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Reply #75 - Apr 28^th, 2011 at 5:59pm

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Of course it's addictive.

And not all addictions are equal. They can range from extremely mild to hardcore. Even the definition of what is actually an "addiction" is open to debate.

Pot is at the lower end of the scale.

Go to a proper addiction specialist (as in a proper doctor - not some git at a so-called "rehab" centre) and declare you're addicted to pot. Odds on he or she won't be suggesting they see you again.

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Reply #77 - Apr 28^th, 2011 at 7:24pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Apr 28^th, 2011 at 5:59pm:

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Of course it's addictive.

And not all addictions are equal. They can range from extremely mild to hardcore. Even the definition of what is actually an "addiction" is open to debate.

Pot is at the lower end of the scale.

Go to a proper addiction specialist (as in a proper doctor - not some git at a so-called "rehab" centre) and declare you're addicted to pot. Odds on he or she won't be suggesting they see you again.

I very much doubt that. A doctor wouldn't turn you away for nicotine addiction either. If you have a significant cannabis addiction, the doctor will probably prescribe anti-depressants or benzodiazepine or both.

I agree that some people are more affected than others.

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Reply #78 - Apr 28^th, 2011 at 7:47pm

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I very much doubt that. A doctor wouldn't turn you away for nicotine addiction either. If you have a significant cannabis addiction, the doctor will probably prescribe anti-depressants or benzodiazepine or both.

I didn't say the doctor would turn you away - and as far as nicotine addiction goes they will definitely want to follow up on your treatment.
All I said it would be a see you once experience.

They wouldn't prescribe you antidepressants because by the time they have kicked in, any withdrawal symptoms would be long gone. They definitely wouldn't prescribe you benzos - which are far more addictive and debilitating than cannabis. At best you'd be handed half a strip of Serapax.

They don't even prescribe benzos for heroin withdrawals or heroin reduction. The dangers outweigh the benefits.

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Reply #79 - Apr 28^th, 2011 at 8:25pm

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They don't even prescribe benzos for heroin withdrawals or heroin reduction. The dangers outweigh the benefits.

Actually, I'll qualify that. They will presribe them after a reasonable period - say after a year of presenting as being stable. But they will mix them up as much as they can, say three weeks on benzos then three weeks on something else. But it all depends on both the patient and the doctor.

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Reply #80 - Apr 28^th, 2011 at 9:03pm

Good to hear all these opinions being expressed. Rarely have I enjoyed a natter so much. No guys, not nutter - natter... although that may also apply.

Addiction can indeed be relative to the drug of choice.... others might say a person had an 'addictive personality' - the actual drug is irrelevant, except in its specific effects upon on the user. Caused by it's toxicity, for example, or its status in law.

Said a mouthful haven't you Muso. Bit sad you can only, in the end, fall back on personal insult and aspersions.!! Dear dear, get a grip. Huh

FYI have had a busy day - so haven't read most of the posts, so my reply is really to you - Loser!. Grin

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Reply #81 - Apr 28^th, 2011 at 10:00pm

I don't think there's any call to abuse Muso.

As far as this topic goes, I find that there's little I agree with him with.

But that doesn't mean he deserves any abuse. This is the net afterall. The bulk of opinion on here is nonsense which is just too easily walked away from to warrant any need to endure even the slightest raising of your blood pressure.

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Reply #82 - Apr 28^th, 2011 at 10:03pm

Oh yeah

s'cuse me while I kiss the sky!!

Muso asked also - sorry , been busy, "could I stop smoking Pot ..etc " ??

Based on the assumptions you have made in your replies, and elucidated in the post to which I reply - 100% certain . As experience has shown, Pot is the smallest of the drug hassles facing our society today.

Give it a rest, and spend all those Billions of $ on Positive action for the good of the common weal.
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Reply #83 - Apr 28^th, 2011 at 10:11pm

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Sorry but he has already called me a loser - a drug dealer - (both incorrect by the way) so the lowest I will go is to reply in kind.

sorry can't be bothered spending too much time on learning how most effectively to use Quotes etc..
So Life Goes on

Why aren't you telling him off? ? Roll Eyes

Does he have a problem? need protecting?

Life goes on.

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Reply #84 - Apr 28^th, 2011 at 10:13pm

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Based on the assumptions you have made in your replies, and elucidated in the post to which I reply - 100% certain . As experience has shown, Pot is the smallest of the drug hassles facing our society today.

I dunno about the smallest of drug hassles. I have a pretty hardcore problem with Vietnamese Pork Rolls - so much so I'm seriously considering spending over $100 on fuel and the best part of an entire day to go and scratch my itch as far as that little high goes.

But in regards to your pot smoking, didn't you say a couple of days ago that you haven't smoked it in years?

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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: Legalisation of pot? Reply #85 - Apr 28^th, 2011 at 10:19pm Personally, I could care less if other people fall in a screaming heap when it comes to their use of illicit drugs. As far as I'm concerned, society is kicking along nicely as it is and there's both an upside and downside to the relaxation of the current drug laws.
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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: Legalisation of pot? Reply #86 - Apr 28^th, 2011 at 10:21pm Now you just have me confused. Seriously, I'm not wanting any drama about this. Just relax.
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Reply #87 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 2:02am

How many movies does it have to take to get the point across?
How many Medics does it take to get the point across?
How many stories, laws and more, does it take?

I like this Song (Smeagol's Song), it reminds me of my best friend who, over the years has fallen from his personal grace and the grace of society ...and now is homeless, lost and dying.

He's after the "precious" as well and look where its leading him.

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Reply #88 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 5:23am

Where are you Life Goes On?

Settle down - I don't have a problem with this topic. or anyone's comments. I don't know why you are confused. Huh

People want to haggle? good - nothing like a good argu... discussion about important issues. I may not appreciate some comments, but that's what this is about no? Communication.

I didn't say a couple of days ago that I hadn't smoked Pot for years. That must have been someone else.

I don't comment as a rule on that - at least not intentionally, ..more about the topic,..and I have related some family history of cancer....(not on this thread)... so tell me
whats got you confused.?
people are free to, and do, assume what they may., right or wrong,
as evidenced by Jasigns recent comment(s).

Like his questions - forget the vids -( except they seem to be his reality-)
How many Movies, Medics, Stories, laws and more, does it take?

Are you serious Jasign?
That's all I wish to say. Roll Eyes

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Reply #89 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 9:27am

Life_goes_on wrote on Apr 28^th, 2011 at 10:00pm:

I don't think there's any call to abuse Muso.

As far as this topic goes, I find that there's little I agree with him with.

But that doesn't mean he deserves any abuse. This is the net afterall. The bulk of opinion on here is nonsense which is just too easily walked away from to warrant any need to endure even the slightest raising of your blood pressure.

I probably deserve it.

Jalane,

I just asked you the question if you could stop for a month. I certainly never called you a dealer, but I might have suggested that you are addicted. Plenty of people are addicted to cigarettes, but maybe it's bad taste to suggest it to an individual. It wasn't me who called you a loser either (scroll back and check).

This is all intended to be a bit of friendly banter. I'm just challenging some of the views put forward, based on real medical research for a change.

So don't take offense. You're right - it has been an interesting natter. I obviously touched a nerve, but I don't think I resorted to any personal insults.

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Are you serious Jasign?
That's all I wish to say. Roll Eyes

Jasignature makes some pretty off-beat comments sometimes. He's a funny guy. One of Shakespeare's jesters. Don't take him the wrong way.

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