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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #60 - May 14th, 2011 at 2:42pm
 
Why would Flannery even want an apology from a dummy spitting hate monger like Abbott?
An internationally respected man of high moral standing compared to a self serving dummy spitting career pollie..what a joke   Grin
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Reply #61 - May 14th, 2011 at 3:52pm
 
Flannery is typical of the climate hysterics. makes a thousand predictions, none of which come to pass.

and yet people stil quote him?  Why?  because they NEED TO BELIEVE in disaster.
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #62 - May 14th, 2011 at 3:53pm
 
adelcrow wrote on May 14th, 2011 at 2:42pm:
Why would Flannery even want an apology from a dummy spitting hate monger like Abbott?
An internationally respected man of high moral standing compared to a self serving dummy spitting career pollie..what a joke   Grin


high standing??? he gets every prediction wrong! isnt that the definition of an international JOKE?
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #63 - May 14th, 2011 at 3:58pm
 
Flanery shoudl apolgise to US for his continued predictions which are 100% wrong
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #64 - May 14th, 2011 at 4:01pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on May 14th, 2011 at 3:53pm:
adelcrow wrote on May 14th, 2011 at 2:42pm:
Why would Flannery even want an apology from a dummy spitting hate monger like Abbott?
An internationally respected man of high moral standing compared to a self serving dummy spitting career pollie..what a joke   Grin


high standing??? he gets every prediction wrong! isnt that the definition of an international JOKE?


And by "every prediction" I assume you mean the selective, cherry picked examples provided by the serial distorter Andrew Bolt, right? Your's and Bolt's predilection for for drawing on only the very limited information that confirms your preconceived biases is the real JOKE here.

Still waiting for you to explain exactly WHY you believe that AGW is a lie and how CO2 could possibly be a function of warming and not a cause, you sad JOKE of man.
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So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&
 
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #65 - May 14th, 2011 at 4:07pm
 
astro_surf wrote on May 14th, 2011 at 4:01pm:
longweekend58 wrote on May 14th, 2011 at 3:53pm:
adelcrow wrote on May 14th, 2011 at 2:42pm:
Why would Flannery even want an apology from a dummy spitting hate monger like Abbott?
An internationally respected man of high moral standing compared to a self serving dummy spitting career pollie..what a joke   Grin


high standing??? he gets every prediction wrong! isnt that the definition of an international JOKE?


And by "every prediction" I assume you mean the selective, cherry picked examples provided by the serial distorter Andrew Bolt, right? You's and Bolt's predilection for for drawing on only the very limited information  that confirms your preconceived biases is the real JOKE here.

Still waiting for you to explain exactly WHY you believe that AGW is a lie and how CO2 could possibly be a function of warming and not a cause, you sad JOKE of man.


his many and varied predictions have been already listed and they were all wrong. and then there is al gores predictions of 6m higher sea levels byhmmm lets remember.. yes by next year!!!

as for the CO2 question, ice cores have already shown in many cases that CO2 levels FOLLOWED warming - no preceded it. you are so unsicentific and biased you cannot even concieve of the notion of the 'science' being wrong. you dont understand it at all - you just quote it.  and what is the worlds biggest carbon sink?? OCEANS. and what happens to any body of water that gets warmer???  now remember you high school science. dissolved gases come out of solution. As temperatures get higher more Co2 is emitted from oceans and lakes.  Funnily enough that is exactly what I said.
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #66 - May 14th, 2011 at 4:08pm
 
astro_surf wrote on May 14th, 2011 at 4:01pm:
Still waiting for you to explain exactly WHY you believe that AGW is a lie and how CO2 could possibly be a function of warming and not a cause, you sad JOKE of man.




Then as trees absorb CO2 then the greenies would be or should be all supporting for deforestation.

So. When will the greenies be supporting that?
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #67 - May 14th, 2011 at 4:10pm
 
and the carbon tax is not that at all. it is a CARBON DIOXIDE tax - the worlds most plentiful gas and its most useful since every plant on the planet needs it.
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #68 - May 14th, 2011 at 4:13pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on May 14th, 2011 at 4:10pm:
and the carbon tax is not that at all. it is a CARBON DIOXIDE tax - the worlds most plentiful gas and its most useful since every plant on the planet needs it.



This is true.
I look forward to seeing Bob Brown, Penny Wong, Peter Garret and Tim Flannery driving their bulldozers knocking down trees.

