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Re: 1000 years plan
Reply #30 - Mar 29^th, 2011 at 2:52pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 29^th, 2011 at 2:42pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2011 at 2:34pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 29^th, 2011 at 2:27pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2011 at 2:12pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 29^th, 2011 at 2:05pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2011 at 1:21pm:

So lets put it this way, if your house is on fire I assume liberal voters would just sit on their lawn & throw balloons full of petrol into the flames.
After all that's basically what your advocating with this drivel.
Baths overflowing, oh well no need to turn the tap off as the bathmat will take a week to dry anyway.
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Not much of an analogy there dssmith.
As one can actually see a house burning.
And your melodramatic linking of throwing petrol on a burning house to the unproven man made climate change theory is irrelevant.

You cant see electricity 99% of the time either, care to stick a fork into one of your power points.
You cant see carbon monoxide either care to run a hose back into your car?
So you cant see it therefore its not real, & you call my argument weak Grin

People have killed themselves intentionally or otherwise with carbon monoxide and electricity.
And plenty of them for a very long time in many different countries.
And both of them are man made too.
But how many have died anywhere due to a man made global warming theory?
Electricity and carbon monoxide is no theory, nor are the dangers associated with them.

So in your world we have to wait until a certain amount of people are dead.
What is that magic number we have to reach?
How many will die due to crop failures with extended droughts?
How many will die when water tables are polluted with salt water making it impossible to grow crops.
How many, a million, 10 million, 1 billion and do these deaths have to be white westerners as well??
If the are just poor Bangladeshies or Sri Lankins will they matter??? I suppose you can label those trying to escape que jumpers/illegals as well should work in well with Tones xenophobic rhetoric.
Do you believe in GOD???
I suppose not as you cant see him either.

How about one then?
Is that enough to justify ruining a nations economy for do you think?
Because electricity and carbon monoxide have killed thousands.
Are we getting rid of electricity or cars any time soon?
Crop failures with extended drought was occurring long before the industrial age.
Your point being?
And where is all this salt water, last time I saw it it wasn't in the fields and despite all the hullabaloo, the oceans haven't risen.

I cant be bothered,
You and many others are happy to roll the dice & bet alot of very educated people are wrong.
Your happy to keep digging finite resources out of the ground because they won't run out in your lifetime so why should you shoulder any responsibility for change.
Its year 7 science, not that hard to understand in fact I'm pretty sure you would have used or at the very least seen the same principal to grow plants in a greenhouse(that's why they call it the greenhouse effect),but alas it might cost you more, so f@#k it.
I hope your right, for your grandchildren's sake.

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Re: 1000 years plan
Reply #31 - Mar 29^th, 2011 at 8:17pm

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You said you BELIEVED in the science and the scientist you love said if 6,910,000,000 then carbon levels might drop in 1000 years

No Maqqa, that is not what Flannery said either. I know Tony Abbott obviously has reading comprehension issues, but you can still think for yourself. Here is another thread you were active in where people tried very patiently to point out the difference between what Flannery said and what Tony Abbott thought he heard.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1301093956

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Re: 1000 years plan
Reply #32 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 9:49am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2011 at 2:52pm:

I hope your right, for your grandchildren's sake.

Forget saving your grandchildren, eco-biddies. According to Flannery, the world won’t be safer until your grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren are on the scene.

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Re: 1000 years plan
Reply #33 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 10:19am

Soren wrote on Mar 30^th, 2011 at 9:49am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2011 at 2:52pm:

I hope your right, for your grandchildren's sake.

Forget saving your grandchildren, eco-biddies. According to Flannery, the world won’t be safer until your grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren are on the scene.

No problems then Soren.
We'll be out and about amongst the stars well before then.

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Re: 1000 years plan
Reply #34 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 10:22am

Soren wrote on Mar 30^th, 2011 at 9:49am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2011 at 2:52pm:

I hope your right, for your grandchildren's sake.

Forget saving your grandchildren, eco-biddies. According to Flannery, the world won’t be safer until your grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren are on the scene.

Temperature increases due to the CO2 already in the atmosphere are locked in, what we are trying to do is keep those increases after that as low as possible.
As I said the other day if you run a bath & forget about it do you run in & turn off the tap or shug your shoulders say the floors already wet & let the water to continue to run even though doing so will eventually wash your whole house away?

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Re: 1000 years plan
Reply #35 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 10:34am

It's not 'who wants to be a millioinaire", you know. "Lock it in, Eddy".

CO2 is not locked in. It gets absorbed by all sorts plants, on land and in water. Fossil fuels are, indeed, nothing but dead plants and animals that absorbed the energy of the sun directly our via their foods. When you burn anything you simple release that stored sun energy. In the final analysis, fossil fueld are simply sources of solar power.

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Re: 1000 years plan
Reply #36 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 10:38am

Soren wrote on Mar 30^th, 2011 at 10:34am:

It's not 'who wants to be a millioinaire", you know. "Lock it in, Eddy".

CO2 is not locked in. It gets absorbed by all sorts plants, on land and in water. Fossil fuels are, indeed, nothing but dead plants and animals that absorbed the energy of the sun directly our via their foods. When you burn anything you simple release that stored sun energy. In the final analysis, fossil fueld are simply sources of solar power.

So ignore 99% of the post and jump on 1 phrase.
Is your real name Andrew or Tony??????

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: 1000 years plan Reply #37 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 10:43am The whole post makes sense only if the premise - that CO2 is locked in - is accepted. It's not. SHould I have still entertained the conclusions drawn from a false premise?
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Re: 1000 years plan
Reply #38 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 11:03am

Soren wrote on Mar 30^th, 2011 at 10:43am:

The whole post makes sense only if the premise - that CO2 is locked in - is accepted. It's not.
SHould I have still entertained the conclusions drawn from a false premise?

A re-post from page 2
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Louise Maher: If we stopped all human activity on the planet tomorrow, what would be Earth’s temperature fall? What would be the drop in the Earth’s temperature?

Andy Pitman: And here’s our problem. It wouldn’t drop. If we could stop emissions tomorrow we’d still have 20 to 30 years of warming ahead of us because of inertia of the system. It’s like a juggernaut going up the freeway. You slam on the breaks, but it takes a long time to stop.

We are already committed to the climate of 2040. What these emissions reductions are about is how much we can reduce warming into the medium term to protect, for instance, the planet for our grandchildren. It’s on those timescales that we’re terrified. On the timescales of 20 to 30 years, I’m sorry but we have already hard-wired the warming into the system.

I can only assume you don't believe any of it.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: 1000 years plan Reply #39 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 11:07am you assume correctly.
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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: 1000 years plan Reply #40 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 11:27am Soren wrote on Mar 30^th, 2011 at 11:07am: you assume correctly. Than we shall agree to disagree as that's all we can do.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: 1000 years plan Reply #41 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 12:12pm Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 30^th, 2011 at 11:27am: Soren wrote on Mar 30^th, 2011 at 11:07am: you assume correctly. Than we shall agree to disagree as that's all we can do. I disagree.
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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: 1000 years plan Reply #42 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 12:36pm
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chicken_lipsforme Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7090 Townsville NQ Gender:	Re: 1000 years plan Reply #43 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 2:47pm Outstanding.
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