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It_is_the_Darkness Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4000 in a ReTardis Gender:	Re: Legalisation of pot? Reply #645 - Jun 22^nd, 2013 at 10:46am Oh no! There's something in my pantz! "It's alive! It's ALIVE!" [quote Dr Frankenstein] ...excusem moi' - gotta go choke a monsta to death
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It_is_the_Darkness Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4000 in a ReTardis Gender:	Re: Legalisation of pot? Reply #646 - Jun 22^nd, 2013 at 10:56am runnin around the house naked
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It_is_the_Darkness Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4000 in a ReTardis Gender:	Re: Legalisation of pot? Reply #647 - Jun 22^nd, 2013 at 9:15pm Hey Em! Wanna play Tennis? Backhand Forehand Deuce
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It_is_the_Darkness Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4000 in a ReTardis Gender:	Re: Legalisation of pot? Reply #648 - Jun 22^nd, 2013 at 10:13pm No Reply I think Em wants to spank me for being bad instead
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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Legalisation of pot? Reply #649 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 12:10am ah Jase my friend.. I've not been ignoring you.. JUST NOT BEEN on MUCH LATELY. I'd SMACK YOU.. if you were handy, because you are a naughty man.
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Lionel Edriess Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1932 Gender:	Re: Legalisation of pot? Reply #650 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 9:04pm Best not to get involved is SMACKING. I've heard that such behaviour can be addictive.
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Reply #651 - Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 10:10pm

Lionel Edriess wrote on May 29^th, 2013 at 7:48pm:

One presumes that you have no objection, then, to the irradiated, genetically modified, gas-ripened, artificially enhanced foodstuffs now crowding our supermarket shelves?

I don't. The risk is practically zero.

Irradiated? Health risk to the consumer - zero. It is not radioactive and it doesn't contain radioactive substances (other than Carbon 14 etc)

Genetically modified? Not in Australia, unless you mean certain vegetable oils, and oils don't contain DNA. No DNA, no problem.

Gas ripened? What exactly is the problem with using a bit of ethylene? It's non toxic.

Artificially enhanced? Not even sure what you mean. You mean the old story of chooks on steroids? Doesn't happen these days. If it did, it would be a problem.

Having said that, there are some consumer goods that do concern me. Neonicotinoids, used to control fleas and ticks in dogs are decimating the bee population and wreaking havoc when it comes to reduced pollination (and yield) of commercial crops.

The next time you use a flea or tick treatment for your pet, check the active ingredients. Imidacloprid is the most common neonicotinoid in use.

I'll probably stir up the faithful zealots of the brainless deep greens again, but who cares.

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Reply #652 - Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 10:43pm

not at all Muso.

Thanks for the info. I'll check now.

OK I use two products for my 4-legged friend ....

1 mthly - contains ..Lufenuron .. Milbemycin oxine and
Praziquantel.

1 - if live fleas on dog - Nitenpyram.

I do have lots of bees.... around and about...

hope these don't have other 'lives' which go beyond their intended use.. ??

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Reply #653 - Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 11:51pm

muso wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 10:10pm:

Lionel Edriess wrote on May 29^th, 2013 at 7:48pm:

One presumes that you have no objection, then, to the irradiated, genetically modified, gas-ripened, artificially enhanced foodstuffs now crowding our supermarket shelves?

I don't. The risk is practically zero.

Irradiated? Health risk to the consumer - zero. It is not radioactive and it doesn't contain radioactive substances (other than Carbon 14 etc)

Genetically modified? Not in Australia, unless you mean certain vegetable oils, and oils don't contain DNA. No DNA, no problem.

Gas ripened? What exactly is the problem with using a bit of ethylene? It's non toxic.

Artificially enhanced? Not even sure what you mean. You mean the old story of chooks on steroids? Doesn't happen these days. If it did, it would be a problem.

Having said that, there are some consumer goods that do concern me. Neonicotinoids, used to control fleas and ticks in dogs are decimating the bee population and wreaking havoc when it comes to reduced pollination (and yield) of commercial crops.

The next time you use a flea or tick treatment for your pet, check the active ingredients. Imidacloprid is the most common neonicotinoid in use.

I'll probably stir up the faithful zealots of the brainless deep greens again, but who cares.

The proof of the pudding is the in the eating, as someone once said.

As an elder, I'm sceptical about the 'goodness' of the supermarket foodstuffs available to us when compared to the choices available to the older generations.

I'm all in favour of the benefits of refrigeration, etc - but I mourn the loss of backyard vege patches, fruit trees and the occasional chook yard.

My backyard, as a kid, had plums, oranges, peaches, guavas, apricots, grapefruit, passion-fruit, 4 varieties of grapes on a trellis we could climb and the usual vege patch. On a small town lot.

Should be mandatory to plant a few fruit trees in new developments as far as I'm concerned.

Then again, where can you buy seeds for Grosse Lissie tomatoes these days? Or, for that matter, pick sun-ripened peaches from a tree?

I've nothing against native gardens, but they produce FA edible fruit.

If nothing else, an established varietal fruit tree expanse across a suburb would promote societal integration.

Anyway, no harm done. Yes?

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Reply #654 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 12:00am

Lionel Edriess wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 11:51pm:

muso wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 10:10pm:

Lionel Edriess wrote on May 29^th, 2013 at 7:48pm:

One presumes that you have no objection, then, to the irradiated, genetically modified, gas-ripened, artificially enhanced foodstuffs now crowding our supermarket shelves?

