and other Islamic literature.
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The organiser of MyPeace, Diaa Mohamed, said the campaign was intended to educate non-Muslims about Islam. He said Jesus was a prophet of Islam, who was to come before Muhammad. ''The only difference is we say he was a prophet of God, and they say he is God,'' Mr Mohamed said. ''Is it thought-provoking? Yes, it is. We want to raise awareness that Islam believes in Jesus Christ,'' he said.

Mr Mohamed said he hoped the billboards would encourage Christians and Muslims to find common ground. They were not intended to downgrade the significance of Jesus. ''We embrace him and say that he was one of the mightiest prophets of God.''

MyPeace plans to extend the campaign, funded by private donations, to television.

The Anglican Bishop of South Sydney, Rob Forsyth, said it was ''complete nonsense'' to say Jesus was a prophet of Islam. ''Jesus was not the prophet of a religion that came into being 600 years later.''

But the billboard was not offensive, he said. ''They've got a perfect right to say it, and I would defend their right to say it [but] … you couldn't run a Christian billboard in Saudi Arabia.''

The bishop said he would pay for billboards to counter those of MyPeace if he could afford it, and ''maybe the atheists should run their billboards as well''.

A spokesman for the Australian Islamic Mission, Siddiq Buckley, said the campaign would increase awareness of the positive facts of Islam. ''I would be looking at this as a good opportunity to explain what we mean.''




ACtually, JESUS said he was God. thats a might big difference.
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