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Reply #15 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 4:28pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Feb 20th, 2011 at 4:24pm:
Which culture is that mellie?
Or do you mean English culture?


Again, stop ridiculing our rich Australian culture, it's called reverse-discrimination, do you find this acceptable?

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Reply #16 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 4:29pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Feb 20th, 2011 at 4:24pm:
Which culture is that mellie?
Or do you mean English culture?



You obviously are a feathered city dweller who knows little about our great land!!
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Reply #17 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 4:32pm
 
Maybe the reason for anglo Australian kids falling behind other kids in the school system is because their parents expectations of their own kids are very low.
Our universities are filling with kids of Vietnamese, Indian, Chinese and Middle Eastern backgrounds because their parents are willing to push them beyond yr 10 maths, science and english.
Is it any wonder the poorer outer suburbs are filling with anglo aussies while our wealthy cities are filling with aussies of many different races.
They can all learn about Aussie culture in the lower grades in primary school.
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Reply #18 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 4:32pm
 
beware wrote on Feb 20th, 2011 at 4:29pm:
adelcrow wrote on Feb 20th, 2011 at 4:24pm:
Which culture is that mellie?
Or do you mean English culture?



You obviously are a feathered city dweller who knows little about our great land!!


That or one of the Greens/ALP's meterosexual pro-multicults sitting in an air-conditioned Uni guild sipping on a bubble tea with a Chinese language textbook in front of them desperately hoping to compete with an outsourced workforce from china when they graduate.

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Reply #19 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 4:34pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Feb 20th, 2011 at 4:32pm:
Maybe the reason for anglo Australian kids falling behind other kids in the school system is because their parents expectations of their own kids are very low.
Our universities are filling with kids of Vietnamese, Indian, Chinese and Middle Eastern backgrounds because their parents are willing to push them beyond yr 10 maths, science and english.
Is it any wonder the poorer outer suburbs are filling with anglo aussies while our wealthy cities are filling with aussies of many different races.
They can all learn about Aussie culture in the lower grades in primary school.



If our educational standards are so low, tell me, why is it that most of our international students come from China?

And why is it that they form a majority of what's arriving in the way of immigration?

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Reply #20 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 4:38pm
 
ok mellie..what is Australian culture, when did it start, does it include the last 50,000 years or just the last 200?
You want our kids to learn it above all else in schools so I am interested in what is, how long it will take to teach and how difficult it is to learn.
Is it the invasion-1901 British version or is it the truth?
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Reply #21 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 4:40pm
 
Where did I say our education standards are low?
I said anglo aussies expectations of their kids are low compared to that of kids of parents from other cultures/races  Smiley
I know our education standards are amongst the highest in the world..its a shame more anglo aussies dont take advantage of it
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Reply #22 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 4:41pm
 
beware wrote on Feb 20th, 2011 at 4:29pm:
adelcrow wrote on Feb 20th, 2011 at 4:24pm:
Which culture is that mellie?
Or do you mean English culture?



You obviously are a feathered city dweller who knows little about our great land!!



Now we know why Gillard and alliances have continuously blocked country kids from gaining access to youth allowance.

http://search.news.com.au/related/id%3Astory_1226004677018/0/PM-vows-to-block-ru...

When apparently, they would rather they didn't have the same access to university's as city dwelling Kids.

What a smack in the face for rural communities this is.



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Reply #23 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 4:44pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Feb 20th, 2011 at 4:40pm:
Where did I say our education standards are low?
I said anglo aussies expectations of their kids are low compared to that of kids of parents from other cultures/races  Smiley
I know our education standards are amongst the highest in the world..its a shame more anglo aussies dont take advantage of it


Australian parents are well within their rights demanding that their children be taught their own culture first, before being taught other peoples.

Other peoples should be an elective, not compulsory, this or form part of our children's primary school curriculum.

First things first.

