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Reply #675 - Sep 29th, 2015 at 10:05pm
 
ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 12:12am:
Yeah we need more dope heads around.

Better THAT than ICE addicts.!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply #676 - Sep 30th, 2015 at 1:50pm
 
Legalise for medical, decriminlise for recreational...I'm now off my evil epilepsy drugs (x3) and onto medical pot.

I was still having seizures after several years of trial and error with meds, one of which was truly evil. Keppra, code named Kepprage for a very good reason...lets just say anger was my main persona on that one, coupled with extreme weight loss and paranoia...all in just 8 weeks from the first pill. Fast tracking off Keppra is no different than those coming off Heroin, not an experience I ever wish to go through again.

Now for medical pot, I have access to high CBD, low THC oil and plant material...guess what, not one seizure since the day I started taking this form of pot three months ago...compare that to an average of 11 seizures per month on pharma meds. For me this is amazing as every seizure my heart stops beating for up to 30 seconds, with a high risk of cardiac arrest...having that weight lifted from my shoulders because of a natural plant vs pharma meds shows how f@*ked up our health and political systems are...geared towards making massive profits over peoples health.

As for recreational pot, there is little general public understanding of how different types of pot, whether hydroponic or outdoor, organic vs chemical fertalised, time of picking flowers, etc affect the stone of said pot.
Is it a heady, hyper alert stone, couch lock or a serious munchy attack strain your looking for? It's all out there but one needs to realise, not all strains are the strain for you. e.g. if you're a naturally paranoid person, the heady high is not for you, better off with couch lock instead.
High THC, low CBD causes a high stone level but with little calming affect, whereas a high THC, high CBD will get one stoned and calm simultaneously.
As a general rule, once THC surpasses 7%, CBD starts to fall away to near 0% once THC hits 15% unless selectively bred. The strain I use is 25% CBD and less than 1% THC.

Get educated, there is a plethora of peer reviewed studies already completed, and I'm not talking US studies funded by the US fed govt that stipulates funding will only be given for negative outcomes.

Those with a pot problem are generally using it to self medicate a more serious, under lying health issue, those who use it for recreation and relaxation are very unlikely to have any issues with pot itself, ever.


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Reply #677 - Oct 1st, 2015 at 12:19am
 
Thank YOU fezz!!!!!!!!!!

At last a response from someone who lives with this, not from those who preach the propaganda they've been taught, but never had to actually deal with.

Respect.!

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Reply #678 - Oct 1st, 2015 at 12:33am
 
I think you correctly point out the hypocricy and sheer greed of Govt, and Drug Companies. Thank you again fezz. Smiley

Major reason Pot is illegal in Oz..?  because those big revenues from harmful and usually unefficacious 'legal' drugs would disappear if  Pot was available to all. Plus.. the crims would miss out on their money too. Can't have that can we ? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Angry Angry Angry

Its all about money. If you think it's illegal for ANY OTHER REASON, you are just a stooge for multi-nats reaping an unethical fortune from the people.

And you should be ashamed that your support for the war on drugs , enables major terrorist factions to have billions of $$$$ to bomb you.  Shocked How fckd is that?  Do you not see the real world.?

I get mad when I think about the reality of our lives, as mindless consumers, so that CEO's and shareholders can reap the profits.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not to mention the crims and terrorists. Angry Angry Angry


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Reply #679 - Oct 1st, 2015 at 12:38am
 
Emma wrote on Sep 29th, 2015 at 10:05pm:
ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 12:12am:
Yeah we need more dope heads around.

Better THAT than ICE addicts.!!!!!!!!!!!


Better neither.
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Reply #680 - Oct 1st, 2015 at 12:51am
 
keep on dreaming about unreality ORDGY... humans have ALWAYS sought release through using substances. Every culture except Inuits have such things.
Don't tell me..!! you are one of those incredibly self-contained people who don't drink, smoke anything, or take analgesics for relief..! OH I know you have GOD.!!
Else go live in the Arctic Circle, where these things just aren't there. Otherwise..??? 
Have some empathy. YOU do not have the answer, and NIL DRUGS is simply impossible.

Get real .

