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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #120 - May 14^th, 2011 at 8:55pm

Abbott even had the nerve to get angry and publicly berrate Bernie Banton for suggesting Hardies should pay the victims of asbestos related illnesses before they died and not drag it out in court.
I wonder if Abbott thinks its still ok to mine asbestos because the Canadians are still doing it..hey they took those mining jobs.
Remember..jobs at all costs and anyone with a science or medical degree is a cold calculating liar according to Abbott.

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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #121 - May 14^th, 2011 at 9:49pm

adelcrow wrote on May 14^th, 2011 at 8:55pm:

Abbott even had the nerve to get angry and publicly berrate Bernie Banton for suggesting Hardies should pay the victims of asbestos related illnesses before they died and not drag it out in court.

"Just because a person is sick doesn't mean he is pure of heart in all things".

A good summation.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53257 At my desk.	Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery? Reply #122 - May 14^th, 2011 at 9:52pm Soren, do you think Abbott lied about Flannery's comments?
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery? Reply #123 - May 14^th, 2011 at 9:54pm Of course he was reffering to Banton having the nerve to take on Hardies who were dragging cases out in court so the person seeking compenstation would die before the case was finished. Good one Tony Abbott..thats when I figured out he was an evil turd.
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery? Reply #124 - May 14^th, 2011 at 10:02pm Time to move on.... THIS COUNTRY WANTS HIGH SPEED RAIL!!!
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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery? Reply #125 - May 14^th, 2011 at 10:04pm Another memorable Abbott moment, was when he proclaimed that homeless people choose to be homeless...
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery? Reply #126 - May 14^th, 2011 at 10:11pm Equitist wrote on May 14^th, 2011 at 10:04pm: Another memorable Abbott moment, was when he proclaimed that homeless people choose to be homeless... ...forget abbott: do you want high speed rail?
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery? Reply #127 - May 14^th, 2011 at 10:31pm freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2011 at 9:52pm: Soren, do you think Abbott lied about Flannery's comments? No.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53257 At my desk.	Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery? Reply #128 - May 15^th, 2011 at 8:24am Soren wrote on May 14^th, 2011 at 10:31pm: freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2011 at 9:52pm: Soren, do you think Abbott lied about Flannery's comments? No. So the diagram didn't help you understand the difference between the two statements?
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #129 - May 15^th, 2011 at 8:31am

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The 'ether concept' can be easily dismissed by the simple fact that this theory demanded the speed of light to vary in different directions despite knowing that it is a constant (in a vaccum). Yet prominent scientists supported it.

Massive logical fallacy. Scientists believed in ether until the evidence led them not to believe in it. There is ZERO evidence that a 40% increase in CO2 wouldn't cause exactly the kind of warming we are currently witnessing. Unless you have some? Feel free to present it if you do!

the point was that the absolute proof that it was wrong existed all during the time ether was beleived. Scientists conveniently believed a theory that was obviosuly wrong because they couldnt comprehend the truth. there is precedence for my reasoning that scientists to day are blindly following a few loud voices - just as they did then.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53257 At my desk.	Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery? Reply #130 - May 15^th, 2011 at 8:45am Longy, being wrong and being a sheep is not the same thing. We all know that science advances by admitting it's mistakes. This is not a rational argument against science or for ignoring the advice of scientists.
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #131 - May 15^th, 2011 at 11:00am

longweekend58 wrote on May 15^th, 2011 at 8:31am:

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The 'ether concept' can be easily dismissed by the simple fact that this theory demanded the speed of light to vary in different directions despite knowing that it is a constant (in a vaccum). Yet prominent scientists supported it.

Massive logical fallacy. Scientists believed in ether until the evidence led them not to believe in it. There is ZERO evidence that a 40% increase in CO2 wouldn't cause exactly the kind of warming we are currently witnessing. Unless you have some? Feel free to present it if you do!

the point was that the absolute proof that it was wrong existed all during the time ether was beleived. Scientists conveniently believed a theory that was obviosuly wrong because they couldnt comprehend the truth. there is precedence for my reasoning that scientists to day are blindly following a few loud voices - just as they did then.

Well, it must be nice for you to have such a vehemently unshakeable belief in the face of all evidence. Kind of like being religious, eh? That must be quite comforting in such tumultuous times.

Unless of course you have the "absolute proof" that AGW is wrong? Because, so far, your 'proof' has consisted entirely of a radical misunderstanding of some fairly basic concepts and I suspect such misunderstanding underpin your entire understanding of the issue. Feel free to present anything you believe constitutes 'proof' and I will be more than happy to explain exactly where you misunderstanding lies.

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #132 - May 15^th, 2011 at 11:02am

Soren wrote on May 14^th, 2011 at 10:31pm:

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2011 at 9:52pm:

Soren, do you think Abbott lied about Flannery's comments?

No.

Yes, well, why let reality stand in the way of a rigidly held ideological belief? After all, that's about the only way one could deny the mountains of evidence that supports AGW. A denier needs to maintain his belief structures intact some way or another!

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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astro_surf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2981	Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery? Reply #133 - May 15^th, 2011 at 11:04am BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 14^th, 2011 at 8:48pm: LONGY DOESN'T UNDERSTAND POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE FEEDBACK MECHANISMS... ATLEAST HE PRETENDS NOT TOO: THAT'S WHAT THE METH IS FOR!! [/quote] Doesn't understand quite a few things by the look of it.
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #134 - May 15^th, 2011 at 11:43am

freediver wrote on May 15^th, 2011 at 8:24am:

Soren wrote on May 14^th, 2011 at 10:31pm:

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2011 at 9:52pm:

Soren, do you think Abbott lied about Flannery's comments?

No.

So the diagram didn't help you understand the difference between the two statements?

This is the useless squabble about 'lying' thread - useless squabble about some diagrams is two doors down.

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