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frenchyjen70

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Julia Gillard caught out in a blatant lie and then
Feb 25^th, 2011 at 6:42am

lies about her own lie by claiming she never said that.
Instread our PM tried to say that the tax was referred to in her pre-election speeches.
Listening to Alan Jones interview Julia Gillard over Gillards lie about carbon tax.
The interview was live, will have to wait until the podcast gets put onto 2gb site.

Hypocrisy and deceit is what Gillard has done.
To justify her lie Gillard diverts this tax as being that Australia would be left behind as every other country is imposing a carbon tax. Further that this tax will help Australian jobs and households.
Then Gillard is trying to divert even more by saying ask these questions to Tony Abbott.

Alan Jones then played Gillards speech: "There will be no carbon tax in the govt I led"
Now Gillards response is saying that using those words is simply playing semantics.
Jones asks Gillard again why she said that and Gillard says Ive answered that with saying that it isnt a carbon tax.
What was that about semantics again Gillard?

Even Wayne Swan said thered be no carbon tax, "Not possible".

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longweekend58

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Re: Julia Gillard caught out in a blatant lie and then
Reply #1 - Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:20am

frenchyjen70 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 6:42am:

lies about her own lie by claiming she never said that.
Instread our PM tried to say that the tax was referred to in her pre-election speeches.
Listening to Alan Jones interview Julia Gillard over Gillards lie about carbon tax.
The interview was live, will have to wait until the podcast gets put onto 2gb site.

Hypocrisy and deceit is what Gillard has done.
To justify her lie Gillard diverts this tax as being that Australia would be left behind as every other country is imposing a carbon tax. Further that this tax will help Australian jobs and households.
Then Gillard is trying to divert even more by saying ask these questions to Tony Abbott.

Alan Jones then played Gillards speech: "There will be no carbon tax in the govt I led"
Now Gillards response is saying that using those words is simply playing semantics.
Jones asks Gillard again why she said that and Gillard says Ive answered that with saying that it isnt a carbon tax.
What was that about semantics again Gillard?

Even Wayne Swan said thered be no carbon tax, "Not possible".

its entertaining watching the labor faithful desperately trying to weasel out of this one. Gillards promise was clear and unequivocal. She lied. Plain and simple. She is possibly the worst PM we have ever had. She is certainly the most deceitful.

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Julia Gillard caught out in a blatant lie and then Reply #2 - Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:26am I also predict that quite soon, Aussie will come in and declare frenchyjen to be one of Mellie's 'socks'.
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viewpoint Gold Member Offline A joke is a very serious thing. [Winston] Posts: 2209 Gender:	Re: Julia Gillard caught out in a blatant lie and then Reply #3 - Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:27am Did you gullible idiots really think I was going to keep my word?
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Re: Julia Gillard caught out in a blatant lie and then
Reply #4 - Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:28am

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:20am:

frenchyjen70 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 6:42am:

lies about her own lie by claiming she never said that.
Instread our PM tried to say that the tax was referred to in her pre-election speeches.
Listening to Alan Jones interview Julia Gillard over Gillards lie about carbon tax.
The interview was live, will have to wait until the podcast gets put onto 2gb site.

Hypocrisy and deceit is what Gillard has done.
To justify her lie Gillard diverts this tax as being that Australia would be left behind as every other country is imposing a carbon tax. Further that this tax will help Australian jobs and households.
Then Gillard is trying to divert even more by saying ask these questions to Tony Abbott.

Alan Jones then played Gillards speech: "There will be no carbon tax in the govt I led"
Now Gillards response is saying that using those words is simply playing semantics.
Jones asks Gillard again why she said that and Gillard says Ive answered that with saying that it isnt a carbon tax.
What was that about semantics again Gillard?

Even Wayne Swan said thered be no carbon tax, "Not possible".

its entertaining watching the labor faithful desperately trying to weasel out of this one. Gillards promise was clear and unequivocal. She lied. Plain and simple. She is possibly the worst PM we have ever had. She is certainly the most deceitful.

of course she did.. and guess what she didnt blink an eye or squirm, when Abbott berrated her on QT..she couldnt have cared less.

she already had it in her notes how to squirm off this hook..she was madly looking for it. no shame as they say.

lies go with the hardleft territory by the looks of the boards.. point the finger at the other fellow.. take their eye off the ball at all costs then lie your way out of it..and then.and then.. sweep it under the carpet as if it never happened.

we have sunk to new depths in this country no doubt about it..

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Reply #5 - Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:31am

Julia Gillard will be judged at the next election for her back flip on a carbon tax.....Tony Abbott and the Coalition can argue against the carbon tax and propose there own policy on climate change.....Labor were wrong to drop the tax before the last election because of the fear campaign run by the Opposition......Now they must wear voter backlash for being weak and failing to stand by there principles.....Labor cannot blame the Coalition from running away from a carbon tax when this is what they in fact did themselves in the face of perceived lack of voter support!!!

Once again we see political parties treating the voter like a fool by not doing what is right and doing what is popular......Julia Gillard and Labor need to do a lot of soul searching before the public will trust them again.....Julia Gillard and Labor should have gone to the next election proposing a carbon tax and not introduced one in this term of government.....they have no mandate and were voted in on a policy of no carbon tax.....Julia Gillard and Labor deserve to be condemned for there lack of honesty and conviction.....It is not good enough!!!

