and labor supporting it, isnt??? why exactly do u think Gillard put up a carbon tax??? PRINCIPLE??? it was demned of her from the Greens in order to be PM. there is nothing more politically motivated that that.

4) That Earth's Ice would start melting rapidly (James Hanson)


theres that pesky prediction of the artic ice disappearing which simply refuses to happen. and the antarctic has actually MORE ice on one side of the continent. bummer that one.

they have been predicting ice-free summers for the past 3 years and since that has never happened how do you claim it is FASTER than predicted?

Polar Ice Sheets Melting Faster Than Predicted

The thick glaciers covering Greenland and Antarctica are melting faster than scientists expected

By Lauren Morello and ClimateWire  | March 9, 2011 | 11

Ice loss from the massive ice sheets covering Greenland and Antarctica is accelerating, according to a new study.

If the trend continues, ice sheets could become the dominant contributor to sea level rise sooner than scientists had predicted, concludes the research, which will be published this month in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.

"The traditional view of the loss of land ice on Earth has been that mountain glaciers and ice caps are the dominant contributors, and ice sheets are following behind," said study co-author Eric Rignot, a glaciologist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and the University of California, Irvine. "In this study, we are showing that ice sheets, mountain glaciers and ice caps are neck-and-neck."

But that could soon change, Rignot said, because the rate at which ice sheets are losing mass is increasing three times faster than the rate of ice loss from mountain glaciers and ice caps.

"I don't think we expected ice sheets to run neck-and-neck with mountain glaciers, which basically sit in a warmer climate, this soon," he said. "At the same time, the mass loss on the ice sheet is not very large compared to how much mass they store."

Rignot was part of a research team that also included scientists from Utrecht University in the Netherlands and the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo.

The researchers based their analysis on a comparison of two different methods to measure ice loss.

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longweekend58 wrote on May 15^th, 2011 at 3:23pm:


Of course it is. You've got me pegged wrong if you think I give two s**ts about Labor and/or think that their motivations are in anyway pure. Once again you prove without a shadow of doubt that this is ALL about politics for you. You deny science because it doesn't fit with you political agenda

these kinds of arguments are why we dont take you CC hysterics seriously. When theres a drought it is CC. when it rains, it is CC. the fact that it mirrors events of 110 years ago is of no consequence.  When it is hot it is CC when it is cold it is CC.

make up your mind. you want to claim ALL EVENTS as proof of your hypothesis. why do you think the public is wearying of your incessant rantings? because you blame everything - good and bad - on CC.  You sound ridiculous.

longweekend58 wrote on May 15^th, 2011 at 4:17pm:


Scientific ones? Maybe the problem here isn't with the arguments as it is with your grasp of the problem at hand? Warming the planet will impact every weather system on the planet, so yes it will make both droughts AND floods worse. That's the sort of thing that happens when you alter a value within any kind of highly dynamic system. You claim to understand chaos theory, maybe you need to go back and revisit it and realise that small changes in chaotic systems can have massive effects?