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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #315 - May 18^th, 2011 at 8:29pm

creep wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:17pm:

World temperatures haven't risen at all over the last 10 years but have declined. Global cooling! And that's from the source of the data!
Great news so no global warming and that's the facts.

Lie.

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In the last 30 years there's virtually been no change in the world's sea ice.
Another scam exposed.

Another lie

Oh you can check this from the University of Illinois.

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No increase on the US coast of land forming Atlantic hurricanes for 150 years

The combined frequency, duration & density of all hurricanes, typhoons and cyclones from around the world reached its lowest point in 30 years last year.

And yet another lie

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Notice how the scaremongering alarmists really are floundering when it comes to actual scientific facts.
Notice that the gullible gerties never check reports themselves, never go to the source of the data, instead rely on the scaremongering scammers.
It's quite amusing when the alarmist claims cherry picking by those that aren't fooled by the scam, yet he himself cherry picks. But the items he cherrypicks have been proved to be wrong.
And most interesting is that the gullible gerties campaigning about the scam don't know anything about global warming at all. Pretty much like on this board.

Haha, that's gold. Lord Mockton too! Such rich, rich satire. You HAVE to be taking the piss! Grin

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #316 - May 18^th, 2011 at 8:30pm

astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:22pm:

creep wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:17pm:

Oh no, another leading authority Lord Monckton from Copenhagen debunks the climate change and exposes the scam.

HAHAHJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Grin

You total douchebag, I can't believe you just said that! What is he an authority on? What are his qualifications exactly?

He is as qualified as Al Gore. Most of us are.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery? Reply #317 - May 18^th, 2011 at 8:36pm astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:34am: He wouldn't need to in order to be able to calculate the rate of warming for a X increase in CO2. It really is elementary physics. Can you run it by us quickly, please. Just the elementary bits. Thank you so much.
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #318 - May 18^th, 2011 at 8:36pm

Soren wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:30pm:

astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:22pm:

creep wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:17pm:

Oh no, another leading authority Lord Monckton from Copenhagen debunks the climate change and exposes the scam.

HAHAHJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Grin

You total douchebag, I can't believe you just said that! What is he an authority on? What are his qualifications exactly?

He is as qualified as Al Gore. Most of us are.

He's not, actually, AL Gore majored in oceanography, which is a damned site more than Monckton has ever did.

But, even if that were true, so what? I know I'VE never cited Al Gore as an authority, although his movie WAS a very good representation of the science, unlike Moncktons lies and misrepresentations.

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery? Reply #319 - May 18^th, 2011 at 8:39pm Quick question: which year's climate data is used as the norm aganst which anomalies are identified as anomalies?
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astro_surf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2981	Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery? Reply #320 - May 18^th, 2011 at 8:46pm Soren wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:39pm: Quick question: which year's climate data is used as the norm aganst which anomalies are identified as anomalies? Why? Can you not read?
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #321 - May 18^th, 2011 at 9:00pm

creep wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:17pm:

Oh no, another leading authority Lord Monckton from Copenhagen debunks the climate change and exposes the scam.

World temperatures haven't risen at all over the last 10 years but have declined. Global cooling! And that's from the source of the data!
Great news so no global warming and that's the facts.

In the last 30 years there's virtually been no change in the world's sea ice.
Another scam exposed.
Oh you can check this from the University of Illinois.

No increase on the US coast of land forming Atlantic hurricanes for 150 years

The combined frequency, duration & density of all hurricanes, typhoons and cyclones from around the world reached its lowest point in 30 years last year.

Notice how the scaremongering alarmists really are floundering when it comes to actual scientific facts.
Notice that the gullible gerties never check reports themselves, never go to the source of the data, instead rely on the scaremongering scammers.
It's quite amusing when the alarmist claims cherry picking by those that aren't fooled by the scam, yet he himself cherry picks. But the items he cherrypicks have been proved to be wrong.
And most interesting is that the gullible gerties campaigning about the scam don't know anything about global warming at all. Pretty much like on this board.