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Julia Gillard caught out in a blatant lie and then Reply #6 - Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:31am We've had PMs who have lied before, but none with such speed, frequency or lack of remorse. This is less about the carbon tax itself, than it is about the willingness of this third-rate PM top lie with such ease. Nothing she says on any topic is worth anything.
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Re: Julia Gillard caught out in a blatant lie and then
Reply #7 - Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:33am

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:31am:

Julia Gillard will be judged at the next election for her back flip on a carbon tax.....Tony Abbott and the Coalition can argue against the carbon tax and propose there own policy on climate change.....Labor were wrong to drop the tax before the last election because of the fear campaign run by the Opposition......Now they must wear voter backlash for being weak and failing to stand by there principles.....Labor cannot blame the Coalition from running away from a carbon tax when this is what they in fact did themselves in the face of perceived lack of voter support!!!

Once again we see political parties treating the voter like a fool by not doing what is right and doing what is popular......Julia Gillard and Labor need to do a lot of soul searching before the public will trust them again.....Julia Gillard and Labor should have gone to the next election proposing a carbon tax and not introduced one in this term of government.....they have no mandate and were voted in on a policy of no carbon tax.....Julia Gillard and Labor deserve to be condemned for there lack of honesty and conviction.....It is not good enough!!!

Angry

When it all boils down to it, integrity is what we are really looking for in leadership. Honesty, integrity and conviction. These three are the components of a leader that we wil follow and support. Gillard has none of them. She lies without hesitation and apparently believes in absolutely nothing besides her own survival. She is an utter disgrace to the office.

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Julia Gillard caught out in a blatant lie and then Reply #8 - Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:39am Quote: We've had PMs who have lied before, but none with such speed, frequency or lack of remorse. LOL never ever,LOL.
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Re: Julia Gillard caught out in a blatant lie and then
Reply #9 - Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:39am

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:31am:

Julia Gillard will be judged at the next election for her back flip on a carbon tax.....Tony Abbott and the Coalition can argue against the carbon tax and propose there own policy on climate change.....Labor were wrong to drop the tax before the last election because of the fear campaign run by the Opposition......Now they must wear voter backlash for being weak and failing to stand by there principles.....Labor cannot blame the Coalition from running away from a carbon tax when this is what they in fact did themselves in the face of perceived lack of voter support!!!

Once again we see political parties treating the voter like a fool by not doing what is right and doing what is popular......Julia Gillard and Labor need to do a lot of soul searching before the public will trust them again.....Julia Gillard and Labor should have gone to the next election proposing a carbon tax and not introduced one in this term of government.....they have no mandate and were voted in on a policy of no carbon tax.....Julia Gillard and Labor deserve to be condemned for there lack of honesty and conviction.....It is not good enough!!!

Unfortunatly all true

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61919 Here Gender:	Re: Julia Gillard caught out in a blatant lie and then Reply #10 - Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:41am longweekend58 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:31am: We've had PMs who have lied before, but none with such speed, frequency or lack of remorse. How easy it is to forget about Mr Howard.
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Re: Julia Gillard caught out in a blatant lie and then
Reply #11 - Feb 25^th, 2011 at 8:07am

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:26am:

I also predict that quite soon, Aussie will come in and declare frenchyjen to be one of Mellie's 'socks'.

Mel would have had at least 3 posts on the topic and provided a responce to most of the comments. This is nothing like her style even if it makes any difference to anyone.

The style is more like Cods and I have no idea if she even wears socks - certainly not suggesting that it is her either.

I have little doubt that frenchyjen is herself if not himself.

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Re: Julia Gillard caught out in a blatant lie and then
Reply #12 - Feb 25^th, 2011 at 8:22am

Dnarever wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 8:07am:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:26am:

I also predict that quite soon, Aussie will come in and declare frenchyjen to be one of Mellie's 'socks'.

Mel would have had at least 3 posts on the topic and provided a responce to most of the comments. This is nothing like her style even if it makes any difference to anyone.

The style is more like Cods and I have no idea if she even wears socks - certainly not suggesting that it is her either.

I have little doubt that frenchyjen is herself if not himself.

you had better not dnare if you have to cast aspersions on peoples integrity and honesty would you mind leaving me out of it.. I have been banned on one topic that I have never been into because of lies..so please dont go there.. if you wish to blacken others names thats up to them to shoot you down..

take it from me thats what I will be doing.

I get very very hostile.about lies that are broadcast about my ID.. the only other ID you have seen me use is codswal..and due to all sorts of problems I created for myself I had to re register.. and thought as I am always called cods that would do.

feel free to insult me like others do because you dont like me.. but dont tell lies..

btw your style is also like a lot from the hardleft.. or havent you noticed..

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Re: Julia Gillard caught out in a blatant lie and then
Reply #13 - Feb 25^th, 2011 at 8:24am

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:26am:

I also predict that quite soon, Aussie will come in and declare frenchyjen to be one of Mellie's 'socks'.

lol just seen this... almost spot on longy.well done.boring but honest.

isnt it a shame we have to travel down this road every time things get sticky for the hardleft.

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Re: Julia Gillard caught out in a blatant lie and then
Reply #14 - Feb 25^th, 2011 at 8:30am

Dnarever wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:41am:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:31am:

We've had PMs who have lied before, but none with such speed, frequency or lack of remorse.

How easy it is to forget about Mr Howard.

forget about what? 12 years of being PM or Gillard who lied thru her teeth to become PM and has lied and every turn since? There is a massive difference between a person who might lie occasionally (like all of us) and soemone who appears to lie at every turn.

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