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Re: Professor John Daley slams oppositions carbon fix
Reply #30 - Apr 10^th, 2011 at 9:38am

philperth2010 wrote on Apr 9^th, 2011 at 2:27pm:

So one moment you say he doesn't believe now you say he does believe Cheesy

And your comment and/or Labor's Carbon Tax will make even 1% on carbon emission

You are wrong as usual......I have never claimed Abbott was a believer in climate change.....However I have called him a denier and still hold that belief!!!

[i]And your comment and/or Labor's Carbon Tax will make even 1% on carbon emission[/i]

I have no idea what this means???

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Point 1
Rudd also said Gillard did not believe in the tax yet here we are with the tax

Point 2
Demonising people because they question the validity of the claim is pretty low even for you

Point 3
Australia contributes 1.5% to toal human carbon emissions. Gillard's carbon tax is meant to cut 5% of this 1.5% ie making no difference to total world emissions

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Re: Professor John Daley slams oppositions carbon fix
Reply #31 - Apr 10^th, 2011 at 9:54am

Maqqa the plan is to link our emissions cuts to the cuts made by other countries. At the moment we are playing catchup. We are not leading. We are not going it alone. Under Howard we were a barrier to a global agreement. That has a far more significant impact. You keep pretending our government does not have a policy for responding to global emissions. You keep pretending that our decisions are being made in a global political vacuum. This is simply not true. Criticise the policy if you want, but pretending it does not exist is getting a bit tiresome.

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Re: Professor John Daley slams oppositions carbon fix
Reply #32 - Apr 10^th, 2011 at 10:09am

Maqqa wrote on Apr 10^th, 2011 at 9:38am:

philperth2010 wrote on Apr 9^th, 2011 at 2:27pm:

So one moment you say he doesn't believe now you say he does believe Cheesy

And your comment and/or Labor's Carbon Tax will make even 1% on carbon emission

You are wrong as usual......I have never claimed Abbott was a believer in climate change.....However I have called him a denier and still hold that belief!!!

[i]And your comment and/or Labor's Carbon Tax will make even 1% on carbon emission[/i]

I have no idea what this means???

Roll Eyes

Point 1
Rudd also said Gillard did not believe in the tax yet here we are with the tax

Point 2
Demonising people because they question the validity of the claim is pretty low even for you

Point 3
Australia contributes 1.5% to toal human carbon emissions. Gillard's carbon tax is meant to cut 5% of this 1.5% ie making no difference to total world emissions

Points 1 - 2 - 3 have nothing to do with the debate!!!

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Re: Professor John Daley slams oppositions carbon fix
Reply #33 - May 27^th, 2012 at 10:48am

freediver wrote on Apr 10^th, 2011 at 9:11am:

This is first year economics. There is a strong consensus that carbon pricing is the way to go. Labor has the sensible economic policy on this one, while the coalition has the backdoor socialism response. The coalition has even made the Greens look like economic rationalists in comparison.

The coalition will get all the political mileage out of this that they can. Right up to the point where someone asks them "what would you have us do instead". Then they will fall in a heap.

Abbott is doing everything in his power to push us to an election, yet he is no closer to answering this fundamental question. In fact I'm finding it impossible to discern his position on anthropogenic global warming, a problem other posters don't seem to have, placing him squarely in the denier camp.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1338007125

Labor's market based policy is on the table and legislated, why can't Abbott articulate the specifics of his direct action policy? It's worth reading the rest of this thread as a number of posters have clearly outlined some significant problems with the Liberals direct action plan. With so much at stake and the issues incredibly complex, we shouldn't accept Abbott's strategy of minimizing his exposure on this issue. The media has an important job to do and they are clearly failing us at the moment.

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"What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions."

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Professor John Daley slams oppositions carbon fix Reply #34 - May 29^th, 2012 at 4:12pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 7^th, 2011 at 11:49pm: Quote: .............market based Carbon Pricing ............ hahhahahahha there is NO market NEED for carbon to be bought What is the market driver ? Sprint, lol!! Lol!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Professor John Daley slams oppositions carbon fix
Reply #35 - May 29^th, 2012 at 4:20pm

Maqqa wrote on Apr 10^th, 2011 at 9:30am:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 9^th, 2011 at 6:09pm:

And your comment and/or Labor's Carbon Tax will make even 1% on carbon emission

You cannot get over the fact that Abbott is anti-market forces!!! Cheesy

Even the Greens don't take you serious when you talk economics death [/quote]
You can't get over the fact he is anti-market forces!

Cheesy

Lol, deflect all you want: YOU HAVE NO CLOTHES ON!!! Grin

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Re: Professor John Daley slams oppositions carbon fix
Reply #36 - May 29^th, 2012 at 5:22pm

Please delete wrote on Apr 8^th, 2011 at 8:58am:

Maqqa wrote on Apr 8^th, 2011 at 6:52am:

Equitist wrote on Apr 7^th, 2011 at 11:46pm:

What was the estimated cost of the Libs' non-plan!?

Was it in the order of 300 Billion!?

To drop 5% of 1.5% while we give China and India free rein

That's real smart spending when it's not your money

"Give" China and India free rein? I guess the alternative is to "force" them to do something?

It would be no more difficult than forcing the Liberals to do something.

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Re: Professor John Daley slams oppositions carbon fix
Reply #38 - Aug 4^th, 2012 at 7:59pm

The Liberal position hasn't changed since Howard. They don't have the integrity to tell the truth and say that climate change in their opinion is BS and they intend to do nothing so they just keep saying they will do the opposite to Labor and put forward ideas which are only meant to be sufficient to muddy the waters.

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Re: Professor John Daley slams oppositions carbon fix
Reply #39 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 5:13pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 4:20pm:

Maqqa wrote on Apr 10^th, 2011 at 9:30am:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 9^th, 2011 at 6:09pm:

And your comment and/or Labor's Carbon Tax will make even 1% on carbon emission

You cannot get over the fact that Abbott is anti-market forces!!! Cheesy

Even the Greens don't take you serious when you talk economics death

You can't get over the fact he is anti-market forces!

Cheesy

Lol, deflect all you want: YOU HAVE NO CLOTHES ON!!! Grin

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IT WOULD SEEM MAQQA AGREES HE/SHE/IT HAS NO CLOTHES ON!!

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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is. It wouldn't be there without the tax payer. Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know.... (swaggy) *

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Mark Nicol New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1 Gender:	Re: Professor John Daley slams oppositions carbon fix Reply #40 - Oct 13^th, 2012 at 12:55pm Dear Voters, You may find this Julia political satire, "Goodbye Julia" most useful: Goodbye Julia - on utube
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