I don't support any whaling woody.

However I also do not support Sea Shepherd who are nothing but a rag-tag set of reprobates who commit dangerous and damnright irresponsible acts on the high seas.


GREENPEACE STATEMENT, DEC 17 2008

Paul Watson has made many public requests for Greenpeace to reveal the location of the whaling fleet or otherwise cooperate with Sea Shepherd in the Southern Ocean when the ships of both organizations have been there simultaneously.

We passionately want to stop whaling, and will do so peacefully. That's why we won't help Sea Shepherd. Greenpeace is committed to non-violence and we'll never, ever, change that; not for anything. If we helped Sea Shepherd to find the whaling fleet we'd be responsible for anything they did having got that information, and history shows that they've used violence in the past, in the most dangerous seas on Earth. For us, non-violence is a non-negotiable, precious principle. Greenpeace will continue to act to defend the whales, but will never attack or endanger the whalers.

We differ with Paul Watson on what constitutes violence. He states that nobody has ever been harmed by a Sea Shepherd action.  But the test of non-violence is the nature of your action, not whether harm results or not.  There are many acts of violence -- for example, holding a gun to someone's head -- which result in no harm.  That doesn't change their nature. We believe that throwing butryic acid at the whalers, dropping cables to foul their props, and threatening to ram them in the freezing waters of the Antarctic constitutes violence because of the potential consequences. The fact that the consequences have not been realized is irrelevant.

In addition to being morally wrong, we believe the use of violence in protection of whales to be a tactical error. If there's one way to harden Japanese public opinion and ensure whaling continues, it's to use violent tactics against their fleet. It's wrong because it puts human lives at risk, and it's wrong because it makes the whalers stronger in Japan.


http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/en/news-and-blogs/news/paul-watson-sea-shepherd-and/

Pretty damning from an organization vehemently anti-whaling -



Paul Watson became active with Greenpeace in 1971 as a member of our second expedition against nuclear weapons testing in Amchitka, and went on to participate in actions against whaling and the killing of harp seals.  He was an influential early member but not, as he sometimes claims, a founder.

He was expelled from the leadership of Greenpeace in 1977 by a vote of 11 to one (only Watson himself voted against it).

To give one example, in 2005/2006, Sea Shepherd attempted to snarl the propeller of the Nisshin Maru with a rope and cable, as reported on their own website:

Two of our three zodiacs were equipped with devices we had made to foul their propeller; basically two buoys connected with steel cable and rope that we would place in front of their ship in hopes that the Maru would run it over, it would pass underneath their hull and into their propeller at the stern of their ship causing their ship to slow down dramatically or be stopped completely. The Maru was running at full speed away from the Farley. Both zodiacs deployed their devices repeatedly. None seemed to work against the goliath Nisshin Maru ship...

Running out of options and having lost both of our propeller fouling devices, all hope seemed lost of slowing the Maru...

Disabling a ship at sea in the Antarctic, regardless of how much one may object to its activities, is not only a callous act of disregard for human life -- it's courting an environmental disaster in one of the most fragile environments in the world.

Such tactics are not only dangerous to the whalers, they are dangerous to the cause of stopping Japanese whaling. Our political analysis is unequivocal: if Japanese whaling is to be stopped, it will be stopped by a domestic decision within the Japanese government to do so.   That's why we have invested heavily in a Greenpeace office in Japan and efforts to speak directly to the Japanese public -- 70 percent of whom are unaware that whaling takes place in the Southern Ocean at all.  A majority of those who are aware of the whaling program, oppose it.   Support for whaling in Japan has been steadily falling for the last decade. Consumption of whale meat is in decline, the cost of the program to taxpayers is being questioned by the business community, and the political costs of the program have created opposition in the Foreign Affairs department in Japan.  All of this progress could be undone by a nationalist backlash.  By making it easy to paint anti-whaling forces as dangerous, piratical terrorists, Sea Shepherd could undermine the forces within Japan which could actually bring whaling to an end.

So Green Peace has lost a chunk of it's support base to Sea Shepherd and now there is sower grapes.


Meanwhile The Japanese are now out to potentially kill protesters by sinking boats and Labor/Hicks wants to look the other way.

____ wrote on Jan 8^th, 2011 at 12:47pm:


Do not let the facts interrupt your rant mate.....It has not been established that the Japanese were at fault for the collision.....the Adi Gil was not sunk by the Japanese it was scuttled by the captain by his own admission......the Sea Shepherd organization is the only group in the Southern ocean who have admitted to trying to sabotage other vessels in the remote area despite the great risk and possible drastic consequences!!!

So the Sea Shepherd organization are now out to potentially kill Japanese whalers by sabotaging ships in the remote Southern Ocean and the Greens wants to look the other way......hypocrites!!!

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2011 at 12:17pm:


Paul Watson's dream is for one of his minions to be speared through the head by a harpoon intended for a whale (but only if they catch it on video), then blame it all on the Japs. That's why he tries to get them between the whalers and the food as often as possible.

Meanwhile, how much was Labor behind the attack on the Sea Shepherd Boat.


Labor welcomed the Japanese Spy Plane into Australian Port ... and then the moment of the attack, Labor sided with the illegal Japanese Whalers.

Go Figure.

Woody, you claim th be a Green, but you can`t answer the most basic question on Greens ` policy.   For four or five days now, you have dodged & slithered about, I`m convinced that you have a very low appreciation of honesty.