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Reply #105 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 4:55pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 4:53pm:

Oh for goodness sakes! I merely successfully rebutted the silly accusations of penis envy which have been directed against me and a few other women by a few stupid and ignorant men Longweekend. That's all.

Deal with it and move on. It's not that hard. Just TRY!

Ok .. it's time to see what my gorgeous hubby is cooking for dinner. Bye.

Oh you did? I missed that post. Must have been in the same post where you answered all the questions that have been levelled at you and conveniently ignored.

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Reply #106 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 4:57pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 4:53pm:

Oh for goodness sakes! I merely successfully rebutted the silly accusations of penis envy which have been directed against me and a few other women by a few stupid and ignorant men Longweekend. That's all.

Deal with it and move on. It's not that hard. Just TRY!

Ok .. it's time to see what my gorgeous hubby is cooking for dinner.

you were ranting and raving about income inequality and refused to support your positin with a single example.

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Reply #107 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 5:03pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 4:49pm:

This is where we wait vainly for Lisa and Annie to prove their point about income inequality but of course she needs to talk about penis envy as if to basically prove the point.

this is because they are frustrated femos there LW

they will make grandiose over the top riduculus claims and statements without any facts or substance to back up their ludicrous circular commentary, but they will do it to get your attention

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Reply #108 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 5:10pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 2:52pm:

Templar wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 2:48pm:

I think this is a cultural issue that is changing as the baby boomers disappear from the workforce. Legislation to enforce a certain number of females is just completely counter productive and will lead many to question whether competent female board members have earned their hard fought spots through merit or the law.

I think a more reliable snap shot could be taken by looking at middle management numbers (the up and comers) and see what the ratios are there.

You cannot be THAT ignorant! Middle management consists of Gen X these days (ie my generation).

Who cares about baby boomers?? They're all retiring/have retired. My parents (both baby boomers) retired a LONG time ago .. and they're in their early 60's now playing and taking care of grandchildren. Ya dig?

I've noticed you're still thinking about this Templar. Good. I'm looking forward to hearing from you soon.

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Reply #109 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 5:18pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 2:42pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 1:53pm:

So Lisa, answer me this.
If legislation is enacted which says companies must have say 30% of directors being of the female gender - I wonder how that would work BTW, do they just get appointed without having to be elected - If it happens and we shareholders prefer someone else, an experienced male company director, who is standing for election, don't we get a choice? And is that OK? We have to accept someone to be the custodian of our money that we don't want?

Actually Bogarde .. how about you answer me this:

If EQUITY principled legislation is pushed through to FORCE CHANGE which will enable the breaking of a glass ceiling which hitherto has functioned to keep competent/qualified/appropriately skilled women out .. tell me what do you think about that?

I'm asking for your personal opinion here .. nothing more (at this stage).

Bogarde .. I'm looking forward to hearing your response.

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Reply #110 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 5:22pm

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 1:53pm:

So Lisa, answer me this.
If legislation is enacted which says companies must have say 30% of directors being of the female gender - I wonder how that would work BTW, do they just get appointed without having to be elected - If it happens and we shareholders prefer someone else, an experienced male company director, who is standing for election, don't we get a choice? And is that OK? We have to accept someone to be the custodian of our money that we don't want?

geees buddy your hopeful

oh and try not to use logic as they will never understand you buddy

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HC Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 165	Re: Gender quotas for company boards Reply #111 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 5:31pm angry manhater alert. angry manhater alert!
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Gender quotas for company boards Reply #112 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 5:43pm HC wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 5:31pm: angry manhater alert. angry manhater alert! Huh?? But only a few moments ago I was a "penis envier"? Make up your mind will ya. Then after you've done that .. come back and tell me your answer. Off you go .. you've got some deep thinking homework now.
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Gender quotas for company boards Reply #113 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 5:45pm I am astounded...no, FLABBERGASTED at Lisa of all people berating people for not answering her 'questions'.
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tickfen Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1405 Gender:	Re: Gender quotas for company boards Reply #114 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 5:45pm HC wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 5:31pm: angry manhater alert. angry manhater alert! touche buddy bwaaaaahaaaaaaaaaa
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Gender quotas for company boards Reply #115 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 5:54pm so it is good to watch Lisa totally avoid the facts she was supposed to present. So it is safe to assuem that there is NO gender bias in pay in australia and everything she said was pure rubbish? Seems fair to me!
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Reply #116 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 6:01pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 5:54pm:

so it is good to watch Lisa totally avoid the facts she was supposed to present. So it is safe to assuem that there is NO gender bias in pay in australia and everything she said was pure rubbish? Seems fair to me!

OMFG
you mean yet another femo mytth has been debunked

woooohooooooo

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Reply #117 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 8:10pm

tickfen wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 6:01pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 5:54pm:

so it is good to watch Lisa totally avoid the facts she was supposed to present. So it is safe to assuem that there is NO gender bias in pay in australia and everything she said was pure rubbish? Seems fair to me!

OMFG
you mean yet another femo mytth has been debunked

woooohooooooo

It has been a myth for a long time. some women want the same pay over their lifetimes but want to work less time for it. thats not what i call equality.

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qikvtec Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1846 Queensland	Re: Gender quotas for company boards Reply #118 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 8:14pm I've never understood the pay divide unless the income is annualised over a working career, when typically 5-10 years would be taken out rearing sprogs.
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Reply #119 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 8:40pm

qikvtec wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 8:14pm:

I've never understood the pay divide unless the income is annualised over a working career, when typically 5-10 years would be taken out rearing sprogs.

I dont get why the 'pay divide' has to include time spent not working? It is the same as the average income figure which is the income of ALL people including thos not working or working part-time. These figures are useful but they are invariably mis used, abused and misinterpreted - usually by people trying oto make a point which itself is a lie.

statistics - the best way to lie.

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