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Reply #24 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 4:57pm
 
Australia has many things in common with the rest of the world, though there are several parts of our national identity and culture which are peculiar to us. These are detailed in the sections below. They include emphasis on physical as opposed to mental achievement, the concept of mateship, Australian idiom, language and humour. The embracing of the concept of multiculturalism is also covered. Be aware that any culture and national identity is always changing.

This page looks at topics A to L including areas such as Art & Culture, Australian Identity, Humour, Educational Activities, Australian Values, Language and other general information.

The Second Page looks at topics M to Z including areas such as Mateship, Myths & Stereotypes, Multiculturalism, Social & Cultural Features and Sport.

In addition, there are databases, primary documents, reference material and other general information where these are seen to be relevant.

Information is aimed at undergraduate level. Some information may be useful at a higher level.

http://www.aussieeducator.org.au/tertiary/subjects/history/australian/culture.ht...

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Adelcrow, I hope you find the above link beneficial.

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Reply #25 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 5:12pm
 
And of course, Australian parents are a mixture of many different cultures that they would all consider Australian.

What is Australian culture to a third generation Vietnamese/ Australian woman married to a 4th generation Italian/Australian man.
Are they less Australian than a second generation English/Australian couple because their cultural activities and lives are likely to be very different?
How about a 3rd generation Lebanese/Australian Muslim couple
I put it to you that after the British invasion of this country Australian culture is not that clear cut.
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Reply #26 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 5:27pm
 
I put it to you that after the British invasion of this country Australian culture is not that clear cut.-adelcrow


Australia has it's own unique culture, so we should be teaching and encouraging new arrivals to assimilate and take on ours, not be secular and insular, this and 'dis' or deride our culture the way you have here as though it were something to be ashamed of, worthy of replacing as this is rather un-Australian, and anti-semetic indeed.

Cool We have our own identity, thanks.



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Furthermore, defining a culture is much easier if you form part of it yourself, just for future reference.

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Reply #27 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 5:30pm
 
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We have our own identity, thanks.


Define it.
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Reply #28 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 5:41pm
 
Mod. wrote on Feb 20th, 2011 at 5:30pm:
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We have our own identity, thanks.


Define it.


So, if someone from say China advised they have a culture, would you demand they "prove' it, define it, before you would be satisfied they were entitled to teach their children their culture in their own schools also?

Australia has a well defined culture, and if you need me to define it for you then there's a good chance, you are not Australian yourself, in which case, I suggest you refer to the above link I posted for adelcrow.

This is our country, why should we have to defend our right to teach our children their own culture in their own nations schools?

Unbelievable!  

Who the hell do you think you are?

One of those 2nd generational immigrant un-Australian multicults?

This and think because you were born here yesterday have a right to redefine generations of Australian culture that existed before your parents even thought about getting on the boat?

Dream on sonny-Jim!

You may take the shirt off our backs, but you wont take from us our Australian culture.


Like it or lump it, our culture is here to stay.

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Reply #29 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 6:23pm
 
beware wrote on Feb 20th, 2011 at 4:23pm:
adelcrow wrote on Feb 20th, 2011 at 4:13pm:
Understanding the languages, business practices and cultures of our biggest trading partners will get our kids a lot further than learning how to knock up a meat pie.



Very few children have any interest in these things and the more something is pushed at kids eventually the more they rebel.

This stuff would be better left to universities or mayb e those with an interest in Years 11 & 12.


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unless mum and dad are going to take them to language classes outside of school hours I think you are right its not a good way to go.

we treat kids like "one size fits all" and that kind of gets my goat sorry if your a teacher you must get sick to death of the critics but the first years should be all about the 3rs.. they are lost if they go to high school and they havent got the basics.. and thats where they cause trouble they end up hating school because they dont understand anything..how can they learn Chinese if they cant spell in English..

hey I hope you dont mark my spelling bware??..

I bet a lot of Chinese students fail as well. we just dont hear about them
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