Emma wrote on May 7^th, 2011 at 11:27pm:

Are you the one who gets a bit too pissed at the friends' families weekend bar-b-ques?

Nah Helian  -
- prefer to avoid those sorts of things  -  people get pissed and get pissed off at people - I prefer a life as free of conflict as possible.

Which is probably why I am an unbeliever  --   not a non-believer. 

Dig the diff??

Amadd wrote on May 8^th, 2011 at 12:33am:


What is this obsession with Christianity? No I'm not superstitious. I am however human, and my thought patterns are basically idiomatic. Being human, most of my paradigms do not necessarily have a totally probabilistic basis, and I'll be the first to admit it.  

Christianity itself is very analogous to the human condition in some ways. No Christian theologist would suggest that Christ was actually born on December 25 or that there were three wise men, bearing gifts of gold frankincense and myrrh, or that they followed a star.  Priests study theology, yet when it comes to Christmas, they happily recite the same old story. Force of habit? Tradition?

Human beings are like that. We are full of internal contradictions. Some quite happily go through life unaware of this fact. Many females are experts at ignoring their internal contradictions. (ok, you can hit me now)

Personally, I celebrate the fact of being human. Sometimes, I refer to myself as a Theistic atheist.  Logically, it can't exist. Humanly, it can.

Whatever position you take in life, you'll find such contradictions. The more you attempt to order life, the more disorder creeps in to compensate(?).

Lets take a woman who is a feminist. She defends womens rights. On one hand, one of her sisters is discriminated against because she wears a burqa, so she fights for the right to wear a Burqa. On the other hand, she rejects the fact that Muslim society expects women to wear a burqa.

Then there is the Club which states that the secretary is constitutionally prevented from becoming a member. The secretary then forms her own Club for club secretaries who are preventing from joining their own club. They write a constitution that restricts their membership to secretaries who are prevented from joining their own club.  Sooner or later, they become big enough to employ a secretary. The secretary wants to join the club, however to allow her to join the club, they must re-write their constitution. 

In some cases, where the contradiction is blatant, we call it hypocrisy.

Amadd:

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Which are?

And can you explain the 'close relationship' between atheism and science?

freediver wrote on May 8^th, 2011 at 9:31am:


There is none.

freediver wrote on May 8^th, 2011 at 9:49am:

Why should they be? A child can disbelieve the proposition that god exists without ever having picked up a test tube.

freediver wrote on May 8^th, 2011 at 9:49am:


That's called Scientism. Generally adherents of Scientism are not scientists though, but they could be atheistic. I've met Christians who also follow Scientism. Some Atheists tend to claim that science backs up their position. Personally, I think that the traditional gods are by definition outside the domain of science.