All backed up by the person who gets the raw data and the University of Illinois.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery? Reply #322 - May 18^th, 2011 at 9:02pm astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:46pm: Soren wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:39pm: Quick question: which year's climate data is used as the norm aganst which anomalies are identified as anomalies? Why? Can you not read? I can I just don't know where to look for the info.
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astro_surf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2981	Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery? Reply #323 - May 18^th, 2011 at 9:05pm http://www.skepticalscience.com/hurricanes-global-warming-intermediate.htm
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #324 - May 18^th, 2011 at 9:05pm

The gullible gerties claims are all debunked and proved wrong by Professor Muller

The whole global warming ideology rests on a global warming model, and thats it.
And that model is based on various assumptions of which have not been tested and some are not even realistic.
The simplicity of the warmists scaremongering that they do not want you to know for some reason. More Co2 causes more water vapour to rise, but for some reason the warmists claim that cloud cover won't increase.

Even if you believe in the crap of global warming then only need to increase cloud cover by 2% in the next 50 years then bye bye to the global warming situation.

Further, the main spokesperson for the scam, Al Gore, claims that China have every right to increase their Co2 emissions but advocates that the US must reduce their emissions, even though China are emitting 15% more than the US. Gore's reason is because the US are responsible for around 25% of the world's global warming so far whilst China has hardly contriubted any.
Great logic there Al.
Recall the Copenhagen summit, it was proposed that the US would reduce its emissions by 80% over the next 50 years. Sound good.

And here's the kicker, it was proposed to allow China to decrease its emission intensity by 4% for the next 40-50 years!

What the ...

So even with Australia on ZERO emissions, the world's Co2 will still be increasing for the next 50 years!!!!!!

So it is entirely irrelevant what Australia does!
It is entirely irrelevant what the US does!

But fortunately that deal was never agreed to as China refused to allow for inspections to be undertaken.

But ok, lets follow through with the Gillard proposal and impose whatever tax it is and start producing (green) products.
Gillard & Brown now feel good about themselves.
Our exports to China now increase in value, but China arent able to afford these new prices.
So what ever Australia produces under these 'green' products arent going to be bought overseas, why would they, they now cost too much.

the gullible gerties just hate it when facts are brought to the table as it destroys their whole scaremongering argument.

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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #325 - May 18^th, 2011 at 9:05pm

Soren wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 9:02pm:

astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:46pm:

Soren wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:39pm:

Quick question: which year's climate data is used as the norm aganst which anomalies are identified as anomalies?

Why? Can you not read?

I can I just don't know where to look for the info.

It is labelled pretty clearly on the chart. The source is here: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2011/4

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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astro_surf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2981	Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery? Reply #326 - May 18^th, 2011 at 9:08pm creep wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 9:05pm: The gulolible gerties claims are all debunked and proved wrong by Professor Muller the gullible gerties just hate it when facts are brought to the table as it destroys their whole scaremongering argument. You're quite unstable, aren;t you? Muller is a liar.
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #327 - May 18^th, 2011 at 9:10pm

Soren wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:36pm:

astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:34am:

He wouldn't need to in order to be able to calculate the rate of warming for a X increase in CO2. It really is elementary physics.

Can you run it by us quickly, please. Just the elementary bits.

Thank you so much.

LOL You're expecting a lot. He doesn't understand the issue itself and much less likely that of any physics.
Even when confronted with the raw data and facts all it can mutter and splutter is that he doesn't like being proved wrong.

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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #328 - May 18^th, 2011 at 9:57pm

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Flannery made a prediction about when tempratures would fall (in centuries), if all human CO2 emission topped (not methane or water vapor emission). I think it is a very stupid thing to say. He was rattled by Bolt and he came out ith a massive howler.

How was it stupid? How is it different from mainstream climate science?

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So Abbott is exactly right when he says that an Australian carbon tax will not make a scrap of difference to the environment in a 1000 years. He could have said any number between 1 and a million.

Is he exactly right in what he actually says? Remember, he was not giving his own interpretation, he was claiming something on behalf of Flannery. I got more of the quote from hansard:

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We heard from the government’s principal climate change salesman, Professor Flannery, just last Friday that it will not make a difference for a thousand years.

Do you understand that he is making a statement about Flannery, not just about his views on the tax - a statement that is a lie?

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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #329 - May 19^th, 2011 at 1:36am

astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:46pm:

Soren wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:39pm:

Quick question: which year's climate data is used as the norm aganst which anomalies are identified as anomalies?

Why? Can you not read?

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