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Reply #60 - Feb 28^th, 2011 at 9:34am

mantra wrote on Feb 28^th, 2011 at 8:32am:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 28^th, 2011 at 8:10am:

you seem to forget the political realities - like Greenies often do - that if libs and labor combine, the green senate vote is irrelevant. if both parties support nuclear power then it will happen regardless of that old fart bob brown's luddite opinions.

At present the political realities are that we can't justify nuclear here, but the Coalition signed us up to the GNEP - Global Nuclear Energy Partnership during the APEC meeting in 2007.

Who knows what the ramifications of that will be.

I'd like to see a consensus on how may Australians want NP stations here and with the possibility of 25 on the horizon - we'll have them next door to us.

Obviously Bob Brown won't be able to stop NP if the major parties have already committed us, but I'd like to see them justify the cost and the need when they try to sell it.

this 'next door' nonsense is just that - nonsense. where do u think power stations are now? not out in the outback.

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Reply #61 - Feb 28^th, 2011 at 9:43am

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 28^th, 2011 at 9:34am:

mantra wrote on Feb 28^th, 2011 at 8:32am:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 28^th, 2011 at 8:10am:

you seem to forget the political realities - like Greenies often do - that if libs and labor combine, the green senate vote is irrelevant. if both parties support nuclear power then it will happen regardless of that old fart bob brown's luddite opinions.

At present the political realities are that we can't justify nuclear here, but the Coalition signed us up to the GNEP - Global Nuclear Energy Partnership during the APEC meeting in 2007.

Who knows what the ramifications of that will be.

I'd like to see a consensus on how may Australians want NP stations here and with the possibility of 25 on the horizon - we'll have them next door to us.

Obviously Bob Brown won't be able to stop NP if the major parties have already committed us, but I'd like to see them justify the cost and the need when they try to sell it.

this 'next door' nonsense is just that - nonsense. where do u think power stations are now? not out in the outback.

Generally speaking, they're on the coalfields. Is that where NPP's will be located?

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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: Prime Minister admits to deceit Reply #62 - Feb 28^th, 2011 at 10:15am Quote: this 'next door' nonsense is just that - nonsense. where do u think power stations are now? not out in the outback. Your statement makes no sense. NP stations are mostly built on the coast. Do you think they're built hundreds of kms away from civilisation?
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Reply #63 - Feb 28^th, 2011 at 10:17am

mantra wrote on Feb 28^th, 2011 at 10:15am:

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this 'next door' nonsense is just that - nonsense. where do u think power stations are now? not out in the outback.

Your statement makes no sense. NP stations are mostly built on the coast. Do you think they're built hundreds of kms away from civilisation?

Ooooooooooh thats a racist statement! Are you saying our aboriginal friends are not civilised?

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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: Prime Minister admits to deceit Reply #64 - Feb 28^th, 2011 at 10:23am You're getting mixed up with the Nuclear Waste tip Andrei. It's hardly like NP stations are going to be built in aboriginal settlements - unless the Coalition is returned to government. They will be built in our major cities and towns on the east coast - near the water which the plants need for cooling.
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Reply #65 - Feb 28^th, 2011 at 11:29am

Please delete wrote on Feb 28^th, 2011 at 9:43am:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 28^th, 2011 at 9:34am:

mantra wrote on Feb 28^th, 2011 at 8:32am:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 28^th, 2011 at 8:10am:

you seem to forget the political realities - like Greenies often do - that if libs and labor combine, the green senate vote is irrelevant. if both parties support nuclear power then it will happen regardless of that old fart bob brown's luddite opinions.

At present the political realities are that we can't justify nuclear here, but the Coalition signed us up to the GNEP - Global Nuclear Energy Partnership during the APEC meeting in 2007.

Who knows what the ramifications of that will be.

I'd like to see a consensus on how may Australians want NP stations here and with the possibility of 25 on the horizon - we'll have them next door to us.

