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Are You Thinking of taking out a home loan
May 21st, 2011 at 2:36pm
 
Thinking of taking out a home loan in the near future? Then it’s a smart move to secure the finance as soon as possible. If you wait for a few more months, you could run the risk of not being able to borrow the money you need.

A new report from Merrill Lynch argues that recent spikes in the cost of key consumer items — including petrol, food and electricity —  means the big four banks will have little choice but to reverse their current stance of relaxing lending standards to attract home loan customers.

After tightening lending criteria at the start of the global financial crisis, banks have been progressively lowering the bar as they fight for mortgage customers. Most of them have done this by increasing the maximum amount they are prepared to lend against the value of a house, or the loan-to-valuation ratio (LVR).


Merrill Lynch rates the ANZ as having the most conservative LVR policy. It will lend 92 per cent of the price of a house to new borrowers, compared with 95 per cent for the National Australia Bank and 97 per cent for Westpac Banking Corporation and the Commonwealth Bank.

At the height of the financial crisis in 2008, all the major banks cut their maximum loan ratios to about 90 per cent.

If the banks do a U-turn and return to the practice of requiring an LVR of 90 per cent, it will spell trouble for two major groups of buyers: investors who are looking to buy properties while house price growth is sluggish and home owners keen to upgrade their living space.

First home buyers already face tremendous difficulties in saving for a home deposit. They will receive a second financial body blow if a more cautious loan assessment regime takes hold.

When you apply for a loan, banks apply an interest rate buffer to your income to ensure you have enough capacity to repay the loan if further interest rate rises occur.

They also calculate a borrower’s average living costs to determine what they can safely lend. But Merrill Lynch research analyst Matthew Davison says household budgets are increasingly coming under pressure because of sharp rises in living costs.

Banks already put a big discount on living costs when assessing disposable income for borrowers. But this assessment process is likely to change as internal bank borrower models are upgraded and new responsible lending laws begin to have an impact on housing lending.

‘‘We believe the strain on the household budget is too big to ignore and banks don’t accurately measure household costs,’’Mr Davison says.

He says these pressures could prompt the banks to update household budget models, thereby tightening mortgage lending standards. Any change to lending models is likely to result in a smaller average mortgage and to slow the pace of lending.

Kristy Sheppard, a spokeswoman for the national mortgage broking group Mortgage Choice, notes that lenders are applying ‘‘more scrutiny over each loan application’’ than previously, partly as a result of the new National Consumer Credit Protection Act.

‘‘In terms of lending criteria, we haven’t seen any tightening up,’’ she says. ‘‘We have seen an LVR of 95 per cent become standard and a number of special offers have been released into the market because lenders are trying to boost their home loan volumes.’’

But Mr Davison says loose lending  standards are unsustainable, particularly in light of the credit protection laws that put the onus on lenders to assess whether borrowers have the capacity to make repayments.   Sad 

He expects borrowing criteria to soon be tightened, with major consequences for the housing market.

‘‘We believe the end result will contribute to a correction in house prices,’’ he says.


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    Get in now before interest rates go up. Get in now before you lose your job. Get in now before house prices fall any further. Get in now so I can sell my investment property. Get in now so realtors can make some money this month.
    Charles Ponzi | Adelaide - May 21, 2011, 8:46AM

    The banks are tightening mortgage loan but for the wrong criteria. Few months ago I had a dispute with a telecommunication company. I refuse to pay my few hundred dollars mobile fee because I believe it over charged me. As a result, I had a shock of my life when a bank told me the loan application was rejected because I have a bad credit rating. My mortgage loan is just about 50% of the value of my house. In order to get the mortgage loan approved, I paid off my questionable outstanding mobile bill unwillingly because I did not want to miss the house settlement date. The credit rating system in Australia can be very unfair to the consumer because if I have to bring the mobile company to court, it would have cause me more money and time. The banks are happily lending 90% to 95% out to people with good credit rating but they have forgotten that The main reason causing US sub-prime crisis was the value of the houses had dropped to lower than the amount of mortgage loan.
    Sammy - May 21, 2011, 7:16AM

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Reply #1 - May 21st, 2011 at 2:43pm
 
But Mr Davison says loose lending  standards are unsustainable, particularly in light of the credit protection laws that put the onus on lenders to assess whether borrowers have the capacity to make repayments.  I have always said responsible lending habits by the borrower, and responsible lending practices by the lender are the way to go.   Smiley                                                                        
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Reply #2 - May 21st, 2011 at 3:43pm
 
