skippy. wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 8:09am:


Yes I know skippy, anyone that doesn't swallow the tripe handed out by the left wing green bed wetter brigade is ignorant.
As if the questionable dodgy science theory has gotten any more reliable and verifiable lately.

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 8:28am:






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chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 8:28am:


Human driven Global warming was proven in the 1970's and the first rpedictive calculations carried out by the Nobel Prize winning chemist Arrhenius in 1895.

Anything you say on the matter is not only irrelevant but associated with various mental disorders and psychological afflictions.

AGW DENIALISTS are out of the decision making process now.

You cannot even enter the debate about how this serious problem will be tackled.

Your only choice is to form a union with the Flat Earth Society - I hear that they still run meetings.

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 10:31am:


Computer models based on best guesses is not 'proof'.
It's still a guess.
And the reading of Arctic icy poles is not 'proof'.
The associated fudge factors make it still a theoretical proposition.

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:28am:



PMSL, they rewrite the computer progrems every fortnight to correct some of their errors, but still the glassy eyed dumb ones follow like shorn sheep.

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:52am:


Sorry mummy, gotta go.  Do you really mean to admit ignorance of this fact???

Tony Abbott's scepticism of climate science has emerged again after the Opposition Leader told a Perth audience there was doubt over "whether carbon dioxide is quite the environmental villain that some people make it out to be".

The Sustainable Energy Association of Australia immediately labelled the comment "ludicrous", while the Government said it proved that climate change denial remained at the core of Liberal Party policy.

'Climate change is real'

Mr Abbott made the remark at an invitation-only community forum at the City of Belmont council chambers in response to a question from a schoolboy on what could be done to combat Perth's dwindling water supply.

Mr Abbott said desalination plants were one solution but created the problem of what to do about the resulting carbon emissions "if emissions are quite the problem that some people say they are".

"I don't think we can say that the science is settled here," he said. "There is no doubt that we should do our best to rest lightly on the planet . . . but having said that, whether carbon dioxide is quite the environmental villain that some people make it out to be is not yet proven.

"I don't think we should assume that the highest environmental challenge - let alone the great, moral, social and political challenge of our time - is to reduce our emissions."

Mr Abbott once described climate science as "absolute crap" but after becoming Opposition Leader in December 2009 conceded human activity was warming the globe.

As recently as last Tuesday, Mr Abbott told Melbourne radio host Steve Vizard: "I've long thought that, all things being equal, adding to carbon dioxide concentrations is going to change the climate."

Mr Abbott told the forum the Government's plan to tax carbon would hit Australians struggling under higher fuel, grocery and household bills and spruiked the coalition's direct action policy to plant more trees and invest in efficient energy.

Climate Change Minister Greg Combet said Mr Abbott's comments explained why his climate policy was "nonsense".

"Despite his best efforts to convince people that he really does accept the climate science, these comments make clear he has not changed his view," he said.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/9009559/abbott-still-in-denial-on-...

It is this lack of conviction and leadership by Abbott that is giving the likes of Bolt and Ackerman legitimacy.....Abbott needs to make his position clear and stop giving oxygen to the fringe element who are trying to high jack the issue of climate change.....If it is agreed that climate change is real (and all governments do agree) then we need to decide on the best action to address the problem......The argument about the science has been accepted by all governments accept the far right wing in developed countries and there supporters......These far right extremists pretend to accept the science (for political expediency) however they advocate doing very little about it unless there is money for the polluters......Ask yourself whose best interest these right wing extremists are trying to benefit......and why when there is a boom it is the rich who prosper and the poor who become more numerous???

btw Julie Bishop took her climate survey down, didn't like the support for #carbon tax? - #climate