They would if they believed in a Co2 tax.
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #69 - May 14th, 2011 at 4:21pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on May 14th, 2011 at 4:10pm:
and the carbon tax is not that at all. it is a CARBON DIOXIDE tax - the worlds most plentiful gas and its most useful since every plant on the planet needs it.


Another mindless denier talking point being regurgitated by the Useful Idiots that don't actually understand the processes they are talking about. Yes, CO2 is good for plants but a when it warms the planet it is very bad for humans AND many plant species that humans rely on to survive.

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CO2 is Good for Plants: Another Red Herring in the Climate Change Debate

Posted on 1 July 2010 by Mariana Ashley

Guest post by Mariana Ashley

CO2 feeds plants. And so, too, does ignorance and a little bit of politicking feed inane misconceptions. Rep. John Shimkus of Illinois made famous the CO2 as plant food argument during a U.S. House Subcommittee on Energy and Environment hearing in 2009. The basic plant food argument is that since plants need CO2 to grow, more CO2 means, by proxy, more sustained and robust plant growth globally.

A quick look at the science behind this argument demonstrates its inherent weaknesses. In closed, controlled environments, like greenhouses and plant nurseries, an increase in CO2 does indeed spur plant growth. However, the globe is not a controlled environment, and it’s incredible sensitivity to a variety of factors is something that is often taken for granted when such narrow arguments are proffered. A rise in CO2 levels is not the only consequence of climate change, and it is these other effects that have had and will have more abiding adverse effects on plant growth around the world.

While CO2 is an important element that stimulates plant growth, the planet's flora requires a cocktail of elements to maintain its health. Arguably the most important of these elements is water. With the global increase in temperature caused by the various factors affecting our climate's balance, increased evaporation means decreased soil moisture. Another effect of global climate change is erratic precipitation patterns. This causes extreme weather in certain geographic locations only sporadically, with overall, balanced rainfall drastically reduced.

Suppose, however, that CO2 does prime plant growth in the world at large. To what extent will this happen? For one, the increased density of forest vegetation could increase the risk of wildfires, which have reared their ugly heads in California all too often in the past few years, wreaking devastating damage. Presumably the CO2 as plant food enthusiasts offer their argument in an effort to demonstrate the resulting agricultural advantages. But even if "CO2 fertilization" occurs, weeds proliferate in tandem with crops, which would only increase the global cost of agriculture.

We could discuss the scientific finer points of global climate change and the unlimited effects it could have on global plant growth all day. A Climate Denial Crock of the Week video does just that in debunking the CO2 plant food argument. However, at its most basic level, the CO2 plant food argument rests on a simple logical fallacy--the fallacy of exclusion, which focuses on one cause-and-effect (in this case, more CO2 means more plants) to the exclusion of all other cause-and-effect chains.

When CO2 is framed as an element good for plants in order to dismiss the other existing pieces of evidences that suggest the dangers of global climate change, we are left with an idea that only distracts us from the more pressing issues of our planet's increased loss of balance.
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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11th, 2011 at 11:23am:
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #70 - May 14th, 2011 at 4:24pm
 
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Let's reread the comments by Flannery, just to remind the gullible gerties how ridiculous Flannery's comments have been.


Earth to creep: those are not Flannery's comments, they are someone else's interpretation of what Flannery said.
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #71 - May 14th, 2011 at 4:31pm
 
Looks like the simpleton needs to be spoonfed.

OK

I'll make this very simple.

'The plants and trees around us help to balance the gases in our air by using up carbon dioxide and making oxygen'
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #72 - May 14th, 2011 at 4:32pm
 
freediver wrote on May 14th, 2011 at 4:24pm:
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Let's reread the comments by Flannery, just to remind the gullible gerties how ridiculous Flannery's comments have been.


Earth to creep: those are not Flannery's comments, they are someone else's interpretation of what Flannery said.




If you bothered to read the quote you would have seen that Bolt quoted Flannery.

Oh and by the way do you really think that Bolt would have misquoted Flannery.
If you do then you are really desperate to try and deny Flannery's scaremongering.
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #73 - May 14th, 2011 at 4:33pm
 
See how mundane it is when you quote what people actually said creep?

BTW, whose words are they?
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #74 - May 14th, 2011 at 4:34pm
 
I think the problem is the climate change deniers are basing their arguments on basic year 7 science.
They may just find the scientists and economists that are advising the worlds govts and industrial giants are a tad more advanced than that.
It is not surprising that people with limited knowledge on a problem are easily maniputed by an opposition party that knows how to use fear and ignorance to their political advantage.
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