Obviously Bob Brown won't be able to stop NP if the major parties have already committed us, but I'd like to see them justify the cost and the need when they try to sell it.

this 'next door' nonsense is just that - nonsense. where do u think power stations are now? not out in the outback.

Generally speaking, they're on the coalfields. Is that where NPP's will be located?

actually they arent - unless that happens to be convenient. most coal power plants have coal shipped by rail to them oftne from great distances.

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Reply #66 - Feb 28^th, 2011 at 11:31am

mantra wrote on Feb 28^th, 2011 at 10:15am:

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this 'next door' nonsense is just that - nonsense. where do u think power stations are now? not out in the outback.

Your statement makes no sense. NP stations are mostly built on the coast. Do you think they're built hundreds of kms away from civilisation?

The point is that you make this same rather lame 'next door' argument while many current power stations are actually IN cities and a lot are pretty close. Nukes will be near cities for reasons that i hope dont need explanation - just like all other power plants.

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Reply #67 - Feb 28^th, 2011 at 11:32am

mantra wrote on Feb 28^th, 2011 at 10:23am:

You're getting mixed up with the Nuclear Waste tip Andrei.

It's hardly like NP stations are going to be built in aboriginal settlements - unless the Coalition is returned to government. They will be built in our major cities and towns on the east coast - near the water which the plants need for cooling.

ever heard of rivers and lakes? ever heard of the many nuclear reactors located in central USA and europe?

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Reply #68 - Feb 28^th, 2011 at 11:57am

"actually they arent - unless that happens to be convenient. most coal power plants have coal shipped by rail to them oftne from great distances. "

I'm surprised.

All of the power station in NSW Victoria and QLD are located in close proximity to the mines - wouldn't that be the majority of power station in Australia?

Or are you including hydro and other smaller facilities?

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Reply #69 - Feb 28^th, 2011 at 7:45pm

adelcrow wrote on Feb 27^th, 2011 at 3:50pm:

What a big yawn..can someone post a list of PM's and Premiers that havent lied at election time.
The good thing about this lie is it be the beginning of this country cutting back carbon emissions and hopefully take us off the top 10 list of the worlds worst polluters.
It may even be the beginning of saving human existence on this planet..but what the heck..dirt cheap electricity is much more important, bugga the grandkids Tongue

YEH, IT WILL GET QUITE A GOING OVER IN THE HISTORY BOOKS: AND WHO'S DECISION MAKING PROCESS WILL IT BE COMPARED TO i WONDER???????????? Cool

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mavisdavis Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1512	Re: Prime Minister admits to deceit Reply #70 - Feb 28^th, 2011 at 7:56pm ____ wrote on Feb 27^th, 2011 at 4:06pm: So Hard Righters are more offended at being lied to by Gillard, than being Lied to By Abbott. Is this correct? Whatever happened to give you the impression that we want to read your lies 24/7 ?
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Prime Minister admits to deceit Reply #71 - Feb 28^th, 2011 at 8:26pm "Nobody in NSW politics, on either side, can figure out why Gillard chose the dying weeks of the state Labor government to announce a great big new tax designed to change the weather." That's it - the Green/Labor view of the world summed up perfectly: a new tax to change the weather.
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Reply #72 - Mar 1^st, 2011 at 5:27pm

adelcrow wrote on Feb 27^th, 2011 at 3:50pm:

What a big yawn..can someone post a list of PM's and Premiers that havent lied at election time.
The good thing about this lie is it be the beginning of this country cutting back carbon emissions and hopefully take us off the top 10 list of the worlds worst polluters.
It may even be the beginning of saving human existence on this planet..but what the heck..dirt cheap electricity is much more important, bugga the grandkids Tongue

This will go down in the history books as GUTS GUTS GUTS!

Tony Abbott has no balls!

The Howard era will be compared directly with Rudd and Gillard and this is why the nobbers hate the NBN and carbon pricing so much!

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