I don't. The risk is practically zero.

Irradiated? Health risk to the consumer - zero. It is not radioactive and it doesn't contain radioactive substances (other than Carbon 14 etc)

Genetically modified? Not in Australia, unless you mean certain vegetable oils, and oils don't contain DNA. No DNA, no problem.

Gas ripened? What exactly is the problem with using a bit of ethylene? It's non toxic.

Artificially enhanced? Not even sure what you mean. You mean the old story of chooks on steroids? Doesn't happen these days. If it did, it would be a problem.

Having said that, there are some consumer goods that do concern me. Neonicotinoids, used to control fleas and ticks in dogs are decimating the bee population and wreaking havoc when it comes to reduced pollination (and yield) of commercial crops.

The next time you use a flea or tick treatment for your pet, check the active ingredients. Imidacloprid is the most common neonicotinoid in use.

I'll probably stir up the faithful zealots of the brainless deep greens again, but who cares.

The proof of the pudding is the in the eating, as someone once said.

As an elder, I'm sceptical about the 'goodness' of the supermarket foodstuffs available to us when compared to the choices available to the older generations.

I'm all in favour of the benefits of refrigeration, etc - but I mourn the loss of backyard vege patches, fruit trees and the occasional chook yard.

My backyard, as a kid, had plums, oranges, peaches, guavas, apricots, grapefruit, passion-fruit, 4 varieties of grapes on a trellis we could climb and the usual vege patch. On a small town lot.

Should be mandatory to plant a few fruit trees in new developments as far as I'm concerned.

Then again, where can you buy seeds for Grosse Lissie tomatoes these days? Or, for that matter, pick sun-ripened peaches from a tree?

I've nothing against native gardens, but they produce FA edible fruit.

If nothing else, an established varietal fruit tree expanse across a suburb would promote societal integration.

Anyway, no harm done. Yes?

Except that the birds, possums & bats get in & wreck all the fruit.
The worms & bugs have a nice time too.

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Reply #655 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 12:07am

absolutely agree...

I remember gardens.. Roll Eyes

lots of people still practice this ..watch Gardening Australia sometimes..
they often cover edible Australian natives... last week in particular... and there are references available too.
I think it is just that as basically European, we cannot recognise the value of native foods.... and are only now coming to realise their potential.

You are incorrect in your assertion that Australian native gardens produce little edible fruits.. and it will not be long before we will be exploiting these to our good.

Native Oz Finger Limes are all the rage in foodies enclaves all over the world..

Hey... don't you know?... Grasshoppers and Ants are starting to wiggle into our food choices.... and other unlikely sources... which have long sustained people from poorer lands.

IT is time we started to more widely utilise these native foods, as well as 'terraforming' our gardens to grow exotics.

Variety is the spice of life..

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Reply #656 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 12:21am

but Bobby
all God's children gotta live. We have to SHARE...

and , from my own experience, having a native garden full of bio-diversity results in the ultimate in bug-proofing... you let nature rule... everything preys on everything else... and... we can get the benefits from this natural bug control.

Hey... I might have lots of 'voluntary' plants ... old tomatoes produce stacks of new plants... for example... and some are eaten by other critters,, but I still get enough that I almost never need buy them... and I don't even have a proper vege garden yet.
Some of the native plants I have do produce edible fruits..
..the thing with them is they are usually small, and not easily recognisable. Takes new knowledge.. for us.

I am working on it tho... thinking always comes first..

..
..then ..waiting till it's right... and then... I DO IT.

NEVER had my own actual food garden before... I've concentrated on rehabilitating and enhancing my land to its natural state.

NOW.. I'm looking at a home garden for food. And yeah.. Euro style for now.

Cress, corn, silverbeet, herbs... got the seeds..want to grow spuds and yeah... lots of stuff.

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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Legalisation of pot? Reply #657 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 12:32am what? no-one jumps in to tell me spuds and corn come from Sth America?? Well done guys.
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Reply #658 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 12:33am

Emma wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 12:21am:

but Bobby
all God's children gotta live. We have to SHARE...

and , from my own experience, having a native garden full of bio-diversity results in the ultimate in bug-proofing... you let nature rule... everything preys on everything else... and... we can get the benefits from this natural bug control.

Hey... I might have lots of 'voluntary' plants ... old tomatoes produce stacks of new plants... for example... and some are eaten by other critters,, but I still get enough that I almost never need buy them... and I don't even have a proper vege garden yet.
Some of the native plants I have do produce edible fruits..
..the thing with them is they are usually small, and not easily recognisable. Takes new knowledge.. for us.

I am working on it tho... thinking always comes first..

..
..then ..waiting till it's right... and then... I DO IT.

NEVER had my own actual food garden before... I've concentrated on rehabilitating and enhancing my land to its natural state.

NOW.. I'm looking at a home garden for food. And yeah.. Euro style for now.

Cress, corn, silverbeet, herbs... got the seeds..want to grow spuds and yeah... lots of stuff.

You're lucky.
I find pests a real problem when I grow my own veges or fruit.

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Reply #659 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 5:11am

Emma wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 10:43pm:

not at all Muso.

Thanks for the info. I'll check now.

OK I use two products for my 4-legged friend ....

1 mthly - contains ..Lufenuron .. Milbemycin oxine and
Praziquantel.

1 - if live fleas on dog - Nitenpyram.

I do have lots of bees.... around and about...

hope these don't have other 'lives' which go beyond their intended use.. ??

Good choices. All very specific.

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