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Reply #681 - Oct 1st, 2015 at 12:55am
 
so Ordgy?  you never take drugs???  Please xplain.!!! Grin
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Reply #682 - Oct 1st, 2015 at 12:59am
 
Emma wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 12:55am:
so Ordgy?  you never take drugs???  Please xplain.!!! Grin


Never came from the wrong side of the tracks I spose.
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Reply #683 - Oct 1st, 2015 at 1:00am
 
Emma wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 12:51am:
keep on dreaming about unreality ORDGY... humans have ALWAYS sought release through using substances. Every culture except Inuits have such things.
Don't tell me..!! you are one of those incredibly self-contained people who don't drink, smoke anything, or take analgesics for relief..! OH I know you have GOD.!!
Else go live in the Arctic Circle, where these things just aren't there. Otherwise..??? 
Have some empathy. YOU do not have the answer, and NIL DRUGS is simply impossible.

Get real .



Sorry for not partaking in your world, my bad.
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Reply #684 - Oct 1st, 2015 at 1:09am
 
Why don't you answer with veracity.?  Explain your position.!

Wrong side ofthe tracks.??  You think only fringe people take drugs.?  Sorry but you are wrong, and please explain why you believe what you do.  You never drink?  Never take analgesics.?  Never drink Coffee, or Tea,? never had aspirin or paracetamol?
Pls reply with something other than platitudes and misdirection.
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Reply #685 - Oct 1st, 2015 at 1:11am
 
Just get it over and done with and resort to name calling and chuck in some abuse (stir gently) that will do the trick.
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Reply #686 - Oct 1st, 2015 at 1:21am
 
Stop trying to evade the matter.  You state what you do, without anything to support it.  Please explain why you think this way.
I don't have to do anything than ask you to support your posts.  Please DO TRY. Otherwise,  keep your views to yourself, because your negativity does nothing helpful.
If you do have a reply ... else .... You are just a stooge. as I said previously,  for the current status quo.
You want the big multi-nat drug coys to profit from the people. You do want crims and terrorists to have almost limitless funds.
 
If you aren't of that persuasion, then please explain WHY.
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Reply #687 - Oct 1st, 2015 at 1:33am
 
Get over yourself you come across as a wannabe intellectual idiot.

If you have drug problems, not my problem. Just because you have issues with drugs doesn't mean everyone else has. Deal with it and move on or get rehabilitated.

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Reply #688 - Oct 1st, 2015 at 1:41am
 
stop evading the question.
You want to tell us all why you have the opinions that you do.?

I can assure you I am not playing games, I am seriously interested to know where you come by your certainty.
I find your comments ignorant and arrogant and nothing but repeating the status quo.  Why do you say what you do?
Your insults mean nothing to me.  I am interested in the mind set of peiople such as yourself.  Usually I hear your type of rhetoric from people who have no real understanding of their fellows.  I just wonder why you feel compelled to support the current public political position.  I think it is wrong, and harmful to our whole society. 

Why do you hold the views you do.?
You say nothing except to denigrate. Why?
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Reply #689 - Oct 1st, 2015 at 12:19pm
 
Emma wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 12:19am:
Thank YOU fezz!!!!!!!!!!

At last a response from someone who lives with this, not from those who preach the propaganda they've been taught, but never had to actually deal with.

Respect.!



Thanks Emma...it's sure easy for people to sit atop their stool and judge with a version of the "moral high ground".

I know from experience that pot isn't all bad, I've been a toker on and off for 20 odd yrs anyway, nothing heavy as I've also kept a 20yr mining career going (D&A policies). I'm not exactly a low achiever either, doing just fine in my chosen field.
Alcohol was far more damaging to my body than pot ever has been, gave up the turps many years ago, best thing I ever did for my health.

The biggest issue facing the medical legalistion side is that big pharma are scared of losing out to a medicine that can be grown easily in the back yard and processed in many ways to suit an individual's particular need. All by the patient themselves, no middle men and no extreme profit markups. Can't forget lost tax revenue for the feds either.
Take for example, high THC oil known to kill certain cancer cells...3 month supply, $2500...compared to chemo, ~$30k for 8 week course.

Death is big business.

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