90-95% LVR is rather a risky proposition in the current situation, and unless there is a sudden raise in inflation it can be very costly, particularly as the Australian real estate is considered to be one of the highest in the world.
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Reply #3 - May 21st, 2011 at 4:19pm
 
I hope the banks maintain as conservative a lending policy as possible.
The trouble is that in the corporate world - and banks are not immune from this - the sales or product types tend to rise to the surface because they deliver market growth.
Doesn't matter if it's sustainable growth or growth in the community or national interest. Growth tends to bedazzle the eyes & focus of boards and off we go again in a mad hatter's tea party.
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Reply #4 - May 21st, 2011 at 4:25pm
 


Yup, it really is about time, that we reviewed the roles of banking and financial institutions in our society and economy - and reassessed the risks associated with their unbridled antics...

Regulation, transparency and monitoring (and prosecution) must be improved - lest we should allow our entire country to be held to ransom by their foreign creditors...

Right now, we have an illusion of 'competition' in the sector - which is counter-productive to both the national and international stability and security of our nation...

It is unrealistic to expect that any semblance of 'healthy competition' will evolve in the short-medium term...

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Reply #5 - May 21st, 2011 at 4:59pm
 
We borrowed about $500k which was less than 45% of the value of the home.

Why anyone would take out 97% mortgages is totally beyond me.

Total madness.
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Reply #6 - May 21st, 2011 at 7:30pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 21st, 2011 at 4:59pm:
We borrowed about $500k which was less than 45% of the value of the home.

Why anyone would take out 97% mortgages is totally beyond me.

Total madness.


even more madness is why would the banks lend 97% of the total mortgage ??
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Reply #7 - May 21st, 2011 at 7:40pm
 
So true Andrei, cant agree more.
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Reply #8 - May 21st, 2011 at 8:13pm
 
Just returned from ULLADULLA and Jervis Bay for a few days with Family. Looked around a bit and noticed soooo many Houses FOR SALE.  Shocked Maybe these are all "Holiday/Investment" Homes and they can no longer afford to keep them? Huh

I've always shyed away from a Home Loan - I see nothing but misery in association with it although I know there are many people out there making a good life with it as well.
Why waste my quality of life paying an extra $200,000 to a Bank for a $400,000 House (Especially in Sydney Roll Eyes)?

...I'm waiting for a drop in Sale Prices so I can pick up something neat for just $200,000 and need to borrow far less from a Bank (prefer Bendigo). Would like to live 'near' Ulladulla = for if I'm gonna spend my next 25 years working a Pleb/Dead-End JOB, then I might as well do it in my view of an area of quality.
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Reply #9 - May 21st, 2011 at 8:15pm
 
A 400K HOUSE IN SYDNEY????

When was this? The early 90's?
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Reply #10 - May 21st, 2011 at 8:18pm
 
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Reply #11 - May 21st, 2011 at 8:22pm
 
Seriously Jas .. you can't even get a 2 bedroom unit for 400K now in Sydney.

And I am referring to half decent areas .. not the no-go police zones of Boganville.
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Reply #12 - May 21st, 2011 at 8:32pm
 
Personally Lisa - I wouldn't buy a 3 bedroom House for $200,000 ANYWHERE in Sydney.
I live on the fringe just south of Campbelltown (and luckily drive further away from Sydney for work) and even that area has lost the ...plot. I have had enough of Sydney and having lived in Melbourne for 7 years and seen how better a 'City' it is compared to Sydney, I still wouldn't live there either. City life in Australia a real loss of ...TIME.

I'm aiming for Ulladulla or around the South Coast somewhere and inland, my only choice is Berrindale between Jindabyne and Cooma.

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Reply #13 - May 21st, 2011 at 8:36pm
 
200K??? For a house in Sydney??

LMAO! In the 80's perhaps?

If you're looking for an average 3 bedroom home in a half decent average area in Sydney with NO water or district views .. be prepared to cough up a min of a million.
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Reply #14 - May 21st, 2011 at 8:42pm
 
As regards the South Coast .. I'd be careful Jas.

Tip 1: Make sure you have employment sorted for you and the wife before you buy anything.

Tip 2: Get to know the area/s well before putting your head in a 30 yr mortgage noose.

Tip 3: Don't live too far from family/friends. These are your support structures.



Personally speaking .. I would not buy so far south. You're not gonna make as much money out of real estate there